Are the nu 12 foot lizards mean jerks for [something they aren't doing]?

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this is according to tombot!

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Option	Votes
after this faux-bbcode fiasco, you expect them to be able to come with a usable admin system	5
wow, thanks for telling us JW! Maybe the admins should add this to the FAQ!	4
total	2
yes	0

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

i really wish you two would work this out, you guys don't have to end it like this.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

I don't like my options.

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

I'm killfiled so he doesn't see what I say (ha ha right)

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

he can see you at home because i won't let him killfile you on a computer that i also use, especially since he apparently can't be bothered to killfile actually obnoxious people like morbius.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

why are you the only person who cares about this enough to start threads on it?

― blueski, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

JW's vagina, a work in progress:

http://www.townofbethanybeach.com/documents/bandstand/IMG_0001(2)_b.jpg

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

anyway, jon, in fairness tom didn't actually say that at all, he basically just told you to go fuck yourself and create your own message board per you guys' normal thing recently so this is really a v. minor controversy.

tho yeah if seriously no one is getting mods back on sub-boards i'm going to take tom's advice myself. it was bad enough when they came for ilnfl's faq, they will never take our moderator powers permanently.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

I WOULD HAVE FUCKED OFF AND STARTED MY OWN BOARD IF I HAD KNOWN THAT ILX WAS GOING TO BE REPLACED BY A MESSAGEBOARD THAT IS CONSIDERABLY WORSE THAN 1998 STANDARDS AND WOULD FEATURE CSS BY AN ASPIE WITH A BOWLCUT!

Also, "no one told me"

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

lol but you know now, do you see?

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

what kind of mod powers do you need on an ILNFL board anyway? presumably you all know each other on there or at least get on enough for there not to be trolling or whatever. overall admins could handle trivial stuff like setting threads to 'nsfw' or whatever, should that ever actually come up. sorry i don't look at ILNFL so don't know what it's like - but it strikes me that the smaller/speciality boards probably don't actually require much moderation anyway (even Noise? once you factor out the banning thing which isn't really that big a deal now there is killfiling - but we shouldn't let that get in the way of dick-waving i guess).

― blueski, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.80stees.com/images/products/GIJoe_Green_Knowing-Tee.jpg

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

BRING BACK GRAHAM

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

to make you look better!

― blueski, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

pwn

― HI DERE, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

FOOLZ NEED TO BE BANNED THIS IS IMPORTANT

― jhøshea, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

steve, i'm not going to get into it on here. i mean besides just the ha has factor there is a very good reason for people to have mod powers on the sub-boards ie yes trolling fuckbags and/or regular good ol' ilxors who decide to show up and be shitheads to regulars on the subboard because they dislike them. it does happen and it seems like it's kind of a big pain in the site mods asses to be whined at every time some jackoff decides to try to start a beef with someone. we're not talking about banning/deleting/otherwise getting rid of REGULARS to the subboards...

another question actually: is it true that bans are sitewide and there isn't a board-by-board ban in place? if that is true and it's not coming back then there is utterly no point to my above statement.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

Graham could at least code a messageboard, unlike tombot who sucks at CSS!

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

but Jon, since you know now, fucking off is still an option, right?

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

Yea, why don't you fuck off?

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

AN ASPIE WITH A BOWLCUT

I'd think you'd want to be a little more careful about throwing around accusations of psychological instability. But that's just me. Also, w/r/t bowl cuts: step off.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

I would prefer not to bother the nu-mods every time I want to edit or redact a post! I don't really give a shit about banning or yellowcarding.

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

what the hell definition of "bowlcut" do you guys have up in rochester anyway? because you're not using the word correctly.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

I would prefer not to bother the nu-mods every time I want to edit or redact a post!

yeah that is true too! seriously, why have the subboards at all in this instance? putting mods on subboards will (theoretically) reduce the # of requests site mods get anyway, presuming morons actually have figured out at any point that going to the mod board to bitch about "why jon banned me ;_;" is stupid.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

Yea, there's tons of NSFW stuff on threads not flagged NSFW which IMHO is worse than not having NSFW flagging!

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

and/or regular good ol' ilxors who decide to show up and be shitheads to regulars on the subboard because they dislike them.

if this actually happens that much and is bothersome enough on sub-boards then fair dos.

― blueski, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

"up in rochester"

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

ok jon i cannot follow your post

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

so is this really happening? can we get a confirmation from stet or keith? i remember stet saying they'd be implementing the mods later on. this would seriously suck.

― chaki, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

Jon is making a bullshit controversy up because he's not getting HIS mod powers back, ever.

the sub-boards should be getting their moderators back in a matter of time. stet asks me to ask THE SCHEF if she would like to set up another account for mod privs since mods don't see images by default when logged in.

justen is already back on IMM.

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus H christ. There will be -- and are already! -- board-only admins.

The noise thing is still being talked about. HOWEVER: Board-only admins can't edit posts -- as Jon pointed out to me, it's not the greatest idea having semi-trusted folks able to edit HTML. Bans are also sitewide -- if someone's a troll, why let them in at all? With those two things in mind, is there much need for more noise mods beyond Pash?

― .stet., Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

ok i give up, laurel is right: baldies ranting obsessively about css on the internet really do not have place to be insulting anyone else for hair and/or asperger's syndrome. dude i would just gchat you about some of this if i could figure out how to do so.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

― .stet., Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

k thanks.

― chaki, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Bans are also sitewide -- if someone's a troll, why let them in at all?

this is incredibly, incredibly stupid. ffs: because one person's definition of a troll apparently is vastly different from another's around here?

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

just so we're clear let's round up numerically the seeerious reasons why people not being to admin their own boards is a terrible terible thing:

― blueski, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

The noise thing is still being talked about. HOWEVER: Board-only admins can't edit posts -- as Jon pointed out to me, it's not the greatest idea having semi-trusted folks able to edit HTML.

Because the admins we have aren't on the ball WRT moderation?

Jon is making a bullshit controversy up because he's not getting HIS mod powers back, ever.

The controversy is over the LACK OF COMMUNICATION. And why shouldn't I get mine back? Because you're a small dick aspie?

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

because you guys aren't enough to handle all the "trivial" stuff and almost never have been

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

thats kinda not cool at all.

― chaki, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

just so we're clear let's round up numerically the seeerious reasons why people not being to admin their own boards is a terrible terible thing:

1) when all the unused boards filled up with spam posts
2) moderators don't read other boards, don't understand norms
3) can't redact posts until british people have their tea

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

Haha Jon you know the code is free right? You can design your OWN MOTHERFUCKING CSS, make your OWN ADMIN ACCOUNT, IT CAN ALL BE YOURS. The CODE is OPEN SOURCE. TOMCAT runs on OS X. JAVA and MYSQL run on OS X. YOU CAN DO IT!!

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FIX BROKEN / ILLEGAL LINKS IN CASE I POST THEM.

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

semi-trusted are NOT TO BE TRUSTED

love,
"actually obnoxious" guy who doesn't call ppl he doesn't know "liberal racists"

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

1) tomorrow just never comes does it?
2) lol 'norms' - all the boards operate under same basic principles...except maybe...that one...
3) fuck redacting - you made a typo? big dealio 99% of the time. mods like pash fix that stuff willingly all the time anyway

― blueski, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

elmo you can go be on jon's site when he finds hosting and you can both be admins!

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

because you guys aren't enough to handle all the "trivial" stuff and almost never have been

Yea, the countless number of instances where people don't get moderation requests addressed at all because the admins were all "HO HO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON ON THIS THREAD; I'LL JUST SIT BACK AND AND LET SOMEONE ELSE DO IT"

and a week later there's still some libelous post about someone there (or an image with an http password or...)!

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

way to make pash do alot of work he didnt ask for, steve!

― chaki, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

blueski, you're very willing to volunteer other people's time!

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

wait a minute we're the only people here guys

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

Again, if we had been told that ILX was going to be a piece of shit, maybe I would have taken my party and left.

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

because one person's definition of a troll apparently is vastly different from another's around here?
OK. Are there any examples of people who were banned from some boards but are valued members of others?

And why shouldn't I get mine back?
Because your knowledge of the admin system helped you crack it, on the old code?

3) can't redact posts until british people have their tea
We need lots more non-UK mods, yep.

― .stet., Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

proboards.com > ilx

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

Oh right I forgot you had no idea how to edit configs jon. you're about the most pathetic punk bitch since nude spock, you realize this?

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

go to fucking proboards, jon.

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

OK. Are there any examples of people who were banned from some boards but are valued members of others?

the implied threat of banhammer keeps community standards

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

i voted cosmic schefter

― ghost rider, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

the constant morbs banning/unbanning was one of the great subplots of noice ;_;

― jhøshea, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

yeah that's why you're still around right?

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

WE WILL HAVE MORE MODERATORS ON ALL THE BOARDS

... they just need to step a bit more lightly with their banning powers. Or not!

― .stet., Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

And why shouldn't I get mine back?
Because your knowledge of the admin system helped you crack it, on the old code?

its open source?

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

way to make pash do alot of work he didnt ask for, steve!

i'm not MAKING him (no-one is), that's the point ain't it

blueski, you're very willing to volunteer other people's time!

i was an ILE mod and still gonna be an ILM mod for a while longer. it had been v quiet on both mod action wise until nu-ilx tho

if SOME requests get ignored...guess they must be dumb requests. THIS IS ALL IN THE ORIGINAL FAQ PEOPLE.

― blueski, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

Oh right I forgot you had no idea how to edit configs jon. you're about the most pathetic punk bitch since nude spock, you realize this?

Did you ever get tomcat running?

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

i don't know which is more childish, the whining, the name calling, or the techspeak pissing match but i find it all hilarious and somewhat sympathy-evoking at the same time so please don't stop.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

JW if we make other mods for sub-boards but none of them are you, what will you do?

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

the implied threat of banhammer keeps community standards
Yeh ... so giving board-only admins an even bigger fucking hammer should help with that, no?

― .stet., Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

JW if we make other mods for sub-boards but none of them are you, what will you do?
be glad i didn't donate?

libcrypt do you have a nice how-to for getting this up and running on OS X? I tried once and I think I gave up around configuring sql.

TOMBOT on Monday, February 26, 2007 12:12 PM (1 week ago)
;_; Maybe the real admins can add it to the FAQ for you!

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://freespace.virgin.net/ae.williams/laurel%20hardy.jpg
l-r jon, tom in better days

― ghost rider, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

i hope jons going to be ok.

i know you can pull through this jon!

― chimera, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

i don't know which is more childish, the whining, the name calling, or the techspeak pissing match

― jhøshea, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Carlb-sockpuppet-01.jpg/200px-Carlb-sockpuppet-01.jpg

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

if jon goes to proboards...then im going too.

― chimera, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

jw will probably go to BCO

― chaki, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

Williamsboard more likely

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

lets join him there. will you come too chaki?

― chimera, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

hstencil = bco ha ha

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

i'm going to termbo, fuck you guys.

― ian, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to my blog ;_;

― JW, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

BAN DARRAMOUS

― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

thats the spirit jon! you see! its not so bad!

we will come too! maybe a bit later

― chimera, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

nah im chillin. too lazy.

― chaki, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

I'm shutting down all dissent on this issue, in a Britishes way.

(Really: there will be mods. Lots of them. Their powers will be a bit different. They most likely won't be Jon. If not being able to ban solely from a board is a massive deal, start a thread on modreq.)

― stet, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

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