he was talking a mile a minute, making no sense... what little i could make out was that he seemed concerned that i might be paying too much for my electricity. i asked him what his job was, and he claimed to be from some kind of "fair electricity" organisation, and he showed me some ID card that looked official! i said sure, if you can help me pay less i'm all ears so he said he'd just need to take down my details, then handed me a form to sign, which he said was just to indicate my interest. next to the signature line it said "this is a legally binding contract" and i was like "uh i'm busy, bye"
wtf?? this guy was just an out-and-out old-timey shyster! FYI, londoners, he worked for "NPOWER". needless to say i will avoid this company like the plague should i ever again come into contact with one of their carny minions!
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Sounds like what the long-distance people used to do to get you. What was it called, slamming or something?
― Ms Misery, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=509&image=enermax_marathon_doc
― gabbneb, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link
i just can't believe the nerve it must take to go around to people's houses with a clipboard and ID card and just lie right in their faces!
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link
do you have any valuables that can be easily viewed through the front door?
― jeff, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link
Besides yr harbl?
― HI DERE, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link
my hallway has about three right angles in it before you even get to a room so the only thing he saw was coats and shoes. i was thinking about where in the house my baseball bat was, though.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link
Do you never get door-to-door guys at all? He could have been contracted by the power company to get customers. If he's making $$ per sign up that could encourage him to be dishonest. Call/write the company and complain.
― Ms Misery, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link
Tracer, I'd be happy to YSI you some electricity if you're looking for some. A small donation to my Paypal would be all I'd ask in return.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link
go look at consumerist. they've been doing a series on these companies.
― lauren, Thursday, 14 June 2007 18:48 (seventeen years ago) link
I had a couple of these a while back. They were two extremely large guys. One of them stood on the pavement rather than coming up to the front door. The guy to whom I answered the door had official-looking npower ID, and asked to see my electricity bill so he could see if he could save me money. Needless to say, I told them to leave and called Thames Valley Police. Good times.
― caek, Friday, 15 June 2007 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link
I didn't sign anything but I did tell him my name and now I'm kind of freaking out that he's switched me anyway.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 15 June 2007 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link
I had these cunts come round and try this on me a few years back. Same thing - just sign here to express your interest and we'll send you an information pack. Yeah right.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 15 June 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link
I know we had to get rid of a lot of sales agencies recently that were pulling the same stunts, pretending to get your permission to investigate why you pay so much for electricity and then sign you up. It causes problems for the supplier too cos when an account moves from one supplier to another and then back again because they shouldn't have been transferred in the first place (an erroneous transfer, it's called) it causes an awful lot of problems and headaches for everyone concerned. NP0w3r are known as being pretty bad at not filtering out agents that do this, so yeh, complain.
― The Wayward Johnny B, Friday, 15 June 2007 14:41 (seventeen years ago) link
WHy not just use solar power?
― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link
lads what are we paying for electricity these days and how much are we using
ive switched tariffs, am sending back to the grid and am getting v nerdy about charts graphs and trends who's with me
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 December 2024 04:10 (five days ago) link
I literally have no idea I get these bills and I'm like are you sure
― plax (ico), Sunday, 29 December 2024 08:42 (five days ago) link
same, i haven't a clue. recently my provider said 'we'd like to raise your direct debit by x amount' and i mailed back and said 'why' and they said 'it's cool, we don't have to raise it if you don't want to' without any answer to my question.
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 29 December 2024 09:21 (five days ago) link
in 2022 my monthly BG gas/electric dd more than doubled to roughly £250+, then in late '23 they said oopsy, we are taking a bit too much here and lowered it to £192. And then last month they lowered it to £103, and despite their estimate being slightly lower than the true meter readings, my account is somehow £800 in credit. I'm never getting a smart meter, because they enable your supplier to switch you onto the notoriously ripoff pay as you go system remotely, if you ever miss a payment. I prefer it in when the fuckers need to kick my door in to impose pay as you go.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 29 December 2024 10:45 (five days ago) link
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 29 December 2024 09:21 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
yep had this conversation with them last year alright.
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 December 2024 10:53 (five days ago) link
when i left my last flat there was some huge amount in the account, i hadn't been paying attention. when i said i'll have that back thanks, the lengths they went to try to pretend it was vital to keep it there was genuinely like that bit in glengarry glenross when the jonathan pryce character realises al pacino's salesman is just bluntly lying to him.
like any effort to say 'well how much should i leave in or why' was just met with 'all of it' in sales speak.
like calz i tend to assume a smart meter is just another way of them lying, ripping me off, or controlling things. i am fairly tinfoil hat about it in that if they want me to have one i assume it's bad for me.
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 29 December 2024 11:17 (five days ago) link
prob about 30-40% of household bills are spent with bodies that are completely unaccountable, with no clarity about what you're paying for. council tax and leasehold even worse. just handing over money and any attempt to find out what it was spent on is met with total resistance, surprise and shambolic record keeping. i waged a one-man campaign to find out what a £400 quid leasehold increase was spent on, with my council, and the most itemisation they could offer was 'maintenance and repairs'. like getting your bill in a restaurant and it saying 'food and drinks'.
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 29 December 2024 11:21 (five days ago) link
and sorry, that itemisation was after about two months of me hassling them and threatening them. that was the end result.
i have a smart meter but i live in the eu it seems to be used as youd expect
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 December 2024 11:31 (five days ago) link
as you'd expect?
― plax (ico), Sunday, 29 December 2024 12:00 (five days ago) link
as eu'd expect
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 December 2024 14:45 (five days ago) link
That wasn't a clarification
― plax (ico), Sunday, 29 December 2024 23:34 (five days ago) link
In November we used 1773 kWh which cost us $207.97. This was 59 kWh per day, significantly less than last year's 70 kWh/day, this is because my nephew is no longer staying in the converted garage,
we are paying just over $0.10 USD per kWh currently
Dmac do u have solar sending back to the grid?
― sleeve, Sunday, 29 December 2024 23:39 (five days ago) link
That's about a quarter of the price of energy in Ireland and significantly higher than the average usage
― plax (ico), Monday, 30 December 2024 10:26 (four days ago) link
According to this anyway but don't know how accurate it is https://switcher.ie/gas-electricity/guides/energy-bills/what-is-the-average-gas-and-electricity-bill-in-ireland/
― plax (ico), Monday, 30 December 2024 10:28 (four days ago) link
prob 400 kWh of that is the hot tub
― sleeve, Monday, 30 December 2024 15:02 (four days ago) link
perhaps that's why some US hot tub models also have a time machine feature
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 30 December 2024 16:59 (four days ago) link
if only! we also have a tenant upstairs whose only heat/AC is electric, that's probably where another fair chunk of that usage comes from. Main house has gas heat.
― sleeve, Monday, 30 December 2024 17:11 (four days ago) link
i am sending back to the grid in the past two months sleeve, its a small array and obv not the greatest two months in which to do so
i think our usage (less what we produce) will be about 4800kwh a year, half of that is charging car tho
― tuah dé danann (darraghmac), Monday, 30 December 2024 17:39 (four days ago) link