Best Coen Brothers movie

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Joel and Ethan, everyone loves them (don't they?), but which is the pick of the bunch? Is it a Fargone conclusion?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
The Big Lebowski 49
Fargo 26
Barton Fink 20
Raising Arizona 12
Miller's Crossing 12
The Hudsucker Proxy 10
O Brother, Where Art Thou? 10
Blood Simple 5
The Man Who Wasn't There 1
Intolerable Cruelty 0
The Ladykillers0


Billy Dods, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)

I think you'll find far from everybody loves them. I do tho, at least up to The Ladykillers, which is pretty shitty.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

I rank my four faves in the following order, tho the top spot changes depending on mood.

1) Miller's Crossing
2) Barton Fink
3) The Hudsucker Proxy
4) Raising Arizona

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

law of diminishing returns seriously in effect with these guys too wtf.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

raising arizona has diminishing returns?

cutty, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 23:54 (eighteen years ago)

i could watch the ten minute introduction to the film every day and not get tired of it. and the ending, the ending!

cutty, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 23:55 (eighteen years ago)

raising arizona is the only great movie they ever made, and it is really, really great. i saw miller's crossing again recently and was shocked by how totally empty and just... nothing it was. that's their steez though, all portent, no payoff.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 23:57 (eighteen years ago)

Crossing/Lebowski tie for first

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:07 (eighteen years ago)

first what?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:10 (eighteen years ago)

first favorite

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:11 (eighteen years ago)

sorry, these guys just make me pine for the good old days when insanely talented filmmakers with absolutely nothing to say had a studio system that gave them durable scripts and made them stick to the point. yes, i am hitler.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:15 (eighteen years ago)

Hudsucker may not be best, but it's definitely the most underrated.

Lebowski is awful.

milo z, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:28 (eighteen years ago)

I love Hudsucker!

Abbott, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:34 (eighteen years ago)

I LOVE YOU BUT I'VE CHOSEN BARTON.

I think I made a mistake.

Abbott, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:35 (eighteen years ago)

Blood Simple just edging it for me. Then again, I haven't seen it in a while. Does it suck?

Matt #2, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:40 (eighteen years ago)

the dude abides... and our cat is named nathan jr.
m.

msp, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:41 (eighteen years ago)

they are finishing an adaptaion now for cormac mccarthy's "no country for old man".
maybe this will be their best film? the story is sooooo cohen's..
(ive chosen "barton fink")

Zeno, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:44 (eighteen years ago)

sonnenfeld was their secret weapon

rps, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:45 (eighteen years ago)

bar-ton fink! bar-ton fink!

rio natsume, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)

ahh fargo, obvious and safe

deej, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:52 (eighteen years ago)

i have been killfiled, haven't i

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:14 (eighteen years ago)

1. fargo
2. raising arizona
3. lebowski

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:20 (eighteen years ago)

as much as i love lebowski & fink, fargo is the only perfect movie

and what, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:33 (eighteen years ago)

raising arizona is basically my name is earl

and what, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:33 (eighteen years ago)

arayghgh you did not just say that

deeznuts, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:35 (eighteen years ago)

these guys just make me pine for the good old days when insanely talented filmmakers with absolutely nothing to say had a studio system that gave them durable scripts and made them stick to the point.

yeah, this seems kind of otm, loath as I am to admit it. I have never been able to sit through O Brother, Where Art Thou, and I think it's because of this. still, I've never seen Fink; that one seems pretty weighty.

also, I love John Goodman so much I will forever be grateful to the Coen brothers for giving him a ton of work.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:37 (eighteen years ago)

O Brother towers over everything else they done in the last 10 years. At least it's a good Christmas Day family movie and has a great soundtrack.

milo z, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:39 (eighteen years ago)

i picked lebowski because i've seen it about a quarter billion times and i don't want to think i've wasted my time

gff, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:40 (eighteen years ago)

"at least its a good christmas day family movie" = you think the coen brothers are complete horseshit, correct?

xpost gff otm

deeznuts, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:41 (eighteen years ago)

'intolerable cruelty' is awesome, somebody should pick that.

gff, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:42 (eighteen years ago)

why do people hate Lebowski? is it just the obsessive fans? that movie makes me so happy!

horseshoe, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:43 (eighteen years ago)

obsessive fans + dull + not actually funny

milo z, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:43 (eighteen years ago)

even if big lebowski was nothing but Jeff Bridges speaking in that amazing voice, I think I would love it.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:46 (eighteen years ago)

haha i did forget last 10 years only = like past 4 flicks. still o brother where are thou is great & the man who wasnt there & intolerable cruelty are criminally underrated.

ps no i am genuinely not a coen bros fanboy

deeznuts, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 01:46 (eighteen years ago)

I remember being shocked at how boring I found Blood Simple.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

But then, I was drunk. Maybe I'll give it a sober run some time.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

people who quote big lebowski = dud. still a good film though.

rio natsume, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 02:06 (eighteen years ago)

that shit was stoner's delight when i was like 14

rio natsume, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 02:09 (eighteen years ago)

people who smoke a roach the dude style for jokes = totally classic

rio natsume, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 02:12 (eighteen years ago)

I remember being shocked at how boring I found Blood Simple.

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, April 3, 2007 10:04 PM (9 minutes ago)

this is a genuine hoosteen otm

and what, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

Which Coen bros somebody loves/hates = some kind of Rorschach test

For me, it's The Big L all the way.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 02:22 (eighteen years ago)

blood simple is so intricately put together. in every scene at least one of the characters is acting based on mistaken assumptions, and only the viewer has all the pieces. it's a head trip in a low-key kind of way. unlike barton fink, which is a head trip in an AHHH WALLS R MELTING kind of way.

Edward III, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 02:35 (eighteen years ago)

I'd rank them something like this (best first):
The Big Lebowski
Fargo
Raising Arizona
The Hudsucker Proxy
Blood Simple
Barton Fink
The Man Who Wasn't There

and then the ones I don't really like:
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Miller's Crossing

never saw the most recent two

abanana, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 02:35 (eighteen years ago)

sonnenfeld was their secret weapon

I thought Roger Deakins was their secret weapon, especially on O Brother and TMWWT.

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 04:08 (eighteen years ago)

i've never been able to stay awake through fargo, but there are great parts in there.

coen bros are good at characters. or possibly heavy-handed with it... but i think it's a positive thing regardless.

my wife could probably sit down and recite most of the dialogue in raising arizona. many of their movies are highly quotable. again, possibly overdone, but we're quoters, so it works for us. i mean, when there was no crawdads, we ate sand! you ate sand? we ate sand!

i kind of wonder, if some of the funnier ones aren't funny at all to some of you, what is funny?

msp, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 04:16 (eighteen years ago)

I never saw Intolerable Cruelty, but when I worked in a video store I was very grateful for its existence because every time I shelved it, I got to hiss, INTOLERABLE CRU-EL-TY."

I liked to also say "A Very Loooooooooooooooooong Engagement" when I shelved that one.

Abbott, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 04:19 (eighteen years ago)

I think O Brother is probably their best movie, though I voted Hudsucker as a sentimental favorite.

I DIED, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 04:30 (eighteen years ago)

oh brother was so lovely to look at on the big screen. so beautiful.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 04:33 (eighteen years ago)

anybody ever see crimewave, the movie they did with sam raimi? it's pretty bad, but you can see all the elements of their future work in that movie.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 04:35 (eighteen years ago)

like, the good and the bad.


i do love miller's crossing too. again with the visual loveliness.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 04:36 (eighteen years ago)

Looks fantastic. And the Coens track record with farce is encouraging.

The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Saturday, 10 October 2015 13:30 (ten years ago)

yeah i was gonna say, are we really worried about these guys being able to do farce!?

some dude, Saturday, 10 October 2015 14:15 (ten years ago)

although it was funny to me to watch a trailer full of glamorous movie stars, many of which have never been in a Coen film before, and at the end Clooney opens a door to a room full of the kind of funny-looking old character actors that are usually in greater supply in their movies.

some dude, Saturday, 10 October 2015 14:16 (ten years ago)

existential terror coens >>> farce coens imo, but I guess everyone needs a break now and again

(extremely nerds voice) (Clay), Saturday, 10 October 2015 17:36 (ten years ago)

When they mixed existential terror with farce, we got A Serious Man, which is currently my favorite of their oeuvre.

Aimless, Saturday, 10 October 2015 17:43 (ten years ago)

The underrated Burn After Reading as well, sorta.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 10 October 2015 17:45 (ten years ago)

yeah I'm a BAR stan as well

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 October 2015 17:52 (ten years ago)

we should do this poll again, they've made five decent-to-killer movies since!

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 October 2015 17:53 (ten years ago)

watched that three times and i think it was for brolin's "good lord!"

imo god came to shakespeare in a dream and showed him julius caesar (mankiewicz 1953) and shakespeare in wonderment knew at last who and what he was and blessed the bitterness of his life, so i am hyped

playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 10 October 2015 18:16 (ten years ago)

saw big lebowski again recently, i think its insanity is part of its cult appeal but it's not that good, at all really. out of what i've seen of theirs it's maybe my least favorite, and i think i've seen everything except for intolerable cruelty and the ladykillers (which i've heard are their worst.)

nomar, Saturday, 10 October 2015 18:42 (ten years ago)

I wonder if an older Barton Fink might make a cameo in Hail Cesar?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Saturday, 10 October 2015 19:44 (ten years ago)

intolerable cruelty underrated imo

balls, Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:40 (ten years ago)

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--0iPWki0E--/c_fill,fl_progressive,g_center,h_200,q_80,w_200/k1t2qnzuhlnp1stwa9xz.png

Just thought this thread needed a photo of the guy who wrote the Jezebel post "The Coen Brothers' New Movie Hail Caesar! Looks Very Funny, and Very White."

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:50 (ten years ago)

Hey at least... Robert Picardo... got in. Yeah, I got nothin'.

Nhex, Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:28 (ten years ago)

tbf to the Coen Brothers just every film that takes place in some kind of glamorous American pre-60s time... hrm. yeah...

Nhex, Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:30 (ten years ago)

The Coen Brothers' New Movie Hail Caesar! Looks Very Funny, and Very White

the almost-certainly-useless thinkpiece I knew was coming halfway through the trailer

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:44 (ten years ago)

Man I will ride hard for Intolerable Cruelty

bunny slopes, Saturday, 10 October 2015 22:53 (ten years ago)

Um, the Hollywood movie industry prior to 1965 was at least 99% white.

Aimless, Saturday, 10 October 2015 23:43 (ten years ago)

Um, the Hollywood movie industry prior to 1965 was at least 99% white.

This was brought up by commenters. The response was (literally) to post the dictionary definition of the word "fiction" over and over.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 11 October 2015 01:16 (ten years ago)

Aren't all Coen Bros movies 99% white?

pplains, Sunday, 11 October 2015 01:24 (ten years ago)

Even the black guys in their movies like the Eagles.

pplains, Sunday, 11 October 2015 01:24 (ten years ago)

Well, yeah.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 October 2015 02:01 (ten years ago)

Aren't all Coen Bros movies 99% white?

The Coens write almost every script they direct. Don't all the experts say "write about what you know"?

Aimless, Sunday, 11 October 2015 03:55 (ten years ago)

Intolerable Cruelty is far from their best but it is very, very funny

let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Sunday, 11 October 2015 07:38 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

The transfer on the new Criterion disc of Blood Simple is so gorgeous that it has actually made me like the film a bit better than I used to (my first viewing, some 20 years ago, was on VHS, and my second, a decade-ish later, was a TV broadcast). I mean, the difference between a high 7/10 and a low 8/10, but still.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 27 October 2016 18:43 (eight years ago)

Someone needs to redo this poll. Though good luck trying to pick the best of the run from NCFOM TO Hail, Caesar! never mind the previous 25 years.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:03 (eight years ago)

would NCFOM win?

rip van wanko, Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:13 (eight years ago)

A Serious Man would win

Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:14 (eight years ago)

ncfom and a serious man are two of my favorite coen bros films. none of their other films of the last decade come close for me

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:18 (eight years ago)

True Grit was extremely solid, imo.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:44 (eight years ago)

Ah,the only Coen bros film I havent seen

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:50 (eight years ago)

vvg

the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:59 (eight years ago)

ya thoroughly enjoyed it and was thinking of rewatching it again actually

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:47 (eight years ago)

True Grit would definitely be my vote if we were to poll NCfOM onward.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:02 (eight years ago)

nine months pass...

Clooney directs a Coen script from the '90s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYga2m0V2O0

hard to get much of a sense of it from the trailer

Number None, Thursday, 27 July 2017 19:57 (eight years ago)

six years pass...

Hasn't been a post on here for over six years! Does every film get its own thread? That's weird.

Drive-Away Dolls opens tomorrow. Looks kind of like a PTA-Licorice Pizza thing. Will see it soon with guarded optimism.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 February 2024 20:00 (one year ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vy_7UGICJU

clemenza, Thursday, 22 February 2024 20:02 (one year ago)

A newer thread has overtaken this one:

Best Coen Brothers Movie - 2017

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 22 February 2024 20:03 (one year ago)

one year passes...

Every time I watch Blood Simple I have a moment of "how the hell is she renting that cool loft apartment in Williamson County?"

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Thursday, 14 August 2025 05:23 (one month ago)

I wonder how often rep theaters have programmed Blood Simple and Evil Dead 2 together, there are enough shots in the former that feel like homage you could almost think it was the same camera crew/DP behind the scenes.

Lady Sovereign (Citizen) (milo z), Thursday, 14 August 2025 05:26 (one month ago)

Can't tell if you're goofing, but there are lots of connections between Raimi c. Evil Dead and Coens:

After the extensive filming process, Raimi had a "mountain of footage" that he had to put together. He chose a Detroit editing association, where he met Edna Paul, to cut the film. Paul's assistant was Joel Coen of the Coen brothers, who helped with the film's editing. Paul edited a majority of the film, although Coen edited the shed sequence. Coen had been inspired by Raimi's Within the Woods and liked the idea of producing a prototype film to help build the interest of investors. Joel used the concept to help make Blood Simple with his brother Ethan, and he and Raimi became friends following the editing process.

Anyway, here's the investor trailer they cut for "Blood Simple," which literally includes some "Evil Dead" footage, which the Coens were helping Raimi edit, plus apparently Bruce Campbell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTHCKnhFkwM

Sonnenfeld:

I shot the trailer, which featured Bruce Campbell. It took a year to raise the money. We would take a 16mm projector and show the trailer to investment groups full of dentists and people like that. $15,000 got you one percentage point out of 50 available; the other 50 were given as incentives to actors and other people who worked on the film. A multimillionaire inventor friend who came up with the pump used in Windex bottles signed up; my father also got a point. Independent movies are usually a really stupid way to invest your money, but everyone made their $15,000 back many times over.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 August 2025 12:36 (one month ago)

IIRC the Coens and Raimi all met when they attended Camp Herzl in Wisconsin (my Jewish classmates from Conservative families went and also send their own kids; there’s a different summer camp for the Reform kids).

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 14 August 2025 12:45 (one month ago)

Never seen that before, not sure if that would be enough to get me to pony up 15 grand. I expect there was a bit more to the pitch than that.

I wonder if anyone has spoken to the investors to see why they invested and what they thought of the final work.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 14 August 2025 12:48 (one month ago)

They got a donor list from the local branch of Hadassah (the women of which were also responsible for inventing Bundt cake and collaborating with Nordic Ware to design the Bundt tin).

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 14 August 2025 13:10 (one month ago)

Like fellow Minnesota Jew and myth maker, the Coens have been pretty cagey about their origin story, so it's hard to say how much of the fundraising story is true. This was a quote from Joel:

"Sam taught us that if you call on the phone and ask people to invest in a movie they'll tell you to go hell. But if you tell them 'I have a piece of film to show you,' then some of them would let you come into their living room and set up your little projector and show it to them."

I don't think they and Raimi went to the same summer camp, though. Raimi was a Michigan guy. But after Evil Dead, apparently Joel, Ethan, Sam, Frances McDormand and Kathy Bates all lived together in LA, which as far as roommates goes tops Robert Duvall rooming in NYC with Dustin Hoffman and Gene Hackman.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 August 2025 13:34 (one month ago)

IDK where you grew up but Herzl takes campers from the entire upper Midwest (Bob Dylan went there too). A college friend from Michigan hit Raimi up for work experience because he’d been her camp counselor.

einstürzende louboutin (suzy), Thursday, 14 August 2025 22:19 (one month ago)

I totally get that people travel from all around, but every story I've read said that Raimi and Joel met making Evil Dead.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 August 2025 23:00 (one month ago)

It's definitely possible that they both went there but didn't know one another! I think they're five years apart.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 August 2025 23:01 (one month ago)

tbh had no idea Raimi was Jewish!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 August 2025 23:03 (one month ago)

But after Evil Dead, apparently Joel, Ethan, Sam, Frances McDormand and Kathy Bates all lived together in LA

Holly Hunter, too

jaymc, Thursday, 14 August 2025 23:05 (one month ago)


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