Raggett clan member in plot to deny God-given right to die with dignity/sleep with the fishes

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Michael White, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

Grrr. I not rite so gud..

Any relation, Ned?

Michael White, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

That's my uncle! Great guy.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

Their main incentive for preventing bridge jumps is just the expense of finding/retrieving bodies, right? (Plus bumming out tourists?)

nabisco, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

It doesn't bum tourists out at all. Well maybe little kids.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously though tourists spend so much time gawking and gabbing about it, I seriously doubt it impacts their crap mean at Pasta Whatchamacallit in North Beach.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

If you haven't seen The Bridge, I highly recommend it.

Michael White, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno that movie seems pretty exploitative - the ways the filmmakers lied to get it made make me rather uncomfortable

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, when someone jumps, do they have to send out searchers and divers and body-retrievers and whatnot? Not like they can pretend they didn't notice and just wait for the body to wash ashore.

nabisco, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

"I dunno that movie seems pretty exploitative - the ways the filmmakers lied to get it made make me rather uncomfortable"

I didn't hear this story. What was the deal?

Alex in SF, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

I think "lied" is a bit strong.

jeff, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

Film captures suicides on Golden Gate Bridge

jeff, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

as I remember it there was a review in the Weekly that reported that the filmmakers didn't tell the deceased' families' being interviewed that they footage of the suicides/misled them about what the interviews were for, and the filmmakers also deliberately violated a bunch of restrictions on where they could film, among other things. It just seems really creepy and exploitative to me, and I don't really buy the argument about how the filmmakers made a vow to intervene if they could... I mean in the interview the director himself notes that they could've reached a jumper quicker than it took the emergency reponse guys to get there. I have a hard time with anyone who prefers to observe something going wrong (and then make money off it) rather than try to stop it.

SF Weekly review

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

My bad. You're right about the families. I thought you were referring just to the permit issue.

jeff, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

it strikes me as a deeply shitty/manipulative way to treat an interview subject.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

I agree.

jeff, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

Guardian interview with filmmakers

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmn that is pretty shitty. It's a pretty affecting film none-the-less.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

I agree about it's being a tad shitty, though, having actually worked for a film that shot on the bridge, I don't have as much compunction about the permit thing as about ommitting telling the families about the footage. The film IS powerful, however.

Michael White, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, when someone jumps, do they have to send out searchers and divers and body-retrievers and whatnot? Not like they can pretend they didn't notice and just wait for the body to wash ashore.

The CHP deals with people on the deck and the Coast Guard with jumpers. If not found, the bodies tend to be carried out to sea.

Michael White, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

I don't care so much about the letter of the law in terms of permitting either, but if yr gonna break the law, do it for a better (non-morbidly exploitative) reason

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

See, I usually would but otherwise no such film could be made. This isn't an attempt to boost a paper's daily sales, it's one-off film that examines the attraction the Bridge has for suicides and the affect that has on their loved ones. I'm a little ambivalent but I admired the film, too, and some of the footage is magnificently beautiful.

Michael White, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)

okay, full confession - I've witnessed a jumper/suicide (albeit not from the Bridge) and its not something I ever want to see again, nor can I fathom why a movie documenting such things could/should be made.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:35 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, it's all best ignored and forgotten.

jeff, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:53 (eighteen years ago)

there are other ways of dealing with things besides making movies about them and dishonestly manipulating those most deeply affected by them

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:56 (eighteen years ago)

...which, to bring it full circle, is a good part of why my uncle does what he does kthxbye.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2007 23:49 (eighteen years ago)


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