fuck the trilemma

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Nevertheless the Bible writers claimed repeatedly that they were transmitting the very Word of God, infallible and authoritative in the highest degree. This is an amazing thing for any writer to say, and if the forty or so men who wrote the Scriptures were wrong in these claims, then they must have been lying, or insane, or both.

and what, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

In a March 1978 letter to a liberal Methodist minister who was skeptical about Christ's divinity—and accused Reagan of a "limited Sunday school level theology"—Reagan argued strongly for Christ's divinity:

Perhaps it is true that Jesus never used the word "Messiah" with regard to himself (although I'm not sure that he didn't) but in John 1, 10 and 14 he identifies himself pretty definitely and more than once. Is there really any ambiguity in his words: "I am the way, the truth and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by me?"… In John 10 he says, "I am in the Father and the Father in me." And he makes reference to being with God, "before the world was," and sitting on the "right hand of God."…

These and other statements he made about himself, foreclose in my opinion, any question as to his divinity. It doesn't seem to me that he gave us any choice; either he was what he said he was or he was the world's greatest liar."

It is impossible for me to believe a liar or charlatan could have had the effect on mankind that he has had for 2000 years. We could ask, would even the greatest of liars carry his lie through the crucifixion, when a simple confession would have saved him? … Did he allow us the choice you say that you and others have made, to believe in his teachings but reject his statements about his own identity?"

and what, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

Fish Cannot Carry Guns

The Black Iron Prison Never Ended

remy bean, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)


The Black Iron Prison Never Ended


hey wait, isn't that some PKD stuff? He was going on in some of the last books about how "the Roman Empire never ended"

kingfish, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

fish cannot carry guns is from VALIS

and what, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

To fake one's own death is the greatest work of art.

sexyDancer, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah. VALIS was one that I never read.

kingfish, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

xp is that 2pac?

and what, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

C.S. Lewis made this argument and REALLY REGRETTED it later on when other logivians refuted it. Though it never showed up in Narnia book, a character uses it in the first 10 minutes of the recent Narnia movie.

Abbott, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

xp it's just a showbiz truth

sexyDancer, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

that said, Jesus of N fell a bit short of the ulimate deed

sexyDancer, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

Star Wars must be real too

Hurting 2, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)


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