Why Dr Who Continues To Please Us: Nu Who Poll

should've just waited two weeks

sorry. i couldn't. i'll be bored of it then.

"Girl in the Fireplace" will walk it anyway. Or else.

Man I need to see the 2nd and 3rd seasons.

(Is "The Idiot's Lantern" the one about the face-stealing alien in the television? That one really, really sucked.)

This is hard.

Also, we can agree that it's a toss-up between "Father's Day" and "The Empty Child" as to the best episode from the first season, right?

thus disproving eccles is best LIES.

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Dan, it is and it did.

I voted for Family of Blood.

I am sure "Family of Blood" is good but I am conflicted about the idea of a television story based off of a book story.

Overall best episode: The Parting Of The Ways
Best self-contained episode: Blink/The Girl In The Fireplace toss-up
(Best self-contained CE episode: Dalek)

Best Eccles is a toss up between Dalek and The Empty Child/Doctor Dances for me.

Is there total concensus that S3>S2?

hmmm series 3 didn't get off to that good a start really. also tennants best are slightly better then eccles best but his worst are so, so much worse.

Actually, of the Tennants I've seen "The Christmas Invasion" (which was mostly bad except for the awesome, awesome ending), "New Earth" (which was great) and "The Idiot's Lantern" (WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT)

I seem to like The Christmas Invasion way more than anyone else I know.

i really liked it. when they get the endings right, as in the last 3 weeks' episodes they are incredible. question that blueski may know answer to: have a number of the uk who type folks switched polls off?

don't think so

It was between Girl In The Fireplace which was well put together and beautiful to look at and Blink which was stylish and terrifying (retro Who moment for me, hid under the Guardian travel section, to big for behind the sofa these days.)

i'm still surprised by how people said Blink was scary. on paper yes, but srsly?

We can't all be big strong men, like you steve, I was with the dust bunnies ;-)

I got newsprint on my nose Steve. Yes, it was scary!

i scoff at you all whilst carrying all the hod and wrestling a lion

blink got much scarier if you played along and tried to actually not blink at all. it really hurts. so that's not so much scary as painful and stupid. like the shakespeare code episode amirite lol etc.

Scariest Nu-Who Moments So Far:

1. DON'T BLINK
2. TARDIS phone rings: "are you my Mummy?"
3. Richard Wilson goes gasmasky
4. Doc opens TARDIS and it's an empty box
5. Caged werewolf talks to Rose

Arf arf nobody has even noticed that acrobat left "42" off.

i went for Doomsday, just cos a recent rewatch really impressed me, and DALEKS v CYBERMEN galactic bitch fite.

It was only ever between the Stephen Moffat episodes for me. I ended up picking Blink.

I voted, and then I forgot I'd voted, and voted again for something else (but it wouldn't let me).

I *think* I voted for the Doctor Dances - maybe the most satisfying Who episode ever, superbly plotted, great showcase for a great Doctor, and everything I like about the old and new versions rolled into one.

But votes for Fathers Day, Human Nature/FOB, Blink, Fireplace, Parting Of The Ways, Dalek and probably others would not seem like wasted votes to me.

Most underrated episode (as I say on diggerdydum all the time): Aliens Of London.

I think The Impossible Planet is under-rated - and surely has several moments among the scariest ever in nu-Who, if nu-Who scares you at all that is (scoff scoff).

HE IS AWAKE

i seem to recall a good reaction (eg on LJ) at the time, and indignation at the rubness of the follow up ep.

Actually the "don't turn around" conversation with Toby was scary yes.

Oh damn, I shoulda voted for Love & Monsters.

Scary moments not mentioned by Tom:

The Doctor and Mrs. Jones(?) racing through an underground corridor past an endless line of rousing Cybermen.
Tennant's Doc looking UTTERLY TERRIFIED for the very first time when he realises he's facing the Master at the end of Utopia.

Girl In A Fireplace.

I'm surprised that people seem to like The Parting of the Ways more than Bad Wolf. I thought that was a clear case of Part 2 being a let-down after the fantastic Part 1.

My vote goes to Father's Day anyway.

The Parting of the Ways made me cry, so no letdown for me.

Is there total concensus that S3 >> S2?

God, yes, surely!

ce

1) end of the world
2) empty child

dt

1) girl in the fireplace

season three needs to play here already

torrents are my savior

Ooh, Doctor Dances v The Empty Child v Blink v Father's Day TOUGH DECISION.

(I have not-v-secret love for Love and Monsters as well)

Ooh, Doctor Dances v The Empty Child v Blink v Father's Day

Gently amused that these are exactly the ones I'm torn between (maybe substitute Human Nature/FoB for Father's Day) but I couldn't STAND Love and Monsters. Horrible. I don't get it. But then I missed the first ten minutes (maybe this was mindblowingly amazing) and tuned in in time for slapstick arse-absorption and concrete blowjob roffles, no thanks.

(may have posted to similar effect to the Ice Whatsits thread. started to but not sure if ever submitted. sorry if so)

I just liked the "Doctor touches the lives of people LIKE ME" aspect of it. I've sort of wiped the Peter Kay/concrete blowjob aspect from my mind.

Conceptually at least Blink kind of rendered Love and Monsters completely redundant. The cringe factor when they started playing ELO.. jeebers. I would start a worst Nu Who poll but that other anti thread is amking me mad as it is.

Oi, what's wrong with ELO?

I like ELO (Out Of The Blue was the only post-Beatles pop record my parents owned when I were a lass so I demanded to listen to it pretty much every time I was allowed to choose music) but whatever squee-fandom laughs I might've got from L+M I probably got better from DVD messageboard nerd in Blink, yeah.

Maybe I should e-steal the first ten minutes and then turn it off before I get angry.

i just watched New Earth for the third time and it seemed better. i still miss about five comments per episode from the Doctor because he's talking too fast while the music is too loud tho.

interesting that most people pick episodes not featuring iconic enemies.

'Scuse me, I had Blink in the list of ones I really like, and just because it was better than Love and Monsters doesn't make Love and Monsters shit. It's not a one-or-the-other situation...oh, hang on, it's a poll, yes it is. Oh well. I would choose Blink over L&M any day of the week, but I'd probably pick The Doctor Dances over both of them.

It was just the moment they all realized they could play exactly the right instrument and started playing ELO completely removed me from the story. I mean this is a program where you have to give yourself over to the idea of aliens wandering the earth but for some reason people randomly forming ELO tribute bands was just a little too much. Like it strayed outside the limits of the possible world of Who. And that BJ gag at the end just... sucked. Blink was just so tight, it never stopped. I think if it had slowed down a bit Sally Sparrow might have seemed less endearing, or at least less interesting, did no one else get the feeling she was simply a young actress playing a young actress?

Not sure how 42 got missed of the list. I doubt anyone would have voted for it but it had the most important part of old who: intermittent overlong scenes of people running down corridors.

"the moment they all realized they could play exactly the right instrument and started playing ELO completely removed me from the story."

your will to suspend disbelief is pretty low there. how can you even watch any sci fi?

(i realise you sort of realise that, but still...)

The thing is the sequence didn't work in the context of sci-fi, certainly not in the world RTD had developed. Yes, we are expected to believe that dustbins can be possessed by alien forces but people act and react much as they would in the real world. In Love and Monsters the characters seemed quite badly drawn and as I said people randomly performing ELO doesn't quite fit with the world we are supposed to be imagining. If this was a vote for worst I’d probably have to vote for it, there are lazier episodes and less interesting episodes but none so embarrassingly misjudged. Peter Kay was good though.

it's already been established that L&M is the marmite of nu-who. (I'm a lover, not a hata, btw)

did no one else get the feeling she was simply a young actress playing a young actress?

here's how my brain was processing that episode half the time: "prettyladyprettyladyprettyladyprettyladyprettylday..."

PS Love & Monsters is great

L&M = great concept + pisspoor execution

Love & Monsters is one of the more affecting and relateable episodes of NuWho. It's a gem.

In Love and Monsters the characters seemed quite badly drawn and as I said people randomly performing ELO doesn't quite fit with the world we are supposed to be imagining.

The world in Love and Monsters is one populated by saddo interweb Who geeks who find friendship in their shared geekiness. How can you say that that isn't a world you can imagine (when you are posting it on ILX)?

Pretty Sally Sparrow actress got her kit off in The Amazing Mrs Pritchard, I believe, for those who wish to, um, research it.

The one with the kid in the gas mask, "are you my mummy?". That one.

ailsa because they didn't strike me as very real mainly. the geeky dude in blink seemed like a person who could feasibly exist in the same way the doctor and rose and martha do. the characters in love and monsters seemed like they had walked out of my parents are aliens or something.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

In future episodes I would like to see a Dr Who / Bernard's Watch series crossover, that would be awesome.

jel: That's "The Empty Child".

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

is 'Father's Day' really all that? i've never found it standout but convince me.

I'm kind of surprised no one went for "The Long Game"!

there is some Simon Pegg hate in the UK & Ireland you're probably not aware of. that episode had such a great ending tho.

er what? the fave is an episode with almost no dr who in it? it's good an all but it's a bit like voting for the skits on Enter the Wu or something.

I did not vote as the current series had not finished yet, however I would have gone for blink, girl in the fireplace or The sound of Drums, honourable mention for the empty child as well.

is 'Father's Day' really all that? i've never found it standout but convince me.

EMO. Plus bit where he opens the Tardis... and it's just an empty blue box!! = roffle maos.

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it's good and all but it's a bit like voting for the skits on Enter the Wu or something.

no it's more like preferring a band's novel and largely instrumental album tracks to any of their singles.

I was going to start this poll! I think it was a bit unfair on the double-episode stories to have their vote split, but I can't really argue with Blink winning. I loved the similar(ish) Love & Monsters, though. It had a strangely affecting atmosphere about it. As did Rose, for a while. I seem to like Dr Who best when the Doctor's not really there.

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friend of mine is in it. i couldn't not vote for it y know. dunno about the other person who voted mind.

You have to tell us more, so we can all look out for them!

he is playin the part of "Lad". it's a speaking part. i've read the lines, he has a conversation with Martha.