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This movie is fucked up.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

france is gay for sf

― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

Luc Besson wrote the original screenplay when he was in high school.

Yeah, no shit?

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

IT MUST BE FOUND

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

we just rifftrax'ed this movie. it wasn't so good.

― Ai Lien, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

best review of this movie I have encountered was "I have seen the future, and it is really skinny women."

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

IT MUST BE F5OUND

― Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

Police: Are you classified as human?
Korben Dallas: Negative, I am a meat popsicle.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

LUKE PERRY! is in this, for about 10 minutes, but gets really high billing.

― max, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

"I only speak two languages honey: English and Bad English"

― Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

Now I'm just thinking of the band.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/wallpaper/fifth_element-spb_petr-640.jpg

― Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

It's a silly movie. I liked it.

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

I liked that it actually looks like a Heavy Metal/Moebius comic. Everything else about it is so fucking stupid and obnoxious and wrong. Plus Luc Besson is something of an asshole.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

she saves teh world because of LUV!

― Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

RONG:
http://www.kropserkel.com/Images/leeloocm.jpg

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

I was busy typing a response and, alas, could not rescue my eyes as they melted and ran down my face.

― Deric W. Haircare, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

it's less of a movie than it is a futuristic couture runway show, but I really enjoy its excesses and I don't really hate Bruce Willis in it

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

I love this movie and everyone who doesn't clearly hates fun and should be destroyed by Bruce Willis.

― jessie monster, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

are some of the extras famous in france or something? i remember getting a wierd feeling in some of the framing, like the way it would linger a little over a mechanic if he was played by a nascar driver.

― gff, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

Of all the art direction, really loved best the clockwork aliens right at the beginning; they look like they were unused props from RETURN TO OZ or something

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I kinda love this movie. Chris Tucker's finest performance.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

gary oldman! w/ the plastic headpiece & iridescent waistcoat!

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

and the southern accent!

― jessie monster, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

it's basically a george w. bush accent ... prescient!

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

I just saw this for the first time. It's a glorious terrible mess.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

It's hard to gauge how much of the humor is intentional.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

I understand you kidz doting on awful movies that are brand-new, but why this?

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

I am not doting on it, I just think it's interesting.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

i like how colorful this movie is

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

morbs 90s nostalgia is already in high gear

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

ah, like 80s nostalgia it's only gonna celebrate the shit

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

that's why it's "nostalgia". otherwise it's "canon".

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

Also, Morbs, notice all the things I confess to liking about this movie have nothing to do with the storytelling and everything to do with costuming and aristic direction.

It's not a "film," it's not even a "movie," but it's a hella good "flick."

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

It's funny.

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

I can't see how the narrative/storytelling in this are any worse than in any one of the million ordinary movies film-lovers on this board are content to enjoy -- am I missing something?

I dunno: I think it's funny, colorful, visually interesting, full of fun cartoonish characters and details, good with its action bits ... I suppose the ending is a bit cornball, but I'd say all that's really missing is painting Bjork blue to play the diva. It kinda reminds me of those "You Are an Intergalactic Spy" puzzle books I was talking about on some other thread a while back.

Am I missing some narrative issues here, or are people projecting some strange expectations onto this? E.g., speculating that the humor may be "unintentional" seems really off -- this spends like half of its time being a comedy! I mean, the monks are practically Three-Stooging it throughout!

― nabisco, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

I agree completely with elmo - it looks good (albeit completely borrowed from other non-film sources, but that's okay) but everything else about it is a disaster.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

i also kinda love this movie and have seen it a few times over the years and will see it a few times more. i really like bruce willis in it! in this awesome repulsion/attraction way

nabisco... otm

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

the first 45 min are the best though, esp the taxi stuff

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously, details on the "disaster" part? Maybe it's just cuz I think 95% of major motion pictures are narrative-challenged, but I can't tell the difference between this and anything else of its type.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not really bagging on the storytelling, nabisco, but the story is not why I'd choose to watch it again, the visuals are much more compelling for me.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

When Oldman forgets the stones on the ship and has to go back - that is funny.

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

I love when all hell is breaking loose after that blue woman thing got killed and Ruby is freaking out @ exploding grenades.

― nickalicious, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

AUTOWASH

― nickalicious, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

MMMM CHIK-EN

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

Multipass

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

I did find it kinda hokey when Leeloo types in "W-A-R" into her mac book and the tear-jerking montage she pulls up culminates in an ATOMIC MUSHROOM CLOUD. I mean, we are many many centuries into the future here, surely more abominable means of mass murder have been perfected, right?

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

well nabisco a bunch of things I don't like about it have already been cited as other people's favorite so I dunno how productive its gonna be for me to say that I have never enjoyed Bruce Willis's smug-but-lovable-asshole routine in anything ever, or that I find Chris Tucker's emasculated-black-man-freak character just gross, or that the dialogue is all by and large totally laughable ("Me Leloo - supreme being!"), or that Gary Oldman as a sci-fi southern gentleman is unconvincing (what's the point of making him southern, again?), or that the plot's central theme of "love saving the universe" doesn't interest me in any way....

In a larger sense, maybe its that I like my sci-fi films to have some content that reflects on the present in some unusual or illuminating way. This one is just empty - a lot of eye candy and self-conscious dialogue about how ridiculous all the eye candy is and that's pretty much it.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

Mull - tee - pass

― zaxxon25, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha omg I'd forgotten about the WAR montage. This movie fucking rules.

― Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

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while we're talking about 90s sci-fi movies, what about sphere

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

worst movie ever

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

oh that movie was so great/terrible!

― plax (ico), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

it totally flipped the script and conformed to YOUR expectations....and fears

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

"look its not reflecting us!"

― plax (ico), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

i would be totally okay with a judge dredd reboot, fwiw

― ullr saves (gbx), Tuesday, January 25, 2011 7:08 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

you're getting your wish, they're shooting it now in south africa with karl urban as dredd

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

i would be totally okay with a judge dredd reboot, fwiw

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:08 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

yall know this is occurring, right?

― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

The first image of Karl Urban as Judge Dredd has gone online. Actually, it’s the first image of Karl Urban’s lower-face an that’s all of his visage that you’ll see in the movie since the character won’t be removing his helm

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

iirc sandra bullock was pretty good in demolition man as well, kind of a decent amusing role.

― omar little, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

kind of a decent amusing role.

pretty sure this describes like 90% of her work, right

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

sandy's sort of underrated as an actress even with the oscar, luv her imo

http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/images/2010/11/judge-dredd.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2011/01/judgedreddcycle.jpg

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

"look its not reflecting us!"

― plax (ico), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:13 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

For crappy Crichton adaptations I'd rather go with Congo. Way sillier plus you can actually see what's happening in the movie.

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:16 (fourteen years ago)

The first image of Karl Urban as Judge Dredd has gone online. Actually, it’s the first image of Karl Urban’s lower-face an that’s all of his visage that you’ll see in the movie since the character won’t be removing his helm

will believe it when I see it.

I recall a huge deal being made at the time over Hugo Weaving not taking his mask off in V for Vendetta (movie still sucked btw)

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:16 (fourteen years ago)

oof those stills are kinda...80s looking.

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:17 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.toplessrobot.com/judge_dredd_1994_reference.jpg

― dayo, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:17 (fourteen years ago)

eh its not a big budget movie - the bike reminds me of mad max weirdly

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:18 (fourteen years ago)

oof those stills are kinda...80s looking.

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:17 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i wouldn't have it any other way tbh

― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

thats exactly what came to mind

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i think i might actually like it if its kinda budget/80s/non-CGI looking? the comics themselves are such a product of the 80s (at least in my recollection) that i'd respect an aesthetic choice that harkened back to a grungier look

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:21 (fourteen years ago)

yeah judge dredd wearing flannel & shit

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:21 (fourteen years ago)

that was the 90s.

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:23 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.carolineglick.com/e/loser.jpg

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:23 (fourteen years ago)

i was going with the "grungier look" part of your sentence jeez dude

plus Sub Pop/grunge got started 88-89

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:25 (fourteen years ago)

NOT THAT IT MATTERS

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:25 (fourteen years ago)

ps i know, guy

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:26 (fourteen years ago)

what's your glitch, fellas

― omar little, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:32 (fourteen years ago)

lolz

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:35 (fourteen years ago)

SO is a genre movie a movie that is at least partially/implicitly about other movies of its kind, like pulp fiction (xp -- yeah like notenough says)? is chinatown one of these, though? it seems to have too much else on its mind to really bother with french-critic-style cinema reference. there's the venetian blinds (xp -- haha) and faye dunaway's eyebrows, but every movie makes stylistic decisions and most movies are influenced by other movies.

i guess i'm still a bit baffled by this question. we know what genre films are, right? the one thing we can comfortably say about genres is that they are heavily codified and their conventions are a common language. because the formal rules that define these genres are so explicit and well understood, it's usually fairly easy to recognize the films that play with or within them. given a working familiarity with the conventions of noir private eye and science fiction films, we're likely to recognize that chinatown and 2001 do belong, more or less, to those genres. the fact that neither film is wholly confined by the usual concerns and strategies of its respective genre doesn't make make it a non-genre piece. it's not like chinatown and 2001 really explode or transcend the confines of genre, they simply think expansively within it.

you could look at this in reverse (as you suggest) and say that, yes, genre films are in a sense about genre, and about their precedents within the genre. in working within a set of formal conventions, genre films necessarily critique those conventions and comment on what it is to be a thing of that genre. this diminishes the distinction between "straight" genre films and revisionist pictures that make their critique of genre more explicit.

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 02:10 (fourteen years ago)

i don't really wish anyone would jump into a vat of acid, for the record

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 13:01 (fourteen years ago)

Dune is more unintentionally hilarious

― =(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:52 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Yes.

It is at least a little awesome though because it has a pug in it.

I don't know what's worse, the fact that OL might have used "glitch" as a Reality Bites reference or the fact that I know enough dialogue from RB that I either picked up on or read too much into it.

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 14:29 (fourteen years ago)

seven months pass...

Just rewatched this again for the first time in who knows how long and basically had forgotten how ridiculously perfect it is. Also I'm very surprised nobody's singled out the lead general on the thread yet, in that he was played by Brion James...who played Leon the replicant in Blade Runner.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 September 2011 05:33 (thirteen years ago)

These were back-to-back on SyFy about a month ago and I watched them both without catching that.

― kkvgz, Monday, 12 September 2011 00:24 (thirteen years ago)

Aw I wanna watch it now.

― your mom the burrito (ENBB), Monday, 12 September 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

yeah the fifth element is totally unfuckwithable

― dayo, Monday, 12 September 2011 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

best movie

― ice cr?m, Monday, 12 September 2011 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

It was on TV about 2 weeks ago and Just rewatched this again for the first time in who knows how long and basically had forgotten how ridiculously perfect it is. was pretty much the case.

I loved this as a serious action movie as 10 year old, detested it as a reactionary, destroy-all-mass-culture teenager, and as a 23 year old love it as an insanely fun and funny movie. In fact, I was thinking up all sorts of Flohston paradise references earlier today.

P.S. http://www.jimbo.info/weblog/2009/05/20/3358g1v.jpg.gif

― Pee Wee Hermeneutician (EDB), Monday, 12 September 2011 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

RUBY RHOD 4 EVER <3 <3 <3

― Pee Wee Hermeneutician (EDB), Monday, 12 September 2011 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

This is sort of hypnotic to watch, also:

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lli26ixjjM1qa6ql2o1_500.gif

― Pee Wee Hermeneutician (EDB), Monday, 12 September 2011 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

*_*

― ice cr?m, Monday, 12 September 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago)

Quiver ladies, quiver... He's going to set the world on fire.

― Pee Wee Hermeneutician (EDB), Monday, 12 September 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago)

s0 dope

― Lamp, Monday, 12 September 2011 02:00 (thirteen years ago)

Saw this in theaters. Fucking loved it. Own it on DVD - it was actually paired with Gattaca for like $8, in a bin by the cash register at a grocery store I no longer shop at.

― that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 12 September 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

I just saw this for the first time!! SO MUCH FUCKING FUN

― walk in the room they throwin Sade left to right (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 3 June 2013 04:51 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

this movie is rotten with halloween costume opportunities

This is true. You all have a month and a half.

ANYWAY

http://io9.com/luc-besson-still-wants-to-make-another-fifth-element-1304352611

Not a sequel, just another film in the same vein.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 September 2013 02:41 (eleven years ago)

multipass

― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Friday, 13 September 2013 02:55 (eleven years ago)

three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGvm9zttV8&feature=youtu.be

― nomar, Friday, 16 June 2017 22:24 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGvm9zttV8

― nomar, Friday, 16 June 2017 22:24 (eight years ago)

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― Dr Morbius, Thursday, May 3, 2007 10:22 AM (ten years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

― sleepingbag, Friday, 16 June 2017 22:26 (eight years ago)

According to Napoleon Bonaparte, the fifth element is mud.

― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 17 June 2017 03:44 (eight years ago)

six years pass...

Uh-oh.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66407099

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 August 2023 18:47 (one year ago)

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