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Looks kind of old school.

I rather like it. How long till we start actually seeing them?

― Ed, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 07:10 (eighteen years ago)

We now appear to be beyond the beard as an anti-counterfeiting measure.

― Ed, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 07:12 (eighteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/business_enl_1162225010/img/1.jpg

― Ed, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 07:14 (eighteen years ago)

LOL BRITISHER MONEY IS HUEG

― marmotwolof, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 07:19 (eighteen years ago)

American bills have been getting more colorful over the years. It used to be all green and grey,and we used to have small busts set very far from the borders. Now we have rainbow washes and bulging presidents.

When I first saw the colorful bills (about 10-15 years ago) I said, "OMG, it's third-world money!"

NOT THAT YOU ARE THIRD-WORLD, BRITAIN-PLACES--XOXOXOXO!!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 07:33 (eighteen years ago)

Compare and contrast

Today
http://www.hubbo.com/archives/U.S.%2050%20dollar%20bill.jpg

vs 1997
http://www.the-privateer.com/coins/50-new.jpg

Clearly we are becoming a Socialist, Rainbow Coalition States of America.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 07:42 (eighteen years ago)

The division of labour in pin manufacturing

Great, now we get actual money that grinds your face under the jackboot of capitalism.

― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 07:47 (eighteen years ago)

I vaguely caught something on Today about this. The Mail say it shouldn't be Adam Smith on the note because hardly any of their readers know who he is and want Princess Diana instead (Though to be scrupulously fair they also suggested Spike Milligan which struck me as a much better idea).

― Matt, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 08:18 (eighteen years ago)

Nice Eurion display in the top right.

― ledge, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:20 (eighteen years ago)

but they have the opportunity to find out! Possessing money is educational!

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:21 (eighteen years ago)

Acutally, crap Eurion display compared to the old one:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e6/EURion20GBP.JPG

― ledge, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:22 (eighteen years ago)

This is ugly as fuck, but then again so is the old one so I suppose we're not missing much.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:47 (eighteen years ago)

you've just half written the new Maestro ad, Matt.

This is ugly as fuck

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― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:50 (eighteen years ago)

So ugly it is illegal.

― Ed, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:51 (eighteen years ago)

What happened to the 'promise to pay the bearer' bol?

― Mark G, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:51 (eighteen years ago)

it's on the queen side

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

I like the bit about pins even though I also agree with noodle.

― Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:54 (eighteen years ago)

who was the first Chief Cashier you remember? Mine was J B Page.

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:56 (eighteen years ago)

I like Edward Elgar better than Adam Smith, so bollocks to this.

LOL @ the mail wanting princess di on the 20 note.

― Pashmina, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:58 (eighteen years ago)

That's on the other side

― Forest Pines, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:02 (eighteen years ago)

Bah xpost!

Never mind the Mail, the Daily Express probably thinks the fact Diana wasn't considered is further evidence MI6 and the 12ft lizards assassinated her.

― Forest Pines, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:03 (eighteen years ago)

Wait. WTF with the pin manufacturing?

― G00blar, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

It was one of the industries that he famously studied.

― Forest Pines, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:19 (eighteen years ago)

2 good reasons why Diana is bad idea

- to get on the back of the note you should have done something important

- s/be royal one side, commoner t'other

Mail's argument not logically rigorous anyway coz £50 note has even more obscure Sir John Houblon (first governor of Bank of England)

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:20 (eighteen years ago)

future ppl for banknotes:

Thomas Malthus
John Maynard Keynes
Grace Darling
Edith Clavell
E M Forster
Benjamin Britten
Edmund Halley

be good PR exercise for Bank of England to democratise the person-choosing process with ppl voting on their website.

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:25 (eighteen years ago)

i give it 5 years before Jade Goody appears on the fiver

― blueski, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:31 (eighteen years ago)

- Morrissey
- Tommy Cooper
- George Best (when I mentioned to a colleague that Adam Smith was on the note, he thought I said Alan Smith)

― The Wayward Johnny B, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

It is more purple. I like it. Now if only they would do something about the ugly orange tenners.

But because it has An Scot on it, does that mean people will mistake it for Scottish currency and refuse to take it?

I got a Jersey 50p coin yesterday! Is that legal tender?

― Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

is there more or less danger of people knowing that adam smith was scottish or that the founder of the bank of england was scottish?

― RJG, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:44 (eighteen years ago)

I got a Jersey 50p coin yesterday! Is that legal tender?

"use in vending machine" is answer to such ambiguities!

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:48 (eighteen years ago)

I recently discovered that Llantrisant (where the Royal Mint is) is referred to locally as 'the hole with the mint'.

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

George Best is on a northern Irish Fiver.

― Ed, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:27 (eighteen years ago)

I am keeping it in my "odd coins" collection.

― Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:28 (eighteen years ago)

I have a lot of odd coins. Romanian bani are the oddest. They are so light. Lord knows what metal they are made of. Given that 1 leu = 20p and there are 100 bani to the leu, it is hardly surprising.

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:34 (eighteen years ago)

So has anyone got one yet?

― Mark C, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:48 (eighteen years ago)

I'm all for moving to plastic banknotes tbh.

― The Wayward Johnny B, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:48 (eighteen years ago)

why on earth?

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:49 (eighteen years ago)

Boring ans: Jersey coins are legal tender.

― Mark G, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:50 (eighteen years ago)

Not outside Jersey they are not.

― Ed, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:51 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, still. I'm not going to spend it coz it is cool looking.

― Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:51 (eighteen years ago)

Legal tender is a funny term anyway - credit cards, cheques, large amounts of coinage etc are not legal tender.

― ledge, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 11:53 (eighteen years ago)

When I first saw the colorful bills (about 10-15 years ago) I said, "OMG, it's third-world money!"

Whaaat? Surely single colour printing the true sign of a sign of pov nation. Also, the quality of paper dollars are (were? It's been a couple of years since I held one in my hand) printed on is rotten.

― Madchen, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

Not outside Jersey they are not.

Ed on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:51 AM (1 hour ago)

Yeah, they are.

― Mark G, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

I am going to end up trying to spend my precious Jersey 50p just to prove one of you right or wrong, aren't I?

― Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

Just 'cause you can spend it doesn't mean it's legal tender!

― ledge, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

When I first saw the colorful bills (about 10-15 years ago) I said, "OMG, it's third-world money!"

I'm kinda guessing Jesse is confusing the appearance of third world money with third world *stamps*, which are not only usu colourful but also big for a reason - the preponderence of philatelists willing to pay good dollar for stamps means producing colourful stamps can be a real revenue earner for the country (in the case of Kiribati, Nauru ect ect sometimes the *main* revenue earner, IIRC).

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

Legal tender means they have a legal obligation to accept it. There is no legal obligation to accept credit card payment, or cheques, or (in England) Scottish banknotes or Jersey 50ps.

― ledge, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

or greater than 20p in copper coins, Ledge!

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

There is no legal obligation to accept credit card payment, or cheques, or (in England) Scottish banknotes

Are you sure about that?

― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

Why do they keep copper coins? They are so useless. And 5p, too. These things just end up in my giant jar of change for cashing in when I get really poor.

― Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, turns out Scottish banknotes are not even legal tender in Scotland!

― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

English banknotes aren't legal tender in Scotland either!!

― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

No wonder we're careful with our money!

― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

What *IS* legal tender in Scotland? Groats?

― Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

Coins!!!

― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

Same with England actually - there are no legal tender banknotes!

― ledge, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

Plays murder wi' yer poackets, I'm tellin' ye

― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

Why do they keep copper coins? They are so useless. And 5p, too. These things just end up in my giant jar of change for cashing in when I get really poor.

I keep a charity tin, same principle, different beneficiary.

getting rid of them is inflationary, coz all retail- and wholesalers would round up.

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

I keep a charity tin, same principle, different beneficiary.

Um, no. When I am really skit, I = poor, therefore I am charidee!

― Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

Fuck giving money to charity, grasping bastards (I work for one)

― Tom D., Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

no, when you really poor, you start selling stuff. Or would you starve to death for the sake of a guitar?

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

Yes. If it were a Jazzmaster.

― Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

During that time when my dad decided that he was a genius and didn't have to work, my dad sold my Rickenbacher 12-string to pay the bills or something stupid. I'd rather starve than lose a guitar again. :-(

― Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

The Jazzmaster wouldn't starve for you!

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

When I was a kid, my grandparents would save their loose change all year and then give it to my sister and me on Boxing Day. Counting it was more fun than spending it back then. Ah, the innocence of times past.

― Madchen, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

I used to clean copper coins using Cif (then called Jif) when I was a kid. It made them all shiny again, like they look when they're new, which was nice.

― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

I recently discovered that Llantrisant (where the Royal Mint is) is referred to locally as 'the hole with the mint'.

this brilliantness needs repeating.

metro said emmeline (sp?) pankhurst nearrowly beat dead di in some poll or other, which i thought was pretty cool.

i like the new 20 quidder but i wholeheartedly second the "switch to plastic notes" motion - if only for washing machine ruination avoidance.

― CharlieNo4, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

i noticed i had a penny from 1971 earlier.

― blueski, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

And surely they'd be harder to fake? (plastic notes, as opposed to pennies from 1971)

― The Wayward Johnny B, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

Environmental apocalypse, but.

― Madchen, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, the fabric is much harder to fake, as it has very special content and threads that you can only get at one place, or something like that. Apparently it's much harder to fake the paper than the printing - hence why those fake-detecting pens work, they're actually testing the paper.

― Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

Northern Ireland had some plastic banknotes a few years ago but I haven't seen any lately. Wonder if they all died unpleasant deaths, or people didn't like them, or if everyone just has one as an unusual souvenir that they're not going to spend?

They survive being washed in a pocket quite well until you iron the pocket, at which point you possibly have neither banknote nor pocket.

― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

What is this "ironing" of which you speak?

― Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

i'm not paying attention to britishers money until they put lemmy on the million pound note at which time i will renounce america and move to london.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1330/idiocracymoneywu4.jpg

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

New US bills may have more color, but it's not elegantly used. It just looks like dye that ran in the wash.
French bills are beautiful. They look like they were designed by Joseph Cornell.

― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

French bills? You means Euros? Are you sure?

― Mark C, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe it's the old currency I'm thinking of. That statement should be on the "this dates me" thread.

― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

Euros are weird, they have all these buildings on them that aren't real buildings.

Euro coins rock tho. If I was in the Eurozone I would so want to collect a full set of designs.

― Grandpont Genie, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 09:45 (eighteen years ago)

The only time I've visited the Eurozone, I remember my friend W getting rather excited at getting an obscure coin from one of the obscure tropical Eurozone territories in his change.

― Forest Pines, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

i like the new 20 quidder but i wholeheartedly second the "switch to plastic notes" motion - if only for washing machine ruination avoidance.

Charlieeeee! You'll be pleased to know that I now deliberately leave Aussie notes in my pockets when washing my 'pants', just 'cos. Like that.
Plus it really brings out the colours.

― Huey in Melbourne, Friday, 16 March 2007 02:41 (eighteen years ago)

has anyone actually held one of these new ones yet? this week i've had nothing but tenners out of cash machines...

― CarsmileSteve, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:30 (eighteen years ago)

Euro coins rock tho. If I was in the Eurozone I would so want to collect a full set of designs

This is true but also consider the wide range of 50p pieces in the UK - they are splendid also.

― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:37 (eighteen years ago)

"has anyone actually held one of these new ones yet?"

yeah. it looked lovely actually.

― Frogman Henry, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:40 (eighteen years ago)

i have totally lost track of the images on the backs of squids and 50ps. What do they all mean?

what is that arch, on the pound, all about?

― Grandpont Genie, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:41 (eighteen years ago)

four years pass...

there is a new fifty pound note, though seemingly no useful pictures of it available online

http://www.britishnotes.co.uk/news_and_info/news/50quid_1413190c.jpg

(sidenote, so seldom have i encountered any kind of fifty pound note, the one time someone gave me one when i was working in retail i said we couldn't accept it, not knowing what it was)

― mr. vertical (schlump), Friday, 30 September 2011 11:30 (fourteen years ago)

i like the kinda 'cop duo'/detective series vibe

― mr. vertical (schlump), Friday, 30 September 2011 11:30 (fourteen years ago)

L-R, good cop, bad cop

― mr. vertical (schlump), Friday, 30 September 2011 11:31 (fourteen years ago)

i used to have a £50 note that i kept in my wallet for about 6 months. had adam smith on it if i recall.

― you've got male (jim in glasgow), Friday, 30 September 2011 11:42 (fourteen years ago)

dunno if it's still the case, but the old fifty quid notes were printed on such good paper that the ink never totally dried on them. you cld freak ppl out by rubbing their fifty on a pieces of blank paper and leaving an inky smear from the note - actually a sign that it wasn't a forgery!

― Ward Fowler, Friday, 30 September 2011 11:50 (fourteen years ago)

after saturday they will all have matt smith on them

― mark s, Friday, 30 September 2011 11:55 (fourteen years ago)

xp that used to wrok with twenties as well. Although I just tried rubbing the Queen's head on a piece of paper and none of her blue rise came off, so possibly it doesn't work any more.

― PoMo with a shotgun (snoball), Friday, 30 September 2011 12:12 (fourteen years ago)

i work for a charity and last week someone sent us £5000 a large proportion of it in £50 notes. they sent this btw, via royal mail, in a brown envelope, 2nd class. insanity!

― Crackle Box, Friday, 30 September 2011 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

wasn't anonymous either and the person has a direct debit and regularly sends us cheques. accounts were like "wtf, can we take this?!?!"

― Crackle Box, Friday, 30 September 2011 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/KFgvR.jpg

looks a bit crap

― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 30 September 2011 18:06 (fourteen years ago)

eleven years pass...

Really interesting graph.

the fall,
and fall,
and fall of the british pound pic.twitter.com/NekWdLJwVj
— ian bremmer (@ianbremmer) October 15, 2022

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