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it's always the same person! and they have a yoga mat!

― lfam, Sunday, 22 April 2007 05:05 (eighteen years ago)

I don't understand lateness. I'm rarely late for anything. Most of the time I'm 45min to an hour early. Being late sucks.

― Jeff, Sunday, 22 April 2007 05:18 (eighteen years ago)

virginia tech students who come late are still alive tho

― gershy, Sunday, 22 April 2007 05:21 (eighteen years ago)

People who come 30 mins late for a 50 min class really irk me.

― Michael Servetus, Sunday, 22 April 2007 05:23 (eighteen years ago)

I hate being late and also prefer being extra early. It's more respectful of others to be on time... plus I use time when I'm early going someplace to read in my car for a few minutes. Win/win.

― Sara R-C, Sunday, 22 April 2007 05:28 (eighteen years ago)

gershy kind of otm as usual (EMPHASIS ON 'kind of') i mean why are you coming to class at all srsly

― deeznuts, Sunday, 22 April 2007 05:50 (eighteen years ago)

Took only three posts.

― Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 22 April 2007 05:52 (eighteen years ago)

He was not the first and won't be the last football player to come late to a training session.

He was not the first and won't be the last to make a mistake with the shirt he has to wear to a hotel.

When I have such great role models, it is easy to educate the boy. I could say 'did you see Lampard coming in late, Carvalho training bad or Ballack making a mistake with the shirt?

― 600, Sunday, 22 April 2007 05:54 (eighteen years ago)

I had a bunch of profs who locked the door at classtime so that anyone coming in would be publicly pointed out when he had to go unlock it for them. And one prof who graded down after two instances of being more than 10 minutes tardy. All of which just makes skipping class more attractive, I think.

― Laurel, Sunday, 22 April 2007 06:00 (eighteen years ago)

People who come 30 mins late for a 50 min class really irk me.

Five to ten minutes is alright, but if you are more than 15 minutes late, then I think it would be better to not come at all. It's silly to enter the class anyway as the professor will notice. (Depending on size of class, he won't notice if you didn't coem at all.) I had a professor who didn't even finding a trainstrike a good excuse. Late is late, he said.

I hate being late and also prefer being extra early. It's more respectful of others to be on time...

I find people who are too early to be extremely annoying, especially when you have a party or dinner. It's more annoying than being too late, I think, as there is the chance we (at home) are still preparing. Be on time. Not late, nor early.

― nathalie, Sunday, 22 April 2007 07:38 (eighteen years ago)

Aha!! I know the answer to this, I think. They do that to get attention. Everyone is already seated and looking forward, and they'll all have to watch this person come in late and sit down. This phenomenon was pointed out to me by someone who had taught college for many years. What with the yoga mat prop, it sounds like a real prima donna.

― Rich Smörgasbord, Sunday, 22 April 2007 09:14 (eighteen years ago)

I arrive too early everywhere, though I try not to do that when it comes to stuff like dinner parties, for the reasons Nathalie listed.

I really don't know what the big deal is re: latecomers, tho. They only distract you for a few seconds. Then again, at my uni, it isn't always the same people, and no one has yoga mats.

I had a bunch of profs who locked the door at classtime so that anyone coming in would be publicly pointed out when he had to go unlock it for them. And one prof who graded down after two instances of being more than 10 minutes tardy. All of which just makes skipping class more attractive, I think.

My semiotics teacher makes a big deal of interrupting the class whenever anyone is tardy and loudly proclaiming that said person should talk to him at the end of class and justify their lateness. Skipping's become very popular, yeah.

― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 22 April 2007 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

I used to regularly arrive late to some classes, but it wasn't because I liked the attention or disliked the class. It was because the class was uncomfortably early for me. Actually, I mostly scheduled my classes so this wouldn't be a problem, but that led to other problems. I didn't take Philosophy 101 until my senior year, because it was always offered earlier in the day than I liked. By that point I decided I would just take it anyway. If I had taken it in my freshman year instead of taking it in my senior year (I think it was), I wouldn't have wasted my time being a bored English major.

― Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 22 April 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

I was always late to class. I have some kind of weird anxiety about leaving the house (or dorm room, as the case may be), so now I'm always late to work. I always feel terrible about coming in late, too! but it's either that or not go, and really, it would only make a bad situation worse to skip entirely. though sometimes I do that too. I just got a book specifically on how to deal with this problem.. have tried many times.. it goes back to kindergarten!

― daria-g, Sunday, 22 April 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

I always dropped classes of professors who had an attendance/tardiness policy (unless I absolutely needed it). Screw you, if I miss class once a week but still pass/ace your tests/essays, what does it matter?

I am never late - I'm either on-time (for parties, meeting for dinner) or early (class, work). If I'm going to be late to class I just don't go.

― milo z, Sunday, 22 April 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

i'm late to everyone and it's awesome

― ghost rider, Sunday, 22 April 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

everything. everything

i'm late to sobering up on sunday afternoons.

― ghost rider, Sunday, 22 April 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

This thread topic is just a small offshoot of the more general topic of lateness.

If clocks and time schedules have any beneficial purpose, it is to coordinate the location and activity of multiple people for their mutual benefit. What always puzzles me is that the people who are chronically late to everything are among those people who would benefit from being on time.

When someone is late, they either forfeit a part of this benefit, or else they impose a penalty on all the other people who were not late, thereby singling themselves out as harmful to the interests of the group. You'd think this would eventually outweigh whatever benefits they hope to derive from being late, but in real life it seldom does. Why?

― Aimless, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

dude we're lazy

― ghost rider, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

^^^^ i'm with this guy

― river wolf, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, but even lazy people who are beat with a big ugly stick when they are too lazy start to act less lazy. I guess maybe the stick is not big enough or ugly enough for the effect to take place.

― Aimless, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not lazy. I really can't explain. but frequently when I have to be somewhere at a certain time I start worrying all of a sudden about pretty much everything, from whether I remembered stuff like books, phone, keys to what I'm wearing to the rest of the day's schedule, etc., and then I just get paralyzed and can't leave and soon enough I realize, oh shit! I'm late again!

― daria-g, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

I'm just saying, it's not because I'm lazy and don't care, it's quite the opposite!

― daria-g, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

What's super great is when you're in a couple and one of you is a punctuality freak and the other one is always fucking late for everything ever. Great if you enjoy pointless fights, anyway.

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

Oh god, yeah, that's super great.

― Rock Hardy, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

Do as I do with my wife, who is chronically late: get ready just as you normally would, then grit your teeth - no, wait, did I say that? What I meant to say is, then exercise your patience to the uttermost of your ability.

My own patience gets taken out for long, long bouts of exercise so often that by now it has muscles in its shit. I can outwait a tree sloth with constipation. I can achieve yogic states of alpha wave brain activity that would tranquilize a manic thoroughbred horse on methamphetamines.

Try it. It helps somewhat.

― Aimless, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

it's funny that thread-starter hasn't been inside a classroom in a while (and neither have i. i'm late for this semester).

i give people 5 minutes, if only because not everyone's clocks are synched to each other. otherwise, you are late and disruptive and i don't like you. if it is class time.

late to drinking events, concerts, parties, etc? who cares! everyone should be busy having fun, not worrying about who is not there.

― the table is the table, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

i'm surprised to hear you're married to someone with a chronic lateness problem and haven't considered approaching it in a different way?

― daria-g, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

I'm late for almost everything, and I've been in marching bands, the military, and am about to finish grad school. Whatever "big, ugly stick" they're supposed to be beating the "laziness" out of me with is apparently made by Nerf. Whoever said most of life is showing up never said "on time!"

― TOMBOT, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

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Some days I'm patient, some days she is. Some days we shout at each other in the car. Life's rich tapestry, isn't it?

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

I deal with my wife's chronic lateness by going places by myself and letting the tv keep her company.

― Rock Hardy, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

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― the table is the table, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not lazy. I really can't explain. but frequently when I have to be somewhere at a certain time I start worrying all of a sudden about pretty much everything, from whether I remembered stuff like books, phone, keys to what I'm wearing to the rest of the day's schedule, etc., and then I just get paralyzed and can't leave and soon enough I realize, oh shit! I'm late again!

― milo z, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

My tendency to earliness was a big help the other day when I went to see Grindhouse. I wanted to get to the theater 10-15 minutes before showtime so I could doze for a few minutes in a dark quiet room before the movie. Went to the Malco and was looking at the movie posters as I walked in...didn't see Grindhouse... suddenly realized oh shit, it's playing at the Cinemark, not the Malco! But since I was early, I had time to zip down the street to the other theater in time.

― Rock Hardy, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

what tombot said. In fact I've realized I actually dislike being early, it makes me more anxious than being late. I've been this way since junior high(when it was my mom's fault for driving me to school late GO FIGURE), I know this is bad and something I need to get help for but I'm not a firefighter or anything. Deep down I think I resent any demands on my time, no matter how reasonable. I don't know, like I said it's bad. But hey it'll change when I have children no biggie.

― tremendoid, Sunday, 22 April 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

haha now that I think of it I hate being early cause it means waiting for people who are late. I have learned nothing.

― tremendoid, Sunday, 22 April 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

but you're in l.a. so you can just do what everyone else here does and blame it on traffic.

― get bent, Sunday, 22 April 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

yeah whenever i'm early by 10 (20, 30) minutes it means the other person is going to be 10 (20, 30) minutes late.

― get bent, Sunday, 22 April 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

I think this is kind of a mirror of my earliness. I wind up with dead time because I'm worried that I won't have enough time to do one thing in between two others - so I just don't do it. 'I need to go to the mall to get a pair of shoes but then I might be rushed to get to the restaurant afterward, so fuckit I'll just read for an hour instead and get to dinner five minutes early.'

I blame it on my brother. Dude's been late everywhere for everything for my entire life, and it pisses me off every time, so I don't want to be that guy.

Yeah, I do the same thing. It's not just fitting things in when I'm busy, though. Even if I only have one thing to do in a day, I set aside too much time to get ready and even though I know I'll be early, in that gap between being ready to leave and actually having to leave, I get sort of panicky and just go.

I don't have any siblings, but my father was always late picking me up when I was kid and I think I developed this hyper-concious aversion to making people wait, which would be a good thing if I were showing up on time rather than an hour early and putting myself through what I'm going out of my way to help friends avoid.

― C0L1N B..., Sunday, 22 April 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

I am always 5 minutes late to my proofs class because it is a 15-minute walk from the class I have 10 minutes before.

― Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 22 April 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

but you're in l.a. so you can just do what everyone else here does and blame it on traffic.

i've got too much pride to ever use that, too easy...but I do like the fact that it hangs in the air unspoken as at least part of the excuse. I've got this down to a science, jody.

― tremendoid, Sunday, 22 April 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

it's funny that thread-starter hasn't been inside a classroom in a while (and neither have i. i'm late for this semester).

you outed me! i don't have any great interest in the question; this thread is an experiment. also, i'm late for class a lot.

― lfam, Sunday, 22 April 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

but my tardy yoga mat student is real

― lfam, Sunday, 22 April 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

My poor sainted mother gets soundly ridiculed by my dad (and all of us really) for being the reason they're late to EVERYTHING and it's true that getting out of the house with her is a serious challenge, as Aimless and others have said.

What people (YES, DAD, THAT'S YOU) forget to consider is that for years, she was the only one responsible for having the kids washed and dressed and ready to go. Now she's the one who cleans the kitchen before she leaves it, and remembers to mail the bills out, and makes sure the dog's cage is latched, and puts laundry in the dryer, and checks whether we need milk, AND AND AND. Her work of the home is never done, unlike my dad who's done working on the house for the day when he puts his tools (or the lawnmower, or the engineering work, or the hose, or or or) away. And if she wasn't always doing five things at once, everyone else's quality of life would be different. Would we/they/he get over it? Probably. But I suspect in the long run we should be thankful, and blessedly patient.

― Laurel, Sunday, 22 April 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

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― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 April 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)

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