East Peckham & Nunhead: Tell me about it

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East Peckham & Nunhead: Tell me about it

― 600, Sunday, 25 March 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

specifically around lausanne and evalina roads, if you know that part

― 600, Sunday, 25 March 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

evelina sorry

― 600, Sunday, 25 March 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

there is no funicular sadly

― blueski, Sunday, 25 March 2007 23:07 (eighteen years ago)

it is frustratingly close to where i live, in that i don't actually know anything about it whatsoever but that the train from blackheath to victoria runs straight through it.

― unfished business, Sunday, 25 March 2007 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

I hear there is good skronk at the Ivy House, if you like that sort of thing. You're also not far from the Montague Arms, once described by Tim H as the worst pub in London. They have a stuffed zebra, a description of which once made me accidentally spit beer all over you, many years ago.

Nunhead's not really got any sort of centre to it, it's more a hinterland between Peckham and New Cross, isn't it?

― Matt DC, Sunday, 25 March 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

i squatted for a few months in a chapel on nunhead grove. the graveyard at nunhead is beautiful, and the huge wide road it lies on (linden grove???) is in a perpetual state of grey silence, a very lonely area. evelina lane is pretty much parallel to linden grove, at the other end of the street i squatted on. it is a bit more populated and has shops, a few pubs (the pyrotechnist's arms!), and car lots and stuff. the 78 bus goes down this road, towards shoreditch via peckham and the old kent road, a useful bus. lausanne is more new cross/telegraph hill/peckham ends, and lies just off the queens rd i think. a more student-y area i guess.

― rio natsume, Sunday, 25 March 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

the montague arms does a good roast. oh yeah, the klinker at the ivy house, nunhead has music on pretty much every night, i guess weird wire magazine type experimental stuff and spoken word nights and that kind of thing.

― rio natsume, Sunday, 25 March 2007 23:23 (eighteen years ago)

We very nearly moved to Nunhead - a nice little Victorian semi on a quiet back street but couldn't face the vast refurb it would've required (and here we are 13 months later still no closer to finishing this place). Cemetery is great, obviously, but I couldn't get that enthused about the rest of the area. Proximity to a couple of ILXors (and Peckham Rye) was its greatest appeal at the time!

― Michael Jones, Monday, 26 March 2007 00:04 (eighteen years ago)

theyre building two funiculars i thought, one rising out of new cross gate, and then maybe another coming out of surrey quays later on

― 600, Monday, 26 March 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)

What do you want to know? Some parts of it are very pretty. My friends have recently bought a place there near the train station. It's not that bad a walk from New Cross from the tube although beware - HILLS. Also there will be no tube throughout 2008 at least. Don't know about bus routes - the 343 and the 78 are the only ones I can think of, and there's trains to Blackfriars and Victoria. Not actually too much IN Nunhead as I can gather, apart from graveyard.

― Sarah, Monday, 26 March 2007 10:56 (eighteen years ago)

Also - the Montague Arms doesn't count as Nunhead! The pub at the top of the road near the Montague Arms counts though - it's nice, and of course I can't remember the name.

― Sarah, Monday, 26 March 2007 10:57 (eighteen years ago)

im not sure what i want to know, what it would be like to live. the area immediately north of nunhead station.

not going to be relying on tube, so thats ok. when it does come its going to be to brockley, but should be near enough. thinking brockley might be a slightly better bet i dont know.

along evelina road it seems quite peaceful, but not sure what its like at night, doesnt seem sketchy in the daytime (i presume that comes further north?). the station is a bit neglected though isnt it?

― 600, Monday, 26 March 2007 11:14 (eighteen years ago)

and, what are the borders of nunhead, out of interest?

― 600, Monday, 26 March 2007 11:24 (eighteen years ago)

it seems this area is somewhat lacking in boosters. are tim and julio on holiday, perhaps the algarve? i wouldn't blame them if they were

it seems the further south you go, the leafier it is, and that the area to the north of the station is a little shabbier? my impression is of somewhere that feels a bit tired, a bit frayed, but in need of nothing more than a little tidying up.

telegraph is immediately to the east, and the houses jump in size, and it immediately feels more cared for

i guess im wondering if this area is likely to be on the rise soon, or if all the regeneration money is flying into peckham proper, and that it is brockley and telegraph hill that are more likely to take off..?

― 600, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

I come back from Nunhead to New Cross at night by foot quite a lot, the streets are mostly empty and quiet even outside the pub. Most of the roads are just terraced houses on that route. There are a few cheaper estates and new builds which I've never been in to. My friends have bought in one of the estate areas.

Telegraph Hill "conservation area" hardly needs any regeneration money! It's already fairly wealthy there, viz Farmers Market at the top of the hill (I have seen posters but never been).

I was in Brockley for about 10 mins a week or two ago, then I left Brockley. I didn't really see anything of note. There's some mad crazy mural stuff going on down there though.

― Sarah, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Holiday?! Tim maybe, but not me, no, I'm more likely to be trying to find the right words to describe an Alvin Lucier record that I ws listening to yesterday, or something.

"I hear there is good skronk at the Ivy House, if you like that sort of thing."

That's on thur, but the Ivy does put on a (what can be described as a) young person's folky music night (wed, I think) - one of their nights ended up being filmed for an item for "The Culture Show" on BBC2.

"oh yeah, the klinker at the ivy house, nunhead has music on pretty much every night, i guess weird wire magazine type experimental stuff and spoken word nights and that kind of thing."

Well, its a mix of stuff, not all 'experimental' - one particularly memorable night had an improvised fiddle (a 'duet' with a home-made film), but that ws followed with a band of17-ish year olds doing their first ever gig (Hole and Jimmy Eat World were covered as well as their own numbers), followed by really bad poetry reading (full on Adorno quotations *sigh*) w/ perc, then an amazing series of marimba/ukelele/thremin/violin improvisations.

Lots of contrast - you might like it, 600.

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

Do you have a link to young persons south london folky thing at the ivy?

― Ed, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

oh sorry i meant, the regeneration money going into peckham rather than nunhead (as brockley and t.hill are a different borough), and then that brockley and t.hill will get the boost from the ell, whereas nunhead mightnt

im still not even sure if the area around lausanne road is actually nunhead, nothing seems clear

― 600, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

Nunhead has a very very good fishmongers apparently.

also "surely it should be pyrotechnicists arms?" I think every time we pass that pub.

― Porkpie, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

Tim H can't access nu-ILX at work btw

― blueski, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

ed - only found this bit in time out.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 12:19 (eighteen years ago)

TS: nunhead vs brockley

― 600, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:03 (eighteen years ago)

There's not really very much difference.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:07 (eighteen years ago)

Brockley is much prettier in parts, I think. Those winding avenues around Hilly Fields?

You can't get a seat on a morning rush-hour train in Brockley, though. Folks this morning could barely squeeze on at all. Not sure about Nunhead.

― Michael Jones, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:10 (eighteen years ago)

except brockley gets a station on the ell extension that ed loves so much?

― 600, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:11 (eighteen years ago)

this would be the northern end of brockley, closer to st johns...

the getting on the train thing is something of a concern, but then if you try and get on the victoria at finsbury park at the wrong time, it can be a real problem. id be looking at getting on around 630, that should be early enough?

― 600, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:13 (eighteen years ago)

are you an estate agent?

― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:13 (eighteen years ago)

what is train/tube interchange like at cannon st and blackfriars? its awful at london bridge

― 600, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:15 (eighteen years ago)

mr positive is here! hello mr positive!

― 600, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:16 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, you should be fine at 6:30. Not that I have first-hand experience of that.

The loveliness of northern Brockley ceases pretty abruptly once you get to Lewisham College and St Johns (which has its own train difficulties - few services actually stops there).

― Michael Jones, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:17 (eighteen years ago)

zing?

xp

― That one guy that quit, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:20 (eighteen years ago)

ha this would be quite close to the college, but on the south side of the railway line

― 600, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:20 (eighteen years ago)

I know that area quite well. It's the main road between the college and St Johns which is the northern border of niceness for SE4, if memory serves.

Tube interchange at London Bridge is OK as they re-did everything when the Jubilee line was extended - nice wide walkways, etc. I change to another overground train there (Charing X), which is a bit of a herding operation, but I know where I'm going so it's not a problem.

― Michael Jones, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:36 (eighteen years ago)

well it ceases to be SE4 above that road doesnt it? i was wondering if it would turn into se13 or se14, but apparently its SE8

― 600, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:39 (eighteen years ago)

Dude forget about the East London Line, it won't do anything useful it doesn't already do other than give you a direct train to Shoreditch and Dalston.

Cannon Street interchange is fine, not sure about Blackfriars. To be honest I think the Jubilee Line interchange at London Bridge is okay as well if you're going west, it's getting on the Northern Line that's hell.

But if you're commuting to H------- you shouldn't be going anywhere near either Cannon Street or London Bridge - surely the straight train to Victoria would be the least shit option? Personally I wouldn't touch that commute with a bargepole but still.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:42 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, yes, y'right - SE8 = Deptford. The border between SE4 and SE13 runs up the middle of Hilly Fields and crosses that main road where it turns into Loampit Hill (where it's a three way junction with SE8 to the north).

I used to know those postcode boundaries like the back of my MD recorder.

Yes, London Bridge Northern Line is 'orrible - how could I have forgotten? The whole summer of '99 I had to go that way. But, again, if you're there at 7-ish...

Didn't know you were going to H-------. The mind boggles.

― Michael Jones, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:54 (eighteen years ago)

Note that for the Cannon Street change, you have to come the whole way out of the station and walk down a little alleyway to Bank to get on the Central Line (which isn't as bad to get on in the mornings as you'd imagine, personally I hate the central line so I rarely do this unless I am engrossed in book and forget to get off at London Bridge - this happens). I have never got the train from Monument from Canon Street but I hate that whole underground maze nightmare.

I think the London Bridge change to the tube is alright OUTSIDE OF RUSH HOUR. In the mornings, you have no chance of immediately getting on the tube from the train with no problem. They frequently hold people by the barriers to prevent overcrowding on the platforms and it can get pretty horrific. Not sure if this is for both Northern and Jubilee lines as I always change at London Bridge for another overground to Charing X.

Nunhead to H------- = considerable OW.

― Sarah, Thursday, 29 March 2007 08:56 (eighteen years ago)

Back when I was doing LonBri Tubeage in the mornings, the Northern Line was as bad as Sarah describes and the Jubilee Line wasn't finished yet! When it became available there was rarely any overcrowding down that way and I would occasionally do JL to Baker Street and then take one of those plasticine strips of colour over to Kings X just to avoid the horror of the NL.

― Michael Jones, Thursday, 29 March 2007 09:11 (eighteen years ago)

Actually I used to get on the Northern Line at London Bridge every day at about 7.15am and it was fine then. Not that 600 will ever be getting on it in rush hour anyway so this is all kind of moot.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 March 2007 09:24 (eighteen years ago)

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