2008

I vote Newt Gingrich. For the name.

I'm gonna vote for Rumored candidates. They are so mysterious!

This has to be a poll from another conservative site. One would think a "Draft Nader" campaign would have less traction among lefties than one to draft Alan Keyes.

From Bush to Koch?

haha wait I didn't see this option:

* Former Representative Cynthia McKinney of Georgia

KUCINICH/GRAVEL 08

srsly though, so many options and i don't know whether to pick seriously, or for the LOLs, or randomly, or vote for one of the "headers" :/

This has to be a poll from another conservative site.

Gee, ya think? I mean, given that E's c/p is from crazy righty sites/emails about 99% of the time?

sympathy "Cranky Old Man" vote for Gravel.

This has to be a poll from another conservative site. One would think a "Draft Nader" campaign would have less traction among lefties than one to draft Alan Keyes.

-- kingfish, Thursday, June 7, 2007 5:09 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

This has to be a poll from another conservative site.

Gee, ya think? I mean, given that E's c/p is from crazy righty sites/emails about 99% of the time?

-- J0hn D., Thursday, June 7, 2007 5:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008 bitches

* Author Artist James John Prattas of Hawaii

I predict "Rumored Candidates" wins it in a walk.

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Please see the discussion on the talk page.

i'm voting Biden

anyhow I voted Richardon, just looking at that guy's face completely cracks me up now

so, out of curiosity though: is there anybody on this list, anybody at all, about whom anybody here feels genuinely enthusiastic? like, "hell yes, that'll make an excellent President"? or is everybody like "ok I can probably vote for x, y or z without throwing up, so that's who gets my marble"

it's a mötley crüe alright.

i'd be excited if the Republican nominee was Ron Paul and the Democratic Kucinich

John I've never felt "genuinely" enthusiastic about any presidential candidate except insofar as I thought they could beat the bad guys - I don't think that should be any kind of yardstick as to their potential effectiveness/competence/progressiveness as president, though - these are politicians we're talkin about here

I mean, we don't live in the kind of world where Marian Wright Edelman or Martin Luther King run for president, you know?

i just want interesting candidates. can you imagine how boring hilary/romney debates would be?

I love Barack Obama, Jr. unreservedly and would follow him anywhere or purchase from him major civic landmarks.

why?

The new Democrat faith-mongering almost makes me want to vote for some atheist conservative. Are there any running?

* Author Artist James John Prattas of Hawaii

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

not as a yardstick Trace I'm just genuinely curious & politically permanently immature - I'll vote for whoever, I just wonder whether everybody else is as "ok, I guess this asshole's a little less likely to fuck everything up even further" as I am

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I am honestly kinda genuinely enthusiastic about Obama. Altho the Democrats' recent pathetic congressional performance gives me pause.

ok Prattas is good for many, many lulz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZsT-X3dVWI&mode=related&search=

The new Democrat faith-mongering almost makes me want to vote for some atheist conservative. Are there any running?

-- Hurting 2, Thursday, June 7, 2007 5:52 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Darby

shakey mo you can't actually be surprised about the dem congress

you can be disappointed but not surprised

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yes, following politics is an excercise in perpetual disappointment and betrayal

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probably the only candidate with a decent record collection

Former Sen. Carol Moseley Braun-- "You Gotta Be," Des'ree.

Al Sharpton-- "Talking Loud, Saying Nothing," James Brown. He called it "James Brown's song about the Republican Party."

Sen. John Edwards-- "Small Town," John Mellencamp.

Sen. John Kerry -- "No Surrender," Bruce Springsteen.

Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean -- "Jaspora," Wyclef Jean.

Sen. Joe Lieberman --"Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow," Fleetwood Mac; "My Way," Frank Sinatra.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich -- "Imagine," John Lennon.

Rep. Dick Gephardt -- "Born in the USA," Bruce Springsteen.

Sen. Bob Graham -- "Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes," Jimmy Buffett.

haha

Former Sen. Carol Moseley Braun-- "You Gotta Be," Des'ree.

president lex??

Gov. Bill Richardson - "Microwaved Uterogestation," Carcass

I'm Hillary-leaning right now. She seems to have the best combination of experience, competence, intelligence, toughness and general belief in stuff I also believe in, even though I don't find her eminently *likable* or *inspiring*. I really don't care if we get someone inspiring right now.

I voted for Barack Obama, because I like Barack Obama.

I like him too, but that's not enough for me. Obviously I'd vote for him in a heartbeat if he got the nomination, but I have more confidence in Hillary's ability to make a good president right now.

I guess there's an argument to be made for some kind of inspiring healer-person as president to get us out of our malaise. But my guess is we're not going to be completely coming out of our malaise next term no matter what - at best we'll just begin to recover.

political dynasties = DUD.

that and the war are the main reason I find Hillary nigh intolerable.

But we can never know whether Obama would have voted to authorize the war had he been in the senate.

KUCINICH/GRAVEL 08

I'm down with this.

which is too bad if youd rather have a self-indulgent courageous wingnut like paul instead of actual good policy & governing

cynthia mckinney is frequently self-contradictory & needs to chill with the anti-israel shit, but so heroic in so many ways - campaigning to declassify files on 9/11 & the assassination of MLK, working for union & miners rights in africa, encouraging american distribution of international news instead of domestic propaganda, challenging sexism & racism in the house, & quoting pac while speaking at king memorial last year. her principles are a huge asset to congress & and im proud to say she represents GA.

-- +++++, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:40

gore > richardson > obama > ... lots of other people ... > hilary

Gore would still be my first choice if he ran.

I actually didn't notice him as an option in the poll.

richardson '08! we need a fat guy back in the white house.

why do lefties love a gulf war-supporting southern baptist creationist who isnt actually smarter than the big 3 dem candidates?

which one is that

gore > richardson > obama > ... lots of other people ... > hilary

-- remy bean, Friday, June 8, 2007 3:36 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Gore would still be my first choice if he ran.

-- Hurting 2, Friday, June 8, 2007 3:45 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Link

http://blog.antidelusionist.com/2007/04/23/al-gores-slideshow.aspx

The slide I found particularly interesting/shocking/sad, was his new(?) slide containing a graph of human population growth over the past couple hundred-thousand years. It started off good. He pointed at the beginning of the graph, showing the population of humans on Earth from 200,000 years ago, and referred to the "rise of humans."

Cool beans. So he believes that Homo sapiens evolved from other hominid ancestors, right? Nope. In the very same breath, he then continued to explain that according to his religious beliefs, this "rise of humans" was God's creation of mankind - apparently 200,000 years ago. His graph then changed to include the caption "Adam & Eve" above this starting point.

ah, didn't think he was a Southern Baptist anymore.

Whoa, that's bizarre. When he said he thought God and evolution could co-exist, I always assumed he just meant in a vague "God is the prime mover" sort of way.

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660227786,00.html

if you believe in god, you believe god created people, so the moment that homo sapiens comes on the stage would kind of hafta be the moment god created people.. am i missing something?

and i dunno, gore isn't "smarter" than edwards, clinton or obama? he was righter than they were about the war, earlier; he was righter than they were about the environment, WAY earlier

i'm still pissed about his support of gulf war I but then again his dad got voted out of congress mainly because of his opposition to the war in vietnam - plus iraq actually had invaded another country at that point

(um not in 1970)

you dont think its hypocritical to be smugly championing your book about the 'assault on reason' while allowing that creationism should be taught in public schools?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article1026182.ece

Even his Democratic rival Al Gore, who had acquired a reputation as the “Mr Science” of the Clinton administration, seemed reluctant to disturb this spurious equilibrium. On hearing the news from Kansas, candidate Gore said that although he personally favoured the teaching of evolution, “localities should be free to teach creationism as well”.

i find his shameful pimping for NAFTA 1000x more deplorable than any Adam & Eve nonsense he's advocating

also, how is gore "righter" on the war than obama?

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you dont think its hypocritical to be smugly championing your book about the 'assault on reason' while allowing that creationism should be taught in public schools?

I tend to agree that creationism etc. should go ahead and be taught (as a belief) right alongside real science so that kids realize how fucking stupid and ridiculous ID is

Richardson [re. mulish foreign relations]:

This president characterizes this--being stubborn isn't a foreign policy. And power without diplomacy is blank. I would focus my presidency on dealing with the real threats to America. International terrorism, nuclear proliferation. I've dealt directly with North Korea, & made the situation better. I would deal with issues like Darfur. Why is it that America does not care about Africa, about genocide, about issues relating to enormous amount of deaths that are brought forth by international poverty?

"The real Romney is clearly an extraordinarily ambitious man with no perceivable political principle whatsover. He is the most intellectually dishonest human being in the history of politics."

I tend to agree that creationism etc. should go ahead and be taught (as a belief) right alongside real science so that kids realize how fucking stupid and ridiculous ID is

Creationism is a philosophy while evolution is a theory resulting from scientific enquiry. As a result, creationism has nothing to do with science, although the philosophy department of your local public high-school may wish to include it as a counter-point to their discussion of existentialism.

Any candidate who does not understand what science is does not belong in the whitehouse, and that's the end of the argument. Haven't you all had enough with Bush not funding condom use in Africa because it's not in the bible?

Sam Brownback (link here http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/31/opinion/31brownback.html?ex=1181966400&en=7d2298929cd17168&ei=5070) and Gore are therefore off the table.

As for Gore being "right" about the environment, I hate to break it to you but his slideshow is not particularly representative of the scientific research.

By the way I'm sick of all the Republicans. This guy Ron Paul is a "libertarian," except he opposes gay marriage and abortion, etc. So, he wants us to have the freedom to do what we wants, unless it makes him feel icky. That would be "republican," and it's a tired song. As for McCain, why does he have to meet with religious leaders? Fuck that.

I'm leaning toward Biden or Richardson for sure.

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seriously wtf put in for thompson

kinda surprised to see such inequity in votes for the three frontrunners

inequality, even

errrr well you guys know what I mean

I hope Rebecca Rotzler is ashamed of herself.

who else voted Biden?!

author artist james john prattas was robbed

seriously i voted for him what happened

i robbed him and gave his vote to ron paul.

big hoos aka the steendriver that joke is what's called "reaching" in the trade

Where are all the Republicans? Is it because ILXOR isn't in the bible?

yeah i regretted it right away xpost

kudos to the people who voted Cynthia

how great would it be if wesley clark got the nomination

Yay Obama!

Ugh. This is depressing.

Rock the vote, and Clinton in '96!! .. unless Gerry Brown runs again.

http://wnbc.weatherplus.com/slideshow/13212749/detail.html?qs=;s=10;w=320

I'm having some sort of Florida Ballot problem understanding the way that the numbers line up with the results. Unless "potential candidates" was an option. Several times over.

* Representative Ron Paul of Texas 1
* Senator John McCain of Arizona 1
* Ralph Nader of Connecticut (rumored candidate. A "Draft Nader" effort has begun among some Greens.) 1

If I had been around I would have voted for Mitt for the lulz.