E = m(liar liar pants on fire)^2 (aka LOL MIT)

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/04/27/mit.dean/index.html

What's your take on this?

― HI DERE, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

a D becomes a B so easily. she just got greedy.

― blueski, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://perso.orange.fr/kwik-e-simpsons/wallpapers/nelson-preview.gif

― am0n, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

Don't know what to think. The first two things I thunked were:

- it's three decades ago, FFS! Is she doing her job now? Yes, she has received awards and everything. Leave her alone, you damn scandal-searching/creating media.

- the dean of ADMISSIONS? The one who checks if students are lying on their forms to try and get into MIT? That's not even ironic anymore, she has to pay those 28 years of wages back unless she gets those degrees now.

― StanM, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

Not to play Devils Advocate or anything, but surely if she works in admissions, she would be *better* at spotting resume liars, in an "it takes two thieves to strike an honest bargain" type way? She knows what to look for, since she's done it herself?

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

I hadn't fully completed Kate's line of thought but I was approaching it.

Based on my college experiences from over 10 years ago (sob), elite American schools are all about teaching the students how to bend situations to their advantage and how to cover tracks, not about integrity, so on a fundamental level I don't care at all beyond "haha u got caught", especially since this woman was apparently doing a kickass job.

― HI DERE, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

It's a bit like computer security companies hiring hackers, isn't it?

But I bet thousands of litigation lawsuits from rejected students from over the years are starting up as we speak :-(

― StanM, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

haha hadn't even thought of that angle, wow

― HI DERE, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

I'm waiting on the inevitable Cal Tech prank referencing this.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

This seems to happen somewhat regularly in higher education, especially in minor ways, like claiming a degree you were actually a credit or a thesis short of actually getting. People get away with it in the corporate world, since they just move on from that first job with a legitimate record no one's ever going to check again. But man has this got to be stressful in academia -- working for years and years just praying no one checks things out when you're up for a tenure review?

― nabisco, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

http://starling.rinet.ru/music/sleeves/zap_faust.jpg

― lfam, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

Based on my college experiences from over 10 years ago (sob), elite American schools are all about teaching the students how to bend situations to their advantage and how to cover tracks, not about integrity

Doesn't this relate to, like, everything in life?

The nearest I've got to falsifying my CV is extending periods worked in places - 2 months becomes three, 8 becomes 9, that kind of thing. Pretty low-level fraud (btw hi mr future employer, this was in my naive youth, promise)

― Mark C, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

I thought the MIT in the title was the German word "mit," and LOL MIT was like a new way of saying "laugh with me!"

― Abbott, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

mit's radio station, wmbr, is the best radio station in boston. it used to be called wtbs but ted turner "donated" a ton of money in the 70s and mit "voluntarily" changed their call letters. the fcc doesn't allow for call letters to be commodified.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

why thank you for the compliment! (re: wmbr)

― zaxxon25, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

American schools are all about teaching the students how to bend situations to their advantage and how to cover tracks, not about integrity

"elite" is not necessary since that is entirely made-up bullshit based on tuition prices, the US News & World Report's fabricated shit-for-metrics and the annual application volume

regardless, it applies to all undergraduate programs in the vast majority of the country, which is why we cannot maintain labor competitiveness with Asia or continental Europe (the prices for our time are also a little steep)

I've been told by my own graduate advisor that she's gotten in fights with other graduate professors whose students DISSERTATIONS she ran through turnitin.com and found to be plagiarized. Apparently tenured doctors of engineering and applied sciences would rather let somebody earn their graduate degree without doing any of the work than look a little bit stupid and have to expel somebody

― TOMBOT, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

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