Would You Date Someone Who Doesn't Drink?

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Option	Votes
Yes. What is liquor in the face of love?	35
No. Can you imagine all those boring nights?	18
Adam Schefter	14
Only if I thought I could mend their ways.	7

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

I turned down a set-up once already this year for this very reason. Well, he also didn't eat meat, which, Jesus Christ, why live at that point? Or as a certain perceptive correspondent responded, "What's next... No sexing? No laughter?"

― Laurel, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

I HAVE DONE THIS AND IT WAS A TERRIBLE IDEA.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

i'm gonna say hell no i won't go (on that date) as well

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, it would probably be good for me. Also, permanent desginated driver.

wait, does s/he not drink b/c s/he is a recovering alcoholic? Probably not then. If they fell off the wagon it would be messy.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

haha i have trouble being friends with people who don't drink enough

― mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

I'm married to a non-drinker - altho she did drink when we first met and for some of the time when we were dating. But she hasn't had a drink in like 8 years or something now. She has other vices that we share tho, maybe that "makes up" for it.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

Also, permanent desginated driver.

OTM.

I guess I could do it if they didn't mind me drinking, but being drunk around sober people sucks.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

nah my wife doesn't care how much I drink. She does get annoyed if we're out somewhere and there's nothing non-alcoholic to drink a la Red Bull or something

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

tell her sparks is just an energy drink

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

ask them to make a cape cod without the vodka! It's a nice little non-drink drink.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

what's in it? she likes ordering weird non-alcoholic things, the bartender's reactions are always illuminating.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

isn't that just cranberry juice?

i've changed my mind on this in the last month or so (when i decided alcohol should not be such a big part of my life) and decided i would date someone who doesn't drink. although it probably would depend on why they didn't drink, and what they thought of me drinking sometimes - it would be hard with someone self-righteous, disapproving, or religiously opposed, because I wouldn't totally quit drinking myself.

― Maria, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

but being drunk around sober people sucks

So does being sober around drunk people, obv, but that's another thread.

My wife drinks very rarely anymore, maybe one or two drinks a year. Not a problem, but it's not a dating situation. If I were starting over, it probably wouldn't be a deal-breaker.

― Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

soda water, cranberry juice and a squeeze of lime. pretty simple. (maybe the cape cod doesn't have soda water but I like the fizzle of it)

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, I have a pretty sub-par alcohol-metabolizing system* and don't drink nearly as much as most people I know, and I'm still a little confused by people who haven't at least sorted out how to do it. (You know, apart from religious or health reasons.) But I feel bad reinforcing Thou Shalt Drink as some kind of cultural norm, so I try to suspend that confusion.

(* Seriously, I spend lots of time just marveling at the incredible alcohol-metabolizing abilities of some people and gene pools, cause even during periods of frequent drinking and decent tolerance, I have got nothing on the average drinker.)

― nabisco, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

I have friends who don't drink. Which is kind of like dating. Some of them are awesome, funny, even when you're drunk and they're not, and totally cool, and drive to boot. Others are whiny sticks in the mud about it and are totally lame to even have a single scotch near. So, it depends on the teetotaler in question.

― Will M., Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not sure what you're saying there Nabisco - confused at people that haven't sorted out how to drink...?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

These days I'm often a tee-totaler when out with my guy. He has no ability to stop while he's ahead and I'm fond of getting us both home safely. More often than not though we stay home and drink, which is the new going out to drink.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

Generally, my behaviour drives people to drink, so it wouldn't be a problem for long.

― John Justen, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

i dont drink :( UNDATEABLE

― sunny successor, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

More often than not though we stay home and drink, which is the new going out to drink.

also ridiculously cheaper!

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

i lived with a girl who RARELY drank (like only at weddings or what not) and it wasn't a big deal. she didn't like it when i drank a lot but she understood that i liked to drink just as i understood that she didn't. it wasn't a big deal.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

I think its weird to assume that someone who doesn't drink is either a) a self-righteous moralizing "I hate fun" type or b) in AA.

There are people who just don't like to drink, or for whom it is detrimental to their health.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

i HATE FUN

― sunny successor, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

meat and drink cause cancer, so you won't hafta bury them.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

shakey, I would not assume either of those things but I would want to know b/c those conditions would change my answer to this question.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

nabisco, as someone who drinks only for effect (except maybe for Stoli Vanil) I envy your piddling metabolic abilities.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

oh yeah totally MM - anyone who's in recovery is obliged to let potential partners know the deal, I think.

I was just talking more generally - like, say, I'm at some office party with my wife and she's not drinking, someone will inevitably notice and make some (usually entirely inaccurate) assumptions about her.

x-post

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

yeah that shit's dumb for sure

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

I have friends I drink with (chilx, mostly) and friends I do not. The latter category includes my girlfriend, and almost all of my oldest friends. They just don't do alcohol. *shrug*

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

xxpost
like she's knocked up?

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

Shakey, I guess I'm thinking less of people who Just Don't Drink (every so often I'm totally one of those) and more of the small subset of people who seem slightly pinched, weird, or uncomfortable about it, and not for health or religious reasons. But like I said, I try not to think of it, because it's dumb to act like someone's abnormal for not wanting to drink! And people acting like they're abnormal is probably a good amount of why they might be pinched and weird and dogmatic about the whole thing.

Ha, just for reference, I'm not kidding about being equally in awe of people who can drink a ton. If it takes X units of alcohol for my brain to get woo-hoo drunk, it takes about X-1 for my body to make me regret it later, so any getting drunk I do stays toward the bottom end of the scale -- the fact that some people can get visibly super-drunk multiple nights a week and bounce back from it okay is totally astounding to me, like watching a snake dislodge its jaw and swallow an entire deer.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

Love the booze math dude.

― nickalicious, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

i have friends i drink with and friends i drink heavily with.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

i don't care if people drink or not. it's a silly thing to get all worked up about, on either side of the argument.

― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

booze math: 5 half liters of schultheiss=start a thread!

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

i would swallow all these deers, drunk

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

the fact that some people can get visibly super-drunk multiple nights a week and bounce back from it okay is totally astounding to me

Wow, i don't think i know anyone who does that. That would be astounding to me, too, but more like witnessing a car wreck.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

One of my good friends does not drink at all, and I do admire his ability to stick to his guns while also not minding when his friends get wasted around him (and still have a good time).

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

I dated a wonderful woman who didn't really like to drink, but she would never talk about it and would always accept a drink and take small sips during toasts etc.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

Uh, Kenan, I can think of people you know who do that.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

really? visibly super-drunk multiple nights a week?

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

I suggest that such balls to the wall drinking does have negative effects, just not neccesarily visible to the casual observer.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

I married a non-drinker who permuted over time into an anti-drinker who got all righteous if I had a glass of wine and who made sneering, embarrassing comments about "beer drinkers". Never again. ymmv.

― Jaq, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

well, twice a week is multiple if you want to get technical. and despite being in a bar every night of the week last week i have not been in one since sunday so cram it.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

wait, who's cramming what?

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe I just get the wrong impression via Chicago thread.

(some of my friends in Milwaukee definitely live like this, though)

xpost, haha, sorry Kevin

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

jaq i <3 your divorce

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

I often go through phases of not drinking and people always think I'm pregnant. I wasn't drinking when I was thrown a going away party at my last job and the whole office thought I was knocked up! It's kind of annoying. When going through a period of sobriety, I think the people I've gone out with feel more uncomfortable about than I ever have.

― ENBB, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

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Huh. For me a little weed has always erm . . heightened things in the bedroom.

― ENBB, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

That's a personal thing though, not necessarily meant to imply that it has had a postitive impact on frequency or performance of partners.

― ENBB, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

No, this guy just got too stoned to want to fuck. :( It helpes me out too, leading to a frstrating heightened desire on my part & reduced on his. ===bad.

― Abbott, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I've been in that particularly unfortunate situation before myself. Not good.

― ENBB, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

It helpes me out too, leading to a frstrating heightened desire on my part & reduced on his. ===bad.

Socially, OK, I may get a little subverbal, but who doesn't get the horn when stoned? It's like the munchies but for pussy.

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

!!!!!

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

Michael, you're such a charmer.

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

Well put, MW, although I'd have expected a better euphemism from you.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

Basically the sleep deprivation is hurting me SO much more than the alcohol

totally 8080... I could get shitfaced, but if I'm in bed by 11, I'm golden. Problem is, if I'm shitfaced, I'll be up until 3. Hey, don't want to miss any of the fun!

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

Michael, you're such a charmer.

*Bows and scrapes*

Why, thank you mademoiselle.

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

Ed, that's not a euphesmism at all, is it? It's merely the plain, unvarnished truth and while I'm at it, it sure smells better on your fingers afterwards than Doritos, doesn't it?

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

I don't feel especially horny when stoned. Not *especially*.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

The plain unvarnished truth would be more biological. Surely there must be a turn of phrase from some latin erotic poetry that would suit, or maybe something from second empire france?

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

For me, it's far too early for such talk Michael.

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

jesus, michael.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 27 April 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

How's this for euphemism, Ed?

Le cannabis tend à inspirer en moi un goût presque démesuré pour une collation de moule barbue.

Actually, I think euphemism grosses me out more than plain talk.

Sorry, ladies. My mind, as ever, is in the, uh, gutter.

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

no, no, it's quite alright, i was just stunned to read that so soon after waking up.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 27 April 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, that hardly conjures images of foppish 19th century love poetry to me.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Chick who doesn't drink dates dude who does drink. Chick sees dude all drunk and shit and can feel superior. Power shift to Chick! Dude can only get drunk and hit chick to regain control. all turns out wrong.

― Gukbe, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

For once I'm not sorry about my lack of French.

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

LOL hairy mussels

― braveclub, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Ed, I know it's First Empire and not exactly foppish, but there are several love letters Napoléon wrote to Joséphine where he expresses a lively desire to revist her 'black forest', though according to everything I've read, Boney's technique was essentially rabbit-fucking.

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

YEs I don't associate him with the greats in the annals of sexual conquest. However The munchies and black forest [gateau] would work out quite well.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://banquetexpress.com.au/banquet/images/imagecache/BlackForest1.jpg

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

Whoops, X-post!

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Where oh where has this thread gone?

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

friday afternoon, that's where.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

hangover prevents me from making a cherry-based joke.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Drinkin' island, already? Chocolate cake and the sexing habits of French emperors, oh my.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

I love that everything I've posted so far this lovely Friday morning is about drinkin', smokin' or screwin' adorned with references to snacks, bivalves and baked goods. Bring on the weekend!

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

amen, brother

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

Mutter mutter mumffle, I'm not likely to have any of those things this weekend. Though Frances is coming round this evening and we are going to go to DRINKIN' ISLAND.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

Michael, it's even earlier where you are than it is for me. You must be in quite a state today.

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

i might get drunk tonight :D

― lex pretend, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

Sam, I'm almost always in this state, I'm just too under-caffeinated to use my 'indoor voice' this morning.

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe we will GET DRUNK AND MAKE PROG. I think this may be the way forward.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

damnit I'd like to be drunk in three places at once tonight.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

A few years ago I'd probably have thought "no" to this question.

Last night I was DJing and some unholy fuckhead kept asking me if I could find him drugs, eventually, after politely telling him to ask people on the dancefloor or something. Then he started offering me cocaine, which made sense, presumably he wouldn't shut up cos he was so coked. He kept on and on, and on, and on, until eventually I just half shouted "I DON'T DRINK OR DO DRUGS OK?"

And then I saw myself. Felt very weird.

As I often say these days, not drinking and not doing drugs makes you feel far more unhinged and disconnected than doing so, at least when all your friends do both regularly.

― Ronan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

sorry I can't post properly today at all...that sentence at the start makes no sense, that's another thing, I now know that the biggest cause of feeling shit is staying up late.

― Ronan, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

DRINKIN' ISLAND

Pray tell, what is this idyllic isle, this Arcadia, this elysian spot of which you speak?

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

Drinkin' island in side each and every one of us, my son.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha, I forgot when I went into hospital this morning I still had my "welcome to drinkin' island" badge on. And one of the surgeons asked me about it. I had to kind of stutter it was a joke, and just a good luck token.

I NEVER DRINK OH NO NO NO, DRINKING IS TERRIBLY UNHEALTHY AND I AM PURE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW NOW GET THIS FREAKING LUMP OFF MY WRIST!

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/452330681_53383e0151.jpg

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

"No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind..."

However, apparently, everyone has their own Drinkin' Island' in them!

Early morning alcoholic metaphysics!!

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

Kate, what happened that they had to postpone your surgery?

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

I now know that the biggest cause of feeling shit is staying up late.

otmfm

― lex pretend, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

I was assaulted by a random mentalist who scratched up the same wrist that was supposed to be operated on. They didn't want to operate for fear of infection until the wounds are healed over, as random mentalists what live on the corner of Tottenham Court Road have not the cleanest of fingernails.

I wish I could find the random mentalist magnet in me, I would turn it off if I could.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

That's awful, Kate.

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

But I am looking on the bright side! I can drink this weekend, which I could not have had I had the surgery today!

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

Silver lining!

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

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