Can it be anything but selfish and demanding to actually say "I love you very much" to someone you who is your friend, whose friendship you want to keep and are theoretically willing to abandon all hope of any other kind of relationship in order to do so, whom you love and are also in love with, who is not in love with you? Because I think I might die or go completely insane if I don't say this, but I also think I might die or go completely insane if I were to ruin the friendship, and I don't think I'm up to constructing a complex verbal space that bears a distant and skewed relation to reality in which it would be possible for me to say that without fear and purely as a no-strings-attached gift. I'm so caught in my emotions about this that I'm having a hard time imagining myself into the other person's position. He sort of knows how I've felt, but he thinks I'm over it. I seriously don't think I'm ever going to be over it. So far I've just about been able to cope without totally losing my mind, but I can't continue like this. I tried not being in touch with the person but that didn't work, and he wanted us to be friends, plus I now live practically next door to him (for unrelated reasons). So based on this sketchy account, should I keep my trap shut and try to suck it up, or say it (possibly with a bunch of disclaimers)? Your thoughts, please, if any.
― ctrl-s, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:18 (eighteen years ago)
Just be honest & tell the truth. The reply will probably hurt, but at least you'll both know and you'll be able to cope with the truth instead of acting as if it doesn't exist.
― StanM, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:21 (eighteen years ago)
you have to tell him
― lfam, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:22 (eighteen years ago)
Shit.
― ctrl-s, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:23 (eighteen years ago)
Oh shit.
no doubt, you'll really regret it if you don't
― lfam, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:24 (eighteen years ago)
Did you really expect us to tell you to keep it to yourself and lie to you both?
― StanM, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:24 (eighteen years ago)
it's hard, stan
― lfam, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:25 (eighteen years ago)
but really, no one ever dies saying "i wish i had done less in pursuit of love"
― lfam, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:26 (eighteen years ago)
I know, I've been there. But at least we're still friends and I'm even friends with her boyfriend. I'm @ peace with it & glad we talked about it.
― StanM, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:27 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah a good friendship will usuall endure such a declaration. As long as, if you get the answer you DONT want, you dont then mess shit up by pursuing it any further/being clingy. I wish I'd worked THAT one out years ago heh. Tho in fairness Ive never fallen in love with male friends. My male friends are friends BECAUSE I am not attracted to them.
Also lfam OTM. Love is always worth pursuing.
― Trayce, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:37 (eighteen years ago)
FOR THE RECORD THIS THRED WAS NOT STARTED BY ME INCOGNITO
/king emo
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:41 (eighteen years ago)
<i>If you get the answer you DONT want, you dont then mess shit up by pursuing it any further/being clingy. </i>
I feel that I have already gotten the answer I don't want, subtly, but nothing has ever been said so directly. I don't entirely trust myself not to mess shit up by pursuing it further, short of completely cutting off all communication, and wonder if this statement would amount to exactly that; but a) I've never actually said it or anything like it to him, and b) no matter what happens I really want him to know how much I love him, AND BUT c) again, I would do and give anything not to ruin the friendship. He seems not to have been particularly rattled by anything that has gone down so far, and I think really wants for us to be friends.
― ctrl-s, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:44 (eighteen years ago)
i think you should tell him, but just lay it all out, like you've done here: tell him that you love him in a romantic kinda way, but that it's the friendship from which this love has sprung that is more important than anything else, and that you just wanted to make your feelings clear because you're such good friends. yes, it may cause awkwardness, but i think if you emphasise that the friendship is so dear to you it will ease that awkwardness.
and you never know - it's always possible your friend has similar feelings.
― Rubyred, Saturday, 9 June 2007 04:52 (eighteen years ago)
Postscript: I finally told him, just recently, and it is working out in surprising and very nice ways. My very best wishes to all who posted above.
:)
― ctrl-s, Thursday, 20 September 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)
(In other words, Rubyred's last sentence OTM.)
Aw! Thanks for the postscript!
― jaymc, Thursday, 20 September 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)
ooh that makes me very happy :)
― Maria, Thursday, 20 September 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)
Still going strong 2 1/2 years later. <3.
― ctrl-s, Saturday, 20 February 2010 01:20 (fifteen years ago)
awwwwww shucks
this story made me kinda happy
― lukevalentine, Saturday, 20 February 2010 01:26 (fifteen years ago)
awesome thread, thanks.
― ere, Saturday, 20 February 2010 01:57 (fifteen years ago)
Damn, I thought this said Desperate Elmo Question.
― Evan, Saturday, 20 February 2010 02:41 (fifteen years ago)
wow.
― f1ocki (s1ocki), Saturday, 20 February 2010 03:30 (fifteen years ago)
ctrl-sock ;)
― shite new answers (cutty), Saturday, 20 February 2010 04:07 (fifteen years ago)
No sockpuppet. this is on the real.
― ctrl-s, Saturday, 20 February 2010 04:32 (fifteen years ago)
I love you stan
― CaptainLorax, Saturday, 20 February 2010 04:37 (fifteen years ago)
oh! okay, no sock here, this is the table is the table speaking.
so....
i'm in a weirdly similar boat right now. i'm in love with this person. he also clearly has feelings for me, as when we haven't seen each other for a few days (we're both kind of busy in different ways), he calls or we ignore our work and chat on the gmail or fbook for hours. we lend each other books and clothes. we make out every so often.
on valentine's day, when i was blacked-out drunk at this punk show, i told his best friend (and a good friend of mine) that i was in love with him. i dunno if he (transitionin ftm btw) would tell my beloved, but i assume that beloved already knows.... to make matters worse, about 20 minutes after i told his best friend, i started making out in a hardcore way with another boy whom i've had a friend-crush on for ages. and the next night at the show, the beloved was making out with this cute german boy who just moved to the area, in front of me, as what i took to be a little bit of a fuck you. as he probably took what i did the night before, tho in both of our defenses, everyone was obliterated on whiskey and beer and dancing.
um. i know i'm a fuck-up, but i think about him night and day. and i really love him. i haven't felt this strongly about someone for a while. so do i just be direct and hope for the best, like the poster above? or do i just keep it in until things start to go my way, maybe?
if it makes any difference, he just finished college, i'm a couple of years older, we're both kind of sleeping around with people at the moment, but also have talked about how those sorts of relationships aren't really what we're looking for, in the long run.
― begonia perineum (the table is the table), Saturday, 20 February 2010 05:11 (fifteen years ago)
Dude there is clearly something there. I mean there are some complications but nothing you can't work out afaict. You make it sound worth it.
― Möbius dick (╓abies), Saturday, 20 February 2010 05:35 (fifteen years ago)
I found the web of making out very complicated.
― Evan, Saturday, 20 February 2010 05:52 (fifteen years ago)
i think about him night and day. and i really love him. i haven't felt this strongly about someone for a while. so do i just be direct and hope for the best
Yes.
― not a sock!! (ctrl-s), Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:44 (fifteen years ago)
yeah srsly, pull the trigger!
― nitzer ebbebe (gbx), Saturday, 20 February 2010 17:46 (fifteen years ago)
thx for advice... if i don't see him today, i certainly will tomorrow. uh.. so, who knows. depends a little on the atmosphere we're in. but soon..
― begonia perineum (the table is the table), Saturday, 20 February 2010 19:05 (fifteen years ago)
:(
― *sad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Saturday, 2 June 2012 08:37 (thirteen years ago)
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Sunday, 21 October 2012 09:54 (thirteen years ago)
I haven't felt this way in years. :(
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 21 October 2012 15:06 (thirteen years ago)
:))))
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Saturday, 29 December 2012 14:53 (thirteen years ago)
...Yeah, fuck that motherfucker. FIN
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:38 (twelve years ago)
but :) for the bits between the first and last post.
― we're up all night to get relegated (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 28 April 2013 19:47 (twelve years ago)
2 years pass...:(― *sad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Saturday, June 2, 2012 8:37 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink4 months pass...:)― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:54 AM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink:))))― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:53 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink3 months pass......Yeah, fuck that motherfucker. FIN― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― *sad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Saturday, June 2, 2012 8:37 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
4 months pass...
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Sunday, October 21, 2012 9:54 AM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:53 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
3 months pass...
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this puts that hemingway baby shoes shit in a headlock
― have a nice Blog (imago), Sunday, 28 April 2013 20:59 (twelve years ago)