Cabaret

See yesterday's instalment of Anthony's Minnelli madness

Moulin Rouge uses the old fashioned rules of the musical, perhaps overdoing it with the update homage. Hedwig and the Angry Inch on the other hand I felt was more like it, lacking the degree of self- consciousness I got in MR. And again (damnit) Hedwig was a stage play first.

I may need to examine this angle further.

In other news, Molly Fucking Ringwald is Sally in Cabaret here in town.

In other OTHER news, Tiffany is in Playboy sometime soon.

One is the backstage musical, where it's supposed to make sense that they burst into song because there's no bursting, really - the musicals are about people who sing and dance so we just see them singing and dancing sometimes. The second kind keeps the division between narrative and numbers but tries to come up with junk to make the moves between them plausible. The third eliminates the problem by setting the musical in for example a place or time where it's supposed to be more plausible that people naturally burst into song (the innocent past, cozy little towns, etc.).

Now, I don't know anything about musicals, but I got the impression that there are lots of good examples of all three of these - including the second kind, before the death of the musical even. Is this not the case?

Sheesh! And there was me just thinking it was a Sting reference.

I 'was in' an amdram production of this in around 1992 or so. I believe the stage play has 'gay' and 'not gay' versions, of which we did the latter. The version I saw on TV with Jane Horrocks was the former. But not that different.

For the record, the film songs "Money money money" and "Maybe This Time" were not part of the stage play, and would have cost a small fortune to have included (copyright fees blah...)

Liza rocking a red headband at TCM screening/Q&A with Joel Grey, Michael York:

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2012/04/cabaret_liza_ga.php

BluRay out.

Saw this for the first time in years tonight -- splendid print at MoMA -- and it's really amazing how good Minnelli is; even the gestures that hardened into her shtick later seem fresh. "Tomorrow Belongs to Me" gets a little too messagey, then Fosse cuts in Joel Grey grinning.

I forgot how little Helmut Griem is in this -- surely if it had been made 20 years later we'd see maximilian and Brian humping instead of exchanging looks of self-loathing. And Fritz Wepper and especially Marisa Berenson are quite good in the non-decadent skein.

First saw it on network TV in 1975, when "Screw Maximilian" "I do" "So do I" was snipped out.

Christpher Isherwood objected to seeing his creations, Sally Bowles and the other Kit Kat Klub entertainers -- well, mostly Joel Grey -- being so good in a Berlin dive. It seems to me there are 3 solutions to this:

1. it's a representation of how the characters see themselves

2. it's a necessary stylistic dissonance bcz people don't watch musicals with bad performers

3. stfu and enjoy the show

(Fosse did recruit West Berlin musicians and rehearse them until they were "bad in the right way")

I'd seen it a couple of times over the last decade, but couldn't take my eyes off it when it popped up on TCM a few months ago.

Hey, Joel Grey just came out:
http://www.people.com/article/joel-grey-gay-cabaret

Modern Maturity doesn't do hot-potato interviews

next: Michael York

it's really amazing how good Minnelli is; even the gestures that hardened into her shtick later seem fresh. "Tomorrow Belongs to Me" gets a little too messagey, then Fosse cuts in Joel Grey grinning.

I forgot how little Helmut Griem is in this -- surely if it had been made 20 years later we'd see maximilian and Brian humping instead of exchanging looks of self-loathing. And Fritz Wepper and especially Marisa Berenson are quite good in the non-decadent skein.

this is all otm, was better than I remembered it honestly. Joel Grey is incredible, just alternately creepy as hell and totally hilarious

Having just seen this for the first time, may I say...holy shit. Floored.

Is it actually and in fact a horror film, or is that simply an artifact of viewing it in this particular political moment?

Hell of a thread, posting iy here for a reason:

My Grandpa Dave told me he was sure he was gay when he was moving into his dorm room freshman year of college and there was a boy “with the prettiest eyes;” after Grandpa passed, I learned from my mother who that boy was. pic.twitter.com/DTYw6sKFmZ

— Sama’an Ashrawi (@SamaanAshrawi) June 5, 2022

Yeah that's a great story.

Wow.