Does anyone really think that this faux BBCode was a good idea?

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I am a mouthbreather40
I think that I've seen "Illegal link" more than actual links. 30


Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

favourite aspects of nu-ilx:

1 logging in every five minutes
2 no xposts
3 not knowing who everyone is via the email addy/login name/comedy name thing -- also the lack of comedy email addresses
4) lack of html
5) linking being fucked

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

wow, been such a long time since someone did a bitch poll thread about this

blueski, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

6) enrique letting the sunshine in

blueski, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

7) All the previously locked threads being magically unlocked.

Mark G, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

enrique otm

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

rly? ha. hunting time.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

8) Fun banned.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

that was an xpost i did there.

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

Linking being fucked = people unable to read the Formatting Help & proofread what they're posting

Can an admin add "someone needs a Happy Ending" to the poll k thx

David R., Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

i don't want to read those shitty Guardian articles being linked to anyway!

blueski, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

9) complaining. just loads of it. but no bummerz threads.

jessie monster, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

10) Srsly I'm not sure why people carn't read the formatting help thang.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

proofreading?

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

it was easier on old-ilx

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

BBCode >>>>>>>> people being "helpful" and killing ILX again.

The Wayward Johnny B, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

Well yes this is true. But NuLXor has no sharp corners that people can hurt themselves on.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

i've tried to do the URL thing as it's spelled out at the bottom and it's never worked. so it's not written clearly.

akm, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

That would've been a xpost if we had a xpost warning thing.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

as if the two have anything to do with each other

lfam, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

xpost to johnny b

lfam, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

i've tried to do the URL thing as it's spelled out at the bottom and it's never worked. so it's not written clearly.

But I've done it and it did work therefore it is?

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

"BBCode >>>>>>>> people being "helpful" and killing ILX again.

The Wayward Johnny B on Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:34 (55 seconds ago)"

reichstag_fire.jpg

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

I've done the URL thing as spelled out at the bottom, and it's worked every time. So it's fine!

Forest Pines, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

911-loose-change.jpg

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

ENRIQUE OTM x INFINITY

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

11) no admins on noise board
12) no admin log
13) all these decisions made behind closed doors without asking for our input

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

My Link Title

blueski, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

I don't understand these things, but I was under the impression that having real HTML was a massive security risk. Security is a good thing, right? I suppose you could have pretend HTML, but who uses HTML these days anyway?

The Wayward Johnny B, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

14) MORE COMPLAINING.

jessie monster, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

15) IDIOTIC OPINIONS

16) http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/09/kangaroo2AFP_405x600.jpg

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

"massive security risk"

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

15) BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

blueski, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

the main problem with the bbcode thing is that, if someone uses an "illegal link" or "illegal image," it doesn't then give you the url to choose to follow on your own, it just says "removed illegal whatever," which isn't very cool at all--especially without an explanation down there as to what constitutes illegal linkage (yes, i am aware this was explained on some other thread but the idea that people should be expected to have read that thread and remember every nuance is ridiculous).

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h143/Aramyr/bad-dudes.jpg

(obligatory)

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

17) became glaringly obvious that some people take the internet way too seriously

jessie monster, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

jon and ifam, BFF internet heroes

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

i've followed the damn thing to the extent of copy-pasting it and just replacing the URL and title and STILL it doesn't work.

Roz, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

"17) became glaringly obvious that some people take the internet way too seriously

jessie monster on Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:40 (13 seconds ago)"

this applies more to the "oh noes set up a perimeter jon has compromised the database" krew surely?

That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

GUYS I AM ACTUALLY TRYING TO BE HELPFUL STOP BEING SO CHILDISH AND POST MORE KANGAROOS GODDAMNIT

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

http://images.webmagic.com/klov.com/screens/K/yKangaroo.png

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

I bet you guys a ton of money there's definitely not a new build that fixes 99% of these problems running as a test instance on this very same server right now

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

http://peeknpoke.emuunlim.com/images/arcade/kangaroo.gif

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

Security is hella important as we don't want anybody cracking the secret Louis sexlife files.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

i wish ILX could be like how it used to be, y'know like when it was unaccessible 4-8 hours every day because of the shitty old code

blueski, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

this applies more to the "oh noes set up a perimeter jon has compromised the database" krew surely?

That one guy that quit on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:41 PM (1 minute ago)


That ended. OH NOES NO HTML will apparently go on forever.

jessie monster, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

I also bet you jon totally wrote all the code to solve the shit he incessantly bitches about too

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

http://elainemeinelsupkis.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/iraq_trial_saddam_kangaroo_court_big.jpg

pretzel walrus, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

it doesn't fix the subboard admin problem that you swore up and down in a drunken haze you'd fix for me last night!

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

cause he is a fucking COMPUTER SCIENTIST

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

ed (if you mean white dude w/ dreads not other inferior eds) is great!!

and what, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

Yea, the white dude with dreads. That dude rules!!!! (I am number one proponent of white dudes with dreads on nu ilx)

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

make ilx good = post funny gif & shit, unlike 'grimly fiendish' or 'stet' (who i had never seen post before he was suddenly dictator-for-life)

and what on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:53 PM (7 minutes ago)

exactly 2000 percent OTM

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

Y'se think I chose this? I only set out to raise funds for a new server, then suddenly Andrew's all "I quit, hurrah!" and the code's all "I broke, fule" and the new code group's all "should we write a spec to consider a language to write this in?" and there's a server in my front room, then Keith appears and says "I'll knock something together" and in the middle of it all JW's all "I r admin now cool" helpful and here we are, mr "and what".

stet, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.wwiivets.com/Curriculum%20Images/images/Reichstag%20Fire,%20February%201933,%20208-N-39835,%20NARA%20II_jpg.jpg

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

still not a mod of ask chaki.

chaki, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Ye are, chaki, but this code's not making it take effect quickly enough. That's fixed in the new stuff, which is miles better in lots of ways, but also broken in a couple which need sorted first.

stet, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

k thanks for the update.

chaki, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

I feel like we are on the verge of a hug.

nickalicious, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

BAN NICKALICIOUS

ghost rider, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

make ilx good = post funny gif & shit, unlike 'grimly fiendish'

oh, right; didn't realise that was what it was all about. silly me. here's a "funny" gif for you (actually, for some reason it's a jpeg ... that's wrong).

http://sparky.thehold.net/pix/dobber.jpg

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

Also, in case it isn't explicit from the way I stride about in my big boots, Pashmina is dictator-for-life, not me. All I do is keep the server going, and a bit of code-fuxing. Keith writes 99.9% of the code, and I pester him for features. All the calls about what should be done about poster X or anything "mod" side stuff goes on in a group of mods, and he gets the final say.

stet, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.antiquetech.com/pictures%20full-size/Intel8080Ad.jpg

g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

i had a long nabisco post written but but the problem really is just that the dudes in charge don't get what's so fun about embedding animated gifs, having usernames with 'funny' characters, banning and unbanning 'people', fucking with html to make everything 'comic' sans and those kids with their "rap music" and their baggy pants?

ghost rider, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

lol, "but but"

HI DERE, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

DAN OTM

ghost rider, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

Y'se think I chose this? I only set out to raise funds for a new server, then suddenly Andrew's all "I quit, hurrah!" and the code's all "I broke, fule" and the new code group's all "should we write a spec to consider a language to write this in?" and there's a server in my front room, then Keith appears and says "I'll knock something together" and in the middle of it all JW's all "I r admin now cool" helpful and here we are, mr "and what".

http://www.geocities.com/lotrfunnystuff/frodosamheaderbig.jpg

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

Like you'd have done a better job, Jon. (Or Ethan for that matter.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

I think I would have done a much better job, actually.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

HELP

g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

stet as Frodo OTM, hilarious

nickalicious, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

lol 4 of those are Anthony Easton

Hey wait where is Anthong?

nickalicious, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

I think I would have done a much better job, actually.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39953000/jpg/_39953357_berlin_getty_238.jpg

stet, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

I couldn't figure out what the hell this had to do with the BBC, to be honest
No more faux odes to the BBC!
I'm not really very computer literate.

aimurchie, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

David R OTM upthread

HOW CAN WE MAKE LOVE IF WE CAN'T MAKE AMENDS?

I love this thread. I ALSO LOVE SHOUTING.

Matt, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 23:24 (eighteen years ago)

I love being internet toughman

JW, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 23:37 (eighteen years ago)

and, of course, the concept of "actually make ILX good" here is really, really, really fucking moot. unless "good" has another meaning along the lines of "occasionally unreadable".

grimly fiendish on Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:42 (3 hours ago)


(ooh, louis. tell us more!)

grimly fiendish on Wednesday, 14 March 2007

(ooh, louis. tell us more!)

grimly fiendish on Wednesday, 14 March 2007

(ooh, louis. tell us more!)

grimly fiendish on Wednesday, 14 March 2007

(ooh, louis. tell us more!)

grimly fiendish on Wednesday, 14 March 2007

(ooh, louis. tell us more!)

grimly fiendish on Wednesday, 14 March 2007

and what, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

sonned by a wite kid

JW, Thursday, 15 March 2007 00:16 (eighteen years ago)

OH WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE I WENT ON A PICNIC IN THE PARK AND WATCHED MOVIES WHEN I COULD HAVE BEEN READING THIS.

jessie monster, Thursday, 15 March 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

jessie high five

gbx, Thursday, 15 March 2007 03:28 (eighteen years ago)

Back in the "constructive criticism" vein (not that anyone with any sense is probably still reading this thread), on the topic of the "Skipping messages" thing - my vote is top of thread, top of thread, top of thread. If you've been following a thread daily, you won't click on it and the DB takes no hits. If you've just pulled it out of the archived categorized questions googlesearch, you probably are going to click the damn thing anyway if the thread turns out to look like the one you were looking for, so why not make it easy to do that? And if you load up eight Rammstein threads and realize quickly that only one is the one you're after, the DB doesn't get the full hit on the other seven. Have it pop up again in the middle, of course, so you're aware when the break is.

Might also be handy to have a button at the top that doesn't load the skipped posts, but jumps you straight down to the skip point. Gets you to the most recent part of the discussion fast, without you having to be logged in - and not being logged in is kind of the default ILX condition now.

Does that convince?

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 15 March 2007 06:09 (eighteen years ago)

Every problem that this new ILX has and the old ILX had is the result of the underlying code being completely preposterous. There's no reason for a site like this to be so unbelievably insecure that HTML had to be disallowed in forum posts, and such a server hog that some of the content has to be made invisible. What this place needs is for someone with a skilled hand at CMS-based site design and some CSS chops to cobble together an ultra-simple forum based on whatever it is people actually like about this one. The design could be handled in a graphics-free manner, it could be customized to be just as stripped-down and utilitarian as it is now, and it could be full-featured, fast and graceful. In other words, it could resemble web design circa 2007, not something somebody hard-coded in 1996 from scratch. Maybe it could even have a couple themes -- one that looks just like this for people who have asshole bosses who would reprimand them if they caught them on a more traditional-looking forum, and another one that's, say, grey over grey, for people who are less keen on being blasted in the retinas by a wash of pure white by a battery of phosphor cannons while they attempt to read text.

factor, Thursday, 15 March 2007 06:55 (eighteen years ago)

I VOTE MOUTHBREATHER

jhøshea, Thursday, 15 March 2007 07:16 (eighteen years ago)

"(not that anyone with any sense is probably still reading this thread)"

Uh oh.

aimurchie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 07:47 (eighteen years ago)

awesome

everybody otm

Matt, Thursday, 15 March 2007 07:55 (eighteen years ago)

you are mostly all being such dicks to jon, like he is the only person who doesn't like the new features.

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 15 March 2007 09:33 (eighteen years ago)

Every problem that this new ILX has and the old ILX had is the result of the underlying code being completely preposterous. There's no reason for a site like this to be so unbelievably insecure that HTML had to be disallowed in forum posts, and such a server hog that some of the content has to be made invisible. What this place needs is for someone with a skilled hand at CMS-based site design and some CSS chops to cobble together an ultra-simple forum based on whatever it is people actually like about this one. The design could be handled in a graphics-free manner, it could be customized to be just as stripped-down and utilitarian as it is now, and it could be full-featured, fast and graceful. In other words, it could resemble web design circa 2007, not something somebody hard-coded in 1996 from scratch. Maybe it could even have a couple themes -- one that looks just like this for people who have asshole bosses who would reprimand them if they caught them on a more traditional-looking forum, and another one that's, say, grey over grey, for people who are less keen on being blasted in the retinas by a wash of pure white by a battery of phosphor cannons while they attempt to read text.

Factor, you're describing this new code. I doubt you're aware of the size of the archives, the scale of the traffic, or the limited amount of server, but apart from that what you describe happening IS what happened, and this is a 1.0 result. There even was a grey-on-grey theme to save yr eyes, but we disabled it until 100000 more important things worked. Drupal is not the answer here.

.stet., Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

you have to admit that "battery of phosphor cannons" is an evocative phrase

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:07 (eighteen years ago)

you are mostly all being such dicks to jon, like he is the only person who doesn't like the new features.

it's the attitude duh. yours is lousy also.

blueski, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

OH WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE I WENT ON A PICNIC IN THE PARK AND WATCHED MOVIES WHEN I COULD HAVE BEEN READING THIS.

but not long enough not to have posted this.

nathalie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:26 (eighteen years ago)

Factor, you're describing this new code. I doubt you're aware of the size of the archives, the scale of the traffic, or the limited amount of server, but apart from that what you describe happening IS what happened, and this is a 1.0 result.


Its at least web 1.1 compliant... I mean shit.. there's JAVASCRIPT *and* *CSS*. Won't work in netscape 4!

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

<i>2) done fuck all about it </i>
This is all basic incentives: the banks had a fucked-up bonus system that rewarded people for behaving like this. And MPs have a massive incentive system for keeping house prices going up, as it gets them votes (witness the massacre right now). There was nobody else to prevent it apart from the people in the market, and that's not gonna happen unless they're too busy panic-buying petrol or something.

-- stet, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:08 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

caek, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:43 (seventeen years ago)

joeks!

caek, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:43 (seventeen years ago)

Just when I'd forgotten how much fun that period of ILX was.

Laurel, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:50 (seventeen years ago)

it was proto-butthurt.

caek, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:51 (seventeen years ago)

make ilx good = post funny gif & shit, unlike 'grimly fiendish' or 'stet' (who i had never seen post before he was suddenly dictator-for-life)

-- and what, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:53 (1 year ago)

bears repeating

DG, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:59 (seventeen years ago)

let go

onimo, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:06 (seventeen years ago)

shush, monobrow

DG, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:06 (seventeen years ago)

I feel a little bad for laughing at that

HI DERE, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:07 (seventeen years ago)


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