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― RJG, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

Do you think Trident should be replaced?
Yes
49.78%
No
44.65%
Don't know
5.56%
3433 Votes Cast
Results are indicative and may not reflect public opinion

I think that caveat should be on ILX polls.

When is the Commons vote on this? I thought Tony might get a big kick in the teeth but it seems there aren't that many "rebels".

― onimo, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

it's going to be depressingly predictable; the tory vote will prop him up anyway.

fuckers. fuckers. fuckers.

― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

there are a few higher profile "rebels" being talked about (apparently there may be as many as 60, though) but, unfortunately, there are also "conservatives"

ming is for but wants to postpone the vote until 2014. labour say "but it takes so long to build them!"

think there's a "debate", today

― RJG, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/start_quote_rb.gif Tony Blair is doing Gordon Brown a big favour by staging the vote on Trident at this time http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/end_quote_rb.gif

BBC's Nick Assinder

― RJG, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

I don't agree. It's not like Brown can play the "inherited from the previous govt" card with his own party's policies. There were alway going to be dissenters on this no matter who was in charge and they will still be dissenters once (if!) Brown takes over.

The vote is at 7pm or thereabouts.

― onimo, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

will the tories try to play the "inherited from the previous govt" card, after it getting through (probably) as a result of them?

they did something similar w/ iraq but I suppose that was pre-cameron and cameron's saying he's always supported renewal

― RJG, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

meant to say once (if!) the tories are back in power

― RJG, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

409-161.

some fucking rebellion, that.

jesus wept. i genuinely don't have the words. actually, no, i have one. it's "fuckers".

― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, that's a steamroller of a result. that's just ... a juggernaut. i at least hoped there might be SOME semblance of backbone among some of those cunts. surely they can't all believe that something so desperately WRONG is a good thing?

i hope the careerists sleep well tonight.

fuckers.

― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

This computer is called Trident. My other two are called SS20 and Polaris.

― Keith, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

£20 billion down the fckng drain

― Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

MPs get a bone-on at the mere mention of military hardware, innit?

― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

what?

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

what?

― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

http://sparky.thehold.net/pix/dobber.jpg

― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

We need an SDI (Semen Defense Initiative)

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

that's blair's cock. out of frame to the left: sundry careerist MP fucks who've just finished massaging it to a climax. out of frame to the right: the great british (esp scottish, although this is no time for narrow nationalism) public being jizzed on yet again.

god damn. fuckers!

― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

britain must think it's pretty important

― RJG, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

Well it has big bombs.

― onimo, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

I like big bombs and I cannot lie

― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

shouldn't they give Trident a proper test before they replace it? I mean it costs a fortune and have we ever seen if it works? Couldn't we try it out on Birmingham?

― byebyepride, Thursday, 15 March 2007 00:23 (eighteen years ago)

Or at least kick off the ones we've got in grand style... Like a fireworks display.

Aberdeen, Wales and so on...

― Keith, Thursday, 15 March 2007 00:25 (eighteen years ago)

What's the scrap value on a nucular missile anyway?

― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 15 March 2007 00:26 (eighteen years ago)

Hold on. eBay!

― Noodle Vague, Thursday, 15 March 2007 00:27 (eighteen years ago)

It can't be much. Let's see what firing one at Anglesey will do.

― Keith, Thursday, 15 March 2007 00:27 (eighteen years ago)

The government needed Conservative support to push the measure through.

Several hundred demonstrators were gathered outside Parliament, and cheered when they heard the scale of the rebellion.

SNP leader Alex Salmond said he believed most Scottish MPs, from all parties, had opposed the plans - and he thought the vote would damage Labour's chances in the forthcoming Scottish elections.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 00:43 (eighteen years ago)

Fifteen Scottish Labour MPs rebelled against the government in a crucial vote on Trident in the Commons.

MPs at Westminster backed government plans to renew the nuclear weapons system, by 409 votes to 161.

However, Prime Minister Tony Blair needed the support of the Tories as 87 Labour MPs voted against ministers.

All six SNP MPs and 12 Scottish Lib Dems also voted against the motion, meaning that the majority of Scottish MPs rejected Trident's replacement.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 00:48 (eighteen years ago)

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