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― Michael White, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)
Grrr. I not rite so gud..
Any relation, Ned?
― Michael White, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)
That's my uncle! Great guy.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)
Their main incentive for preventing bridge jumps is just the expense of finding/retrieving bodies, right? (Plus bumming out tourists?)
― nabisco, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)
It doesn't bum tourists out at all. Well maybe little kids.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)
Seriously though tourists spend so much time gawking and gabbing about it, I seriously doubt it impacts their crap mean at Pasta Whatchamacallit in North Beach.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)
If you haven't seen The Bridge, I highly recommend it.
― Michael White, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)
I dunno that movie seems pretty exploitative - the ways the filmmakers lied to get it made make me rather uncomfortable
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)
I mean, when someone jumps, do they have to send out searchers and divers and body-retrievers and whatnot? Not like they can pretend they didn't notice and just wait for the body to wash ashore.
― nabisco, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)
"I dunno that movie seems pretty exploitative - the ways the filmmakers lied to get it made make me rather uncomfortable"
I didn't hear this story. What was the deal?
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)
I think "lied" is a bit strong.
― jeff, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)
Film captures suicides on Golden Gate Bridge
― jeff, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)
as I remember it there was a review in the Weekly that reported that the filmmakers didn't tell the deceased' families' being interviewed that they footage of the suicides/misled them about what the interviews were for, and the filmmakers also deliberately violated a bunch of restrictions on where they could film, among other things. It just seems really creepy and exploitative to me, and I don't really buy the argument about how the filmmakers made a vow to intervene if they could... I mean in the interview the director himself notes that they could've reached a jumper quicker than it took the emergency reponse guys to get there. I have a hard time with anyone who prefers to observe something going wrong (and then make money off it) rather than try to stop it.
SF Weekly review
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)
My bad. You're right about the families. I thought you were referring just to the permit issue.
― jeff, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)
it strikes me as a deeply shitty/manipulative way to treat an interview subject.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)
I agree.
― jeff, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)
Guardian interview with filmmakers
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)
Hmmn that is pretty shitty. It's a pretty affecting film none-the-less.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)
I agree about it's being a tad shitty, though, having actually worked for a film that shot on the bridge, I don't have as much compunction about the permit thing as about ommitting telling the families about the footage. The film IS powerful, however.
― Michael White, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)
The CHP deals with people on the deck and the Coast Guard with jumpers. If not found, the bodies tend to be carried out to sea.
― Michael White, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)
I don't care so much about the letter of the law in terms of permitting either, but if yr gonna break the law, do it for a better (non-morbidly exploitative) reason
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)
See, I usually would but otherwise no such film could be made. This isn't an attempt to boost a paper's daily sales, it's one-off film that examines the attraction the Bridge has for suicides and the affect that has on their loved ones. I'm a little ambivalent but I admired the film, too, and some of the footage is magnificently beautiful.
― Michael White, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)
okay, full confession - I've witnessed a jumper/suicide (albeit not from the Bridge) and its not something I ever want to see again, nor can I fathom why a movie documenting such things could/should be made.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:35 (eighteen years ago)
Yes, it's all best ignored and forgotten.
― jeff, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:53 (eighteen years ago)
there are other ways of dealing with things besides making movies about them and dishonestly manipulating those most deeply affected by them
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 June 2007 22:56 (eighteen years ago)
...which, to bring it full circle, is a good part of why my uncle does what he does kthxbye.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 June 2007 23:49 (eighteen years ago)