is terry gilliam's "time bandits" the best film ever made?

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Sitting on the bus 'ome this evening, I was thinking about this v strange film. VArious images from it passed thru my head:

At the end, when the fireman rescues the little boy from the fire, we see a quick shot of the fireman's boot treading on a bunch of toys - a chessboard, toy cowboys, knights etc - thee exact same configuration as in the climactic battle w/"evil"

Evil himself, as played by mighty david warner

The monsters summoned by evil - horses skulls on huge black cloaks w/ bones for arms who shoot rockets out of their eye sockets (an image so amazingly strange that matt howarth cribbed it for his "savage henry comix, BTW)

The intrepid adventurers trapped in a cage suspended over any inky abyss w/a rope. The whole sequence where the escape by cutting the rope, & swinging to the next cage. Brrrr......

God as dreary beaurocrat

etc etc etc

Clearly, there is no better film than "time bandits"

Whaddyathink?

Norman Phay, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, and the bit where they break the glass horizon, revealing the fortress of evil, I mean fucking jorge luis borges or what?@#?@#?@#

Norman Phay, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"I am the supreme being you know. I'm not entirely dim."

mark s, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oooh, this is one of my favorite movies. URGENT & KEY question: is there a soundtrack released, and how can I get it?

rosemary, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Godlike, of course. What a film for an eleven year old to see in theaters, as I was lucky enough to do in the way back when. Friend Karen's favorite line: "Little things, hitting each other!"

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

And the happy ending is his parents get killed. That's the price for freedom from restrictions and interference I suppose.

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I tried to argue that Mullholland Drive was modelled on Time Bandits, re: fantasy extrapolated from small insignificant details in scenes at tend of film. Argument only went so far.

Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Time Bandits is a good film, but Who Framed Roger Rabbit is the best.

DV, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"NOT anytime! ONLY WHEN IT'S FUNNY!"

mark s, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No.

Pete, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

is terry gilliam's "time bandits" the best film ever made?
Yes. And my dad went to school with David Rappaport.

DG, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A Poem: (ahem)

David Rappaport
Is very, very short.

Pete, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A Poem That is Also True (I Believe)

(Ahem)

David Rappaport est mort.

Jonnie, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No, the best film is What's Up Doc. With 'Barbra'

alix, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Foul Play with Goldie is better than the Doc movie.

Pete, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In your world, maybe. What's Up Doc is great hangover viewing. At the moment I am watching Watership Down. It's an ongoing project as I can't take more than 20 minutes at a time. The little rabbits. They are so brave.

alix, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Num Num - Rabbit Stew.

Pete, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've not eaten bunny.

alix, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Best film ever wehat I only discovered the existence of last Monday morning HONEY, WE SHRUNK OURSELVES!

Graham, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Shouldn't that be Honey, we shrunk the audience?

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Have you gone mad?

Graham, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I MUST BUY GAME!

Sarah, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Rabbit when done right = delicious.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ten years pass...

not the best film ever made but mighty fine, with minor trippy episodes still intact and functioning.

good bit not mentioned so far: the boat they are on in the time of legends turns out to be a giant's hat.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

"10 years pass..."

bloody hell, looks like we all lost the map.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:40 (thirteen years ago)

Loved this when I was 11, bought the screenplay and read it many times when I was 13.

Odd Spice (Eazy), Monday, 25 June 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

A:eye

contenderizer, Monday, 25 June 2012 23:29 (thirteen years ago)

All time. The dread I felt at the ending (I was just about Kevin's age when I saw it upon release in the theater) was formative. That feeling would later be replicated regularly as I struggled with depression growing up and even now! Yeah! Seriously, though, love it. Saw it again recently for first time in many years and it's still perfect.

andrew m., Tuesday, 26 June 2012 00:21 (thirteen years ago)

yeah. i saw it at age 14, and i remember thinking at the end "that's exactly how i feel" and being sort of freaked out by the idea that i'd be similarly lost for the rest of my life. gilliam otm.

contenderizer, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 00:57 (thirteen years ago)

top 3 Gilliam films ever made, easy

democracy defends capital (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 01:01 (thirteen years ago)

for some reason i saw this movie several times at a pretty young age, probably 10 or younger, before seeing any other Gilliam or even any Python, and it's just tattooed on my brain. "don't touch it, it's evil" and the film ending with the kids parents dead was the first really fucked up downer ending i probably ever saw.

some dude, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 01:06 (thirteen years ago)

ya this was one of my childhood favorites, so good

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

This was the first 'adult' film I saw, the floating head freaked me the fuck out, age 5

Call me Ishmael (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

"that's god? that's what god looks like?!" etc.

Call me Ishmael (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 01:14 (thirteen years ago)

I can never get over just how fucked up the ending is - imagine someone trying to get away w/ that now (except as some sort of misleading sequel tease).

Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2012 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

good bit not mentioned so far: the boat they are on in the time of legends turns out to be a giant's hat.

good bit not mentioned so far: the Castle Of Ultimate Darkness is built out of gigantic pieces of Lego.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 01:34 (thirteen years ago)

My neighbor's son just turned 10, so she asked me if I had a few movies to lend for the birthday party. I was looking on the shelf and found all sorts of stuff he could see, like "Airplane," but being on the safe side, I kind of figured it was a little weird for a mom to set them up for a room full of boys. That's the sort of movie they should discover on their own. But then I saw "Time Bandits" and I thought, yeah, this is perfect. And they loved it. Best of all, most likely none of them had ever heard of it.

Movie is so good, so inventive, and the set-design is all time. Plus, catchy George Harrison ditty!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:09 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2wrte1ijlY

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:10 (thirteen years ago)

OTM youtube comment:

I LOVE this movie! Every time it ends I feel like I'm saying goodbye to old friends as I sit through the credits just hear this song.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:11 (thirteen years ago)

I can never get over just how fucked up the ending is - imagine someone trying to get away w/ that now (except as some sort of misleading sequel tease).

otm. son and daughter watched it for first time with me yesterday. his laugh at the killings at the end turning instantly to "wait, they don't just end the film like that..?" different generation these teenagers...

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 05:11 (thirteen years ago)

actually never saw the whle thing until recently. great movie.

fancy poodle (latebloomer), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

I was looking on the shelf and found all sorts of stuff he could see, like "Airplane,"

Daddy, why is that blow-up pilot jumping up and down?

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 09:57 (thirteen years ago)

great bad guy. "I'd start with lasers, 8 o'clock, day one"

PSOD (Ste), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 12:04 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

excerpt from a new book... editing wars! before Brazil!

The first ripples of discontent surfaced when O’Brien insisted that Gilliam change the film’s ending where Kevin’s mother and father are killed. ‘You can’t blow up parents at the end of a children’s film!’ exploded O’Brien. Gilliam stood his ground. ‘That’s the whole point. No one’s done it before.’ But O’Brien was insistent. ‘It’ll alienate the audience.’ Gilliam was ready for that one. ‘The audience is kids and every kid has this fantasy about getting rid of his parents.’ To solve the argument, a special screening for a bunch of youngsters was arranged and the first one out, a particularly precocious five-year-old boy, was asked what his favourite moment of the film was. ‘The parents being blown up!’ He whooped with delight....

It’s striking how Gilliam refused to budge on anything with O’Brien over Time Bandits, even eliciting mild exasperation from one of his most ardent admirers, George Harrison, who told the director, ‘You remind me of John Lennon, you’re so difficult, so bolshie. Can’t you just compromise?’ It was the thing that Gilliam was most proud of that Harrison ever said to him. Harrison’s other major critique over that incident took the form of his one and only song for Time Bandits, which plays over the end titles. Gilliam remembers, ‘What I discovered after the event was that that song is George’s notes to me about my attitude on the film. On the lyric, there’s something about apologies. He felt I owed Denis and him some apologies because I was so unbending in the way I approached things. It’s really funny because I enjoyed listening to the song but at the time I had no idea it was George writing his notes to me.’ Some of the lyrics read ‘Greedy feeling, wheeling dealing. Losing what you won. See the dream come undone,’ and most revealingly, ‘...all you owe is apologies.’

Eric Idle actually believes that some of the gloss came off the HandMade wagon for Harrison as a direct result of Time Bandits’ turbulent post-production. ‘I think George fell out of love with it when he made Time Bandits because he just realised what Gilliam was really like. You try to discuss a budget with Terry Gilliam, it’s kind of ridiculous. Terry is completely mono, he’s taken several businesses out of existence. Several companies have fallen victim to the Gilliam piracy.’

http://io9.com/its-a-miracle-that-terry-gilliams-time-bandits-even-g-1332560707

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:52 (twelve years ago)

I used to get kind of sad when the parents blew up. I guess I relatively liked my parents at the time.

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:02 (twelve years ago)

Still like 'Brazil' better but Cleese's "What awful people!", in Time Bandits never fails to make me smile.

Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:58 (twelve years ago)

liking my parents ruined roald dahl for me. fuck u mom and dad

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 21:59 (twelve years ago)

that piece v funny for how they almost gave Sean Connery all the profits

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:42 (twelve years ago)

the piece doesn't say that at all, and as if denis o'brien of all people would make that fuckup

(it says o'brien had structured connery's share so that it came out of / preceded gilliam's share. which is far more pvmic)

I'm not a rockist, I just hate Rap-A-Lot (sic), Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:55 (twelve years ago)

i didn't think was all that great, and i've never been able to watch brazil, and it makes me sad cos everyone else has so much enthusiasm for them

quite racist, don't mind rap (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 September 2013 12:25 (twelve years ago)

Love "Time Bandits" so much, esp. how phenomenally iconic it is without being iconic canon. That is, it's a massively memorable and cool looking and fun adventure, yet I encounter kids all the time who have never heard of it/seen it. It's a real pleasure to introduce this movie (along with the likes of ET) to families/friends whose kids have been numbed by rapid paces, CGI and the notion that big-budget action movies are all acted with American accents.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 September 2013 12:49 (twelve years ago)

yer right sic, I shoulda said Gilliam's profits

(even American cinephiles have no idea who Denis O'Brien is)

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:04 (twelve years ago)

Beatles fans might know him as the manager that ripped off Geo Harrison so bad that Harrison agreed to the Anthology TV series and albums though

I'm not a rockist, I just hate Rap-A-Lot (sic), Thursday, 19 September 2013 20:08 (twelve years ago)

Ahead of its time!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlJaIREGnaM

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:01 (twelve years ago)

I remember seeing it as a kid and just being ecstatic at the end... his shitty parents were dead, and the other adults just left him alone! I remember being super-jealous of him because I was like "that kid can do anything he wants, and nobody will bother him."

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:53 (twelve years ago)

this is the best movie

goth drama is universal (latebloomer), Saturday, 28 September 2013 16:22 (twelve years ago)

I haven't watched it since I saw it in the theater. Fuck that evil rock!

pplains, Saturday, 28 September 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

The morons are among us

http://observationdeck.io9.com/1-star-movie-reviews-time-bandits-1470210020/1471229966/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 November 2013 21:31 (twelve years ago)

three years pass...

first view in a long while today; Napoleon episode still not at all funny. David Warner microchip dialogue above is indeed prsecient! and clearly all that shit is Satan's work.

and Jim Broadbent as the game show host!

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 February 2017 01:54 (eight years ago)

Warner, so good.

The scene in Tron when he talks to the mcp and signs off with a simple "Cute".

PressAnarchyToContinue (Ste), Monday, 6 February 2017 02:07 (eight years ago)

Gilliam says on his CC commentary that Connery, about 50yo, wouldn't let him shooting him mounting his horse bcz "it wouldn't look good." Time, the bandit.

He also says that Ralph Richardson plied him with gin & tonics to test him at a Sunday meeting, and that it was RR's idea to put Evil in a postal box.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 20:55 (eight years ago)

haven't seen this since I was a kid, need to rewatch

did rewatch lost in la mancha recently and man am I glad he didn't make his horrible quixote film (he comes across like an awful manchild in that film too)

wins, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:01 (eight years ago)

He always has

N Vogue (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:02 (eight years ago)

yeah I guess I haven't seen him talk much but I do remember him seeming slightly more sympathetic the first time I watched (when it was first released)

wins, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:04 (eight years ago)

I watched this w my daughter recently and it holds up v well, altho Morbz is right that the Napoleon thing isn't especially funny (I do like the Bandits' rendition of "Me and My Shadow" though). Otherwise the cast is uniformly incredible, Richardson is hilarious, Broadbent is creepy as fuck, Warner is wonderful.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:09 (eight years ago)

also great George Harrison song over the closing credits

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:09 (eight years ago)

Seeing Broadbent crop up in Gilliam's stuff then was always a treat.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:12 (eight years ago)

visited Sir Ralph's grave in November, forgot to tell him "Being dead no excuse to slough off work"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:15 (eight years ago)

lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:16 (eight years ago)

uhhh, re Quixote:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1318517/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_1

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:21 (eight years ago)

rats

wins, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:22 (eight years ago)

"also great George Harrison song over the closing credits

― Οὖτις, "

oh yeah, weirdly I've had that song in my head a lot for the last month!

akm, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 00:20 (eight years ago)

Didn't George Harrison essentially underwrite it too? Anyway, great film.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 01:53 (eight years ago)

this movie is pretty dope. i would bring it to a desert island.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 02:02 (eight years ago)

One of my friends just saw it last week for the first time ever and he loved it.

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 02:14 (eight years ago)

i saw this for the first time with a characteristically vocal Times Square crowd on opening weekend in '81. When the bandits appeared in tuxes on the Titanic: "DAMN, talk about Kool & The Gang!"

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 02:36 (eight years ago)

Didn't George Harrison essentially underwrite it too?

Via Handmade Films, yup.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 02:48 (eight years ago)

Thought we were referring to the song tbh

Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 07:58 (eight years ago)

I few years ago, I was chilling and grilling with some friends. Someone pointed to a chunk of carbonized mesquite and said "it's EEEEVIL," and everyone present got the reference immediately. This movie makes me happy every time I think of it, which is often.

But slightly apart from the topic, the mention of Jim Broadbent reminds me that there was a period where he was basically inescapable in movie theaters. If you were making an Anglo-American movie with an ensemble cast, it appeared that you literally COULD NOT MAKE A MOVIE if you didn't have Broadbent. Check this motherfucker out, especially 1991-2001.

1991: Enchanted April
1992: The Crying Game
1994: Bullets Over Broadway
1994: Princess Caraboo
1997: The Borrowers
1998: Little Voice
1999: Topsy-Turvy
2001: Bridget Jones
2001: Iris
2001: Moulin Rouge
2002: Gangs of New York
2005: Chronicles of Narnia
2007: Hot Fuzz
2008: Indiana Jones
2009: Young Victoria
2012: Cloud Atlas

If you went to an Anglo-American movie with an ensemble cast in those days, you were pretty much going to get broadBent.

1994's "Four Weddings and a Funeral" and 2003's "Love Actually" were notable for NOT having Jim Broadbent in them.

During the opening credits of "Love Actually," I actually leaned over to my wife and said "Jim Broadbent must have been too busy."

Oh the pacmanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:10 (eight years ago)

1990: Life Is Sweet
1989: Erik the Viking

Possibly the least known living Oscar-winning actor?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:14 (eight years ago)

He's not a leading man or a sex symbol but it certainly seemed like he was in almost every movie for a long time.

Kinda think there should be a POLL on those, btw.

Oh the pacmanity (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:17 (eight years ago)

Doesn't matter.

His only fools and horses appearances are it

Betsy DeVos Ayes (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:33 (eight years ago)

National Theatre of Brent ftw.

brekekekexit collapse collapse (ledge), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 19:35 (eight years ago)


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