Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

Now the Finns.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7082795.stm

:/

global epidemic spreads unchecked using news media as vector

High school shooting in Finland.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7246003.stm

i mean come on this shit is old now

ffs not again

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7936817.stm

*placeholder for insensitive comment*

I can't get the story to load. Probably for the better. (Sigh)

this one too, alabama

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/10/shooting.alabama/

In summary: At least ten people are believed to have been killed in a shooting spree at a German school. Shooter believed to be a former pupil (oh wait that bit has now been removed). Shooter thought to be in custody.

xpost

10 dead at both shootings on the same day wtf.

15 dead in germany now.
wasnt someone shot at a church in the USA over the weekend too?

http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_gadget.phtml#rt2ig1_1236782715

wait a minute, meant to indicate it's a full moon atm.

wasnt someone shot at a church in the USA over the weekend too?

― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname)

yep

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090309/ap_on_re_us/church_shooting

Also, the economy. Not meant to be flip, btw, but isn't there usually an upswing in this type of crap when the economy tanks? I seem to remember a bunch of workplace shooting lined up with the 90s recession.

i don't think 17-year old Rammstein fans are motivated by the mortgage bubble bursting, jon

17-year old Rammstein fans

classy

It was a general comment, hadn't really delved in the details of any of the stories. I was just wondering about how trends like this tie in with the global economy turning to shit.

There was that one dude who killed his wife and kids and self because he couldn't afford to take care of them all with two jobs and it was mega-sad.

The idea that a man's worth is in his productivity/success and that if HE can't be "successful" then everyone who was his responsibility must cease to exist, is just..........beyond. I can hardly form sentences when I think about this.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/nursing_home_shooting

A NURSING HOME. What do you have to do to be even worse than your average spree shooter? Murder a bunch of helpless fogeys, apparently.

I'm sure this has been said before, but It's kind of disheartening how these mass murders have become an accepted fact of life. This was the 4th story on NPR's hourly news report today. Yeah, there is a lot of stuff going on in the world and maybe this is the forth most important story of the day, but holy shit we've become accustomed to this kind of violence. It barely registers anymore.

There was also a story today about some 17 year old guy who has stabbed one sister and then cut the other (5 years old!) one's head off, in front of a 3rd sister... he was still hacking at the 5 year olds head when the cops got there.

Just... what.

Perhaps, but then again I believe these things have always happened all the time, everywhere, they're just far more publicized now due to 24-hour-news cycles. It's still a sad thing, but people "randomly going nuts" and doing these horrible things is inevitable in every society.

but holy shit we've become accustomed to this kind of violence. It barely registers anymore.

― Super Cub, Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:36 PM

ya some people even think its great (see thread title)

It's still a sad thing, but people "randomly going nuts" and doing these horrible things is inevitable in every society.

Actually, I think there have been societies where murder is
virtually non-existent. Usually these sort of societies have had a very strong social cohesion and a strict set of shared moralities though, with little room for nonconformism. I would assume there's a lot of variation between different countries of the world in the frequency of murder sprees though. It's inevitable in any society that people will go nuts, but the choices of what you do when you go nuts seem to be at least partially influenced by your surrounding culture. And in most Western societies a shooting spree seems to have become one of the "viable" alternatives for action, sadly. In the first school shooting spree in Finland, for example, it was later found out that the killer had some strong fascist/social Darwinist ideas and that he idolized the Columbine shooters.

Actually, I think there have been societies where murder is virtually non-existent

wanna come up with some examples, cause I don't buy this at all / have never heard of such societies outside of the lyrics to 'cortez the killer'. "strong social cohesion" isn't gonna overpower certain mental/psychological disorders that some people are simply born with.

(sorry)

wanna come up with some examples, cause I don't buy this at all / have never heard of such societies outside of the lyrics to 'cortez the killer'. "strong social cohesion" isn't gonna overpower certain mental/psychological disorders that some people are simply born with.

I remember reading in some sociology textbook that certain Buddhist communities in Asia have had virtually no violent crime at all, but I can't find any information on that online right now. I probably shoudln't have used the word "society", since what I was talking about was small, geographically limited communities. Anyway, I don't really think there are any psychological disorders that people are born with, certainly not ones that automatically lead to a murder spree. Or can you name any?

There was also a story today about some 17 year old guy who has stabbed one sister and then cut the other (5 years old!) one's head off, in front of a 3rd sister... he was still hacking at the 5 year olds head when the cops got there.

Just... what.

― one art, please (Trayce), Monday, 30 March 2009 03:46 (8 hours ago) Bookmark

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090330/twl-man-murders-his-sisters-at-birthday-3fd0ae9.html

The policeman broke into the house and witnessed Revelus decapitating five-year-old Bianca, whose birthday cake was on the kitchen table.

Thanks for highlighting that.

Who writes "Anti ICE," seriously? Everyone knows it's FUCK ICE.

yep, it's totally not reight

And also disgusting is there is no expression of remorse for the migrants who were killed.

From the administration

Who writes "Anti ICE," seriously?

Perhaps a member of... Anti-FA?

They’re probably going to say the guy was chanting “acid is groovy. Kill the pigs”

And also disgusting is there is no expression of remorse for the migrants who were killed

Less mouths to feed, they don't give a shit

Favourite anti-ICE slogan?

I’d have to say ‘anti-ICE’ pic.twitter.com/6LNf3FpyPr

— Hon. PolProf of Agile Ceremonies (@CeilNoyle) September 24, 2025

lol

Seeing some more details about the deceased shooter in this incident.. honestly seems like another young, armed, caucasian male crackpot with no clear political ideology, who'd been going off the rails for awhile

Another Rorschach test for pundits, who'll see what they want to see

Why the fuck would this idiot kill the detainees?

Arent ICE detainees in cells inside buildings? How can anyone shoot them from afar? What am I missing.

Maybe an exercise yard or something?

seems like there's just a streak of hardcore nihilism with some of these dudes, especially the ones that off themselves

Law enforcement said that the sniper perched on a roof adjacent to the facility and rained bullets on the migrants as they were being transported in an unmarked ICE van.

see, this:

The alleged shooter's brother reportedly spoke before he knew that his brother had been identified as the sniper, and described him as 'unique' without elaborating.

'I didn’t think he was politically interested,' he continued, saying he had last seen him two weeks before the shooting on Wednesday and nothing seemed unusual.

'He wasn’t interested in politics on either side as far as I knew.'

Really a rather weird one. Whose ideology does this boost? But as you said yeah, the right will just see what they want to see. And "anti ICE" is a genuinely "how do you do fellow kids" level of wtf.

Whose ideology does this boost?

well, there was that kinda informative video last week describing these kids' worlds.. video games, memes, and an insular, insider language.. kinda hard to describe these as 'political violence' when the politics are so murky. I guess more like Sirhan Sirhan than anything else?

Where do these guys get the sniper training? Like playing first person shooters isn’t adequate training?

An increasing number of current events are hard to situate within a coherent narrative.

Also noting it’s yet another white young male but that won’t stop the right wing from demonizing everyone else.

An increasing number of current events are hard to situate within a coherent narrative.

I’ve been getting into Philip K Dick lately, seems like a writer very much for this moment.

With this one it seems like he was deliberately trying to send a contradictory message to confuse people, similar to what happened with tyler robinson at first. Taking human lives to “troll” the media.

hard to situate within a coherent narrative

no, not at all... it's violent leftists, end of story

Who knows what goes through these guys’ heads though.

A bullet in this case.

Multiple people killed at a restaurant in North Carolina yesterday.

https://apnews.com/article/north-carolina-shooting-attack-waterfront-194ad399bbdab604c799c7f60f63ed8c

Mormon church shot up and on fire today in Michigan.

https://apnews.com/article/mormon-church-shooting-michigan-dcb79ee701b0b8076bf73e30e10ba2b7

These things are happening so frequently that they are barely getting any notice.

good morning and happy sunday in the USA

so.... which one do we wanna talk about?

the mormon church in michigan?
southport, NC waterfront bar?
bourbon street in NOLA?
the casino on the mexican border an hour from Uvalde?

xp! sorry moodles

Americans will only “care” if our government and media does, which they don’t. Just the price of freedom, baby.

Apparently the Michigan shooter's pickup (that he drove into the church) was emblazoned with American flags, but I'm sure we'll find out that he had scrawled "antifa" on his bullets.

Also they are middle aged and presumably white men so no hay can be made about how online “gender ideology” has radicalized them or whatever.

both the Michigan shooter and NC shooter are ex-Marines.

Maybe we should be talking about how evil middle aged white males are? A threat to America?

both the Michigan shooter and NC shooter are ex-Marines.

and both served in Iraq

Defunding the VA might possibly have some negative consequences.

the NC shooter sounded like he was completely nuts, had filed dozens of weird lawsuits alleging LGBTQ conspiracies targeting his brain, etc.

See? It’s that dastardly gender ideology confusing a poor patriotic American.

So some guy with a long gun in his car tried to run through the police barricades at the MI church crime scene today. Just weird shit all around

but I'm sure we'll find out that he had scrawled "antifa" on his bullets

Google maps showing he had a Trump poster on his fence in the past, but I doubt the White House will have any comment on this

There are pictures of the MI church shooter wearing a tacky trump shirt

I was expecting some incidents with Trump supporters after all the angry rhetoric these past weeks, but these are strange targets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_terrorism

yup

Trump's main comment about the church shooting was that it was an "attack on Christianity" which is ironic given that a large percentage of his evangelical fan club don't consider Mormons to be Christians at all - including, I'm willing to bet, the perpetrator of the attack himself.

All these Trump fans committing killings for him and he won’t acknowledge them—sad!

They need to etch ‘Thank you for your attention to this matter!” on the bullet casings.

sad lol

well everyone can be all 'this is not about politics! This is about guns!' and there's truth to that, but if the next shooter dared to donate to Red Cross in 2003 he'll be dragged out as a 'radical leftist lunatic'

Better dead than red (cross)!

once we start getting "repeal 2a" on bullet casings and an anti-gun manifesto from a mass shooter, maybe then we'll be getting somewhere