Seinfeld: "Whaaaat's the deeeeeeeeal with rape?"

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"Promoting his new animated film, Bee Movie, in the New York Daily News today, the usually family-friendly comic quipped, "Bees have the only perfect society on earth ... They have no crime, they have no drugs, they have no rape. A little rape, but it's not that bad."

Karen Baker, director of the National Sexual Violence Resource Center, says she has trouble understanding why Seinfeld would make such a joke, particularly in the context of a film for children.

Margaret Mikkelsen, the executive director of Students Active For Ending Rape, had a similar reaction. "I've always been a fan of Jerry Seinfeld, but I'm not a fan of rape jokes, whoever's telling them," she says. "Working in the anti-violence field, we get accused of not having a sense of humor. But just because you're a comedian doesn't mean that everything that comes out of your mouth is funny."

Meanwhile, RAINN, the Rape Abuse and Incest National Network, responded with an admonitory statement: "Rape is not a joke. It's the most violent crime a person can live through. It is an incredibly traumatic experience that should be seriously treated and never made light of."

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

smooth move

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/1/8/0/6/5/webimg/52706232_o.jpg

bell_labs, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

Michael Richards will leap to his defense.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

I hope Seinfeld doesn't book a room at HOOS's hotel anytime soon.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

What's the first thing Jerry Seinfeld does after getting laid?

He wipes the pepper spray from his eyes.

Oilyrags, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

BIG SEIN aka the rapejoker

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

"we get accused of not having a sense of humor"

NO, RLY?

darraghmac, Friday, 22 June 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

the hotel hoos

deej, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

anybody who understands joeks would know this is not a joek about how rape is not so bad

and what, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

Since when is Seinfeld a "usually family-friendly comic" anyway? I mean he's not exactly Andrew Dice Clay, but we're talking about the guy who introduced jokes about masturbation, serial killers, white supremacists and referring to a high-strung chef as "the soup nazi" to prime time TV.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

haha I just remembered the time he hosted Saturday Night Live and did a sketch about Jerry from the show going to prison in OZ:

Jerry Seinfeld: You think you can hold out longer than me?

Prisoner #97P904, Ryan O'Reily: I know I can hold out longer than you!

Prisoner #92S110, Vern Schillinger: Care to make it interesting?

Prisoner #97P904, Ryan O'Reily: A carton smokes?

Prisoner #95H522, Augustus Hill: I want in, too.

Jerry Seinfeld: You're all on. { shakes pinkies with everyone } Whoever goes the longest without committing male rape wins the Contest.

All: { throwing up their pinkies } Yeaaaaaaahh!

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

I love it when celebrities I don't really like stick their feet in their mouths.

Ms Misery, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

uh i think he mightve been joking that bee-rape is rare

jhøshea, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

It's the most violent crime a person can live through.

Doesn't this kinda ... depend?

nabisco, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

yah

Surmounter, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

(PS yeah this is kind of a bad joke-area to even get into, but the thrust seems to be "the bee-rape problem is not that big" as opposed to "rape is not bad.")

nabisco, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

still prolly shouldn't have been said, someone having been raped in the audience prolly doesn't need to hear the word rape/think about rape at a comedy show

Surmounter, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

funny thing is you ever notice bee-rape is not that bad i mean who cares about bees raping each other am i right kinda makes you think

jhøshea, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

maybe bee rape is the reason they're all dissapearing

Mr. Que, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

Can we please have this discussion every single time someone on ILX posts ugonnagetraped.jpg?

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

Do bees even have sex? Don't they just squirt stuff on eggs?

Ms Misery, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, have we moved past the part of the thread where we're all "bad Seinfeld!" and into the part where we make our own bee-rape jokes for 60 posts? Consistency ahoy.

nabisco, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

Usually, a female bee mates with several male bees in midair, gathering all of the sperm she will need in her lifetime -- a few months for a solitary bee, or up to five years for a honeybee. Mating typically happens at a collective mating site, although scientists have not yet discovered how male bees choose a site. In some species, including honeybees, the males die shortly after mating because they leave their endophallus in the female's body, fatally injuring themselves in the process. In other species, males can mate with multiple females. Since females use sperm from several males to fertilize their eggs, this gives the male bees a better chance to father young.

hstencil, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

nabisco obeerapetm

jhøshea, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

*trying not to google "endophallus"*

Ms Misery, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

The weird thing is that "A little rape, but it's not that bad" was probably supposed to mean "there's not actually that much rape" as opposed to "they rape each other, but it's OK, rape isn't so bad."

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

endophallus!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

it's a scientology thing, show some respect and deference

wanko ergo sum, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

cant wait to see people compare this to michael richards, as if seinfeld angrily singled out a woman from the audience to scream "FIFTY YEARS AGO YOU WOULDVE BEEN HANGING UPSIDE DOWN WITH MY DICK IN YOUR ASS!!!" instead of a pretty basic woody allen-style thwarted expectations joke which only works if you agree that rape is, you know, bad

and what, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

FIFTY YEARS AGO FIVE HOURS AGO

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

seinfeld doing shouty misogynist sam kinison stand-up would be pretty funny tho

and what, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

except plz nobody post what they think it would sound like, k?

strongohulkington, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

I hate to say it, but Kinison's straight-up misogynist schtick was actually way less creepy than his whole "I love women so much and intensely and they always break my heart and that's why I am this way" schtick, which was way too realistically "I'm hiding in the bushes and cutting myself I LOVE YOU" for comfort.

nabisco, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

you may also enjoy this bit

* On the starvation in Ethiopia.

You want to help world hunger? Stop sending them food. Don't send them another bite, send them U-Hauls. Send them a guy that says, "You know, we've been coming here giving you food for about 35 years now and we were driving through the desert, and we realized there wouldn't BE world hunger if you people would live where the FOOD IS! YOU LIVE IN A DESERT!! UNDERSTAND THAT? YOU LIVE IN A FUCKING DESERT!! NOTHING GROWS HERE! NOTHING'S GONNA GROW HERE! Come here, you see this? This is sand. You know what it's gonna be 100 years from now? IT'S GONNA BE SAND!! YOU LIVE IN A FUCKING DESERT! We have deserts in America, we just don't live in them, assholes!"

and what, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

He is clearly talking about the Sudan.

nabisco, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

those assholes with their non-arable land. when will they learn? listen to the comedian.

andrew m., Friday, 22 June 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

yeah ethiopia is actually very green, while sudan is sandy

deeznuts, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

people have lived in the sustainable environs of the desert longer than they have lived in the unsustainable environs of suburban US

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 22 June 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

^^^ i imagine you standing up and saying this in the middle of a kinison set, to great effect

gff, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

heheh I like Kinison a lot actually

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

He's dead, you know.

John Justen, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

I was actively scared of him as a child.

nabisco, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

xpost so I killed him

nabisco, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

# nebraska judge orders the word "rape" cannot be used in rape trial [Started by BIG HOOS aka the steendriver
# Seinfeld: "Whaaaat's the deeeeeeeeal with rape?" [Started by BIG HOOS aka the steendriver

Are we going to get a daily BIG HOOS aka the steendriver rape thread?

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

This reminds me of this time in 7th grade where this kid Josh in my science class asked to leave the room, and Ms. Beattie asked why, and he said he was had a personal issue and needed to go to the bathroom, and Ms. Beattie asked what the problem was, and he said it was personal, and they went on and on, back and forth, for like three minutes, until finally I said "duh, he's getting his period." Ms. Beattie sent me to the principal's office, claiming this joke was insulting to women, and so I had to spent the next hour trying to convince the principal that the joke was totally funny and not at all insulting to women.

nabisco, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

Except with less bees, and less offensive, and way funnier.

nabisco, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

(It's worth noting that Josh was totally and transparently lying about having any kind of personal issue at all, which was why Ms. Beattie was hassling him about it in the first place.)

nabisco, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

Sam Kinison fell asleep inside Jessica Hahn (the one lasting memory of some Howard Stern book I read when I was 12)

milo z, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

nabisco your teacher sounds like an ass

Mr. Que, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

man

i cant stand tori amos

the sir weeze, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:13 (eighteen years ago)

Weird how humans fear the pain of birth, but cats are totally cool with that. They'll squirt out 10 kittens on your doorstep and not make a noise. Having sex, though, is something they can't tolerate at all without being held down.

Weird animals.

kenan, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.umanitoba.ca/outreach/cm/vol9/no10/weirdnature.jpg

kenan, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:22 (eighteen years ago)

I've said this before somewhere, but have you ever been unfortunate to witness cat sex?

Ducks have it worse. Bastard drakes hold the ducks head under the water while they do the deed.

Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:31 (eighteen years ago)

man i hate tori amos

i can almost guarantee she will write a song about how jerry seinfeld is an awful person for her next album

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:37 (eighteen years ago)

xpost For all their strange behaviors during sex sometimes, mammals have evolved the most practical body shapes for getting sperm inside of a female. Turtles have sex, too, but they're barely evolved beyond putting sperm on eggs that were laid in water. Once they moved onto land, they had bigger problems to adapt to. So turtle sex is still bleeding hilarious.

kenan, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:38 (eighteen years ago)

Jerry Seinfeld bombs with pro-rape crowd

Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:40 (eighteen years ago)

nice

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:44 (eighteen years ago)

what race from star trek said it was uncomfortably painful to procreate?

the sir weeze, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:45 (eighteen years ago)

not tribbles

kenan, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:47 (eighteen years ago)

nice

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, June 23, 2007 6:44 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

That Gawker thing is weird. They obviously wanted to slap Radar down but this seems considerably more unpleasant than the Seinfeld 'bit'.

Is this kind of thing going to happen every time a new season of Seinfeld comes out on DVD? Just as well there's only one more season to go.

Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:51 (eighteen years ago)

What's Julia Louis Dreyfus going to say next year?

kenan, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:52 (eighteen years ago)

My vote: something about Hillary Clinton being "dykey".

kenan, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:53 (eighteen years ago)

mallard ducks actually commit indiscriminate rape on both males and females, often in gangs, and often upon corpses. i don't get 'em.

Just got offed, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:56 (eighteen years ago)

Procedure of preparation of dry exserted inner sac of penis for permanent storage

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:56 (eighteen years ago)

Oleg E.Berlov

Dipl. entomologist from Irkutsk, Siberia

Over 85 research publications, most on Carabidae.
Photographs of all Holotypes from my collection.
My own method inflating the endophallus.

http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Jungle/2834/ober.jpg

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 23 June 2007 06:57 (eighteen years ago)

Picture of the maximally inflated endophallus.

http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/ibc99/koning/phallus.gif

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:00 (eighteen years ago)

ew

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:00 (eighteen years ago)

First, a note on the use of the word rape. I do not mean to trivialize human rape and certainly an individual human rape is far worse than an individual honeybee rape, but as a cultural phenomenon, they are equally evil and, in fact, flow from the same source.

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:00 (eighteen years ago)

First, the head and thorax of the drone are crushed.

http://www.vegetus.org/honey/drone.jpg

This causes the abdominal muscles to contract and turn part of the drone inside out (partial eversion of the endophallus).

http://www.vegetus.org/honey/dr.jpg

The rest of the body is then crushed to turn the endophallus fully inside out.
The semen from many drones is collected and combined.

http://www.vegetus.org/honey/abc.jpg

The semen is injected.

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.vegetus.org/honey/in.jpg

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:03 (eighteen years ago)

mmmmmmmm

the sir weeze, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:04 (eighteen years ago)

dude quit it

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:05 (eighteen years ago)

This essay explains why most vegans do not eat honey. It also attempts to convince all vegans not to eat honey. If you are unfamiliar with veganism, please read Why Vegan.

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:05 (eighteen years ago)

i dont think bee plumbing shots were ever a part of my imaginative spectrum until now

the sir weeze, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:05 (eighteen years ago)

wait wait

http://www.biologie.uni-hamburg.de/b-online/ibc99/koning/phallus.gif

The "clasper" is that little bulb thing, and not the giant Quato arm hanging off of the whole disgusting apparatus?

kenan, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:05 (eighteen years ago)

This essay explains why most vegans do not eat honey. It also attempts to convince all vegans not to eat honey. If you are unfamiliar with veganism, please read Why Vegan.

ok NO NO NO wait. I assumed you were kidding through that whole thing, maybe at the most trying to gross us out *a little*. But that's an insect, and I squash 'em myself when they're bugging me. Not as methodically, but whatever, I have no feelings for them, they're pretty darn plentiful, and their colonies are built for numbers, not individual specialty.

"as a cultural phenomenon, they are equally evil and, in fact, flow from the same source." --- See, I TOTALLY thought that was a joke. I really did.

kenan, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:14 (eighteen years ago)

moonbat journey to crazyland

kenan, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:15 (eighteen years ago)

i did not personally author this essay against bee rape, kenan

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:18 (eighteen years ago)

i just wanted to point out that it's in especially poor taste for jerry to make this joke because there are people out there losing sleep over the dirty work of dudes like oleg e.berlov

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:19 (eighteen years ago)

hey, scorpion porn!

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:20 (eighteen years ago)

xxpost ok, so you are kidding.

I'm sorry, you scared me a LOT.

kenan, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:20 (eighteen years ago)

wow.

http://perso.orange.fr/eycb/scorpions/Images/Anciennes%20photos%20mois/AncPhotodumoisDecembre04.jpg

"His stinger trembled."

kenan, Saturday, 23 June 2007 07:22 (eighteen years ago)

^this thread

That one guy that quit, Saturday, 23 June 2007 08:37 (eighteen years ago)

Once being stung and receiving venom the female becomes drugged and no longer wishes to kill her mate. This behaviour is know as the sexual sting and brings about the sexual dimorphism of the males extremely long tail. She then becomes easy for the male to control, and control is exactly what is needed for a successful sperm transfer.

The male grips the female's pedipalps with his and starts to drag her about the place with the female offering resistance to his movement. The resistance is not unlike that of a tug of war. The female simply doesn't like to move very much, similar to moving a stubborn mule. The male gives the female the cheliceral kiss where he locks his mouthparts onto hers. This behaviour keeps the male's body in perfect alignment with the female's which as we shall see is of utmost importance.

The male continues to drag the female around until he locates a suitable surface on which he can deposit his spermatophore. The spermatophore is the container that houses the sperm and is placed onto a rock from the male's genital opening.

When the male is happy with the surface conditions the spermatophore is released from his genital opening and carefully placed onto the substrate below. The very sticky foot of the spermatophore adheres to the rock and remains upright. The male with his body now strongly arched must very precisely pull the female in a direct straight line so her body and genital opening are directly over the spermatophore. The female's genital operculum or plate is at 90 degrees to her body allowing the genital opening to be exposed at a maximum. With the spermatophore at the correct position the female lowers her body allowing the portion of the spermatophore containing sperm to enter her body. The sperm are released, the female raises her body from the spermatophore and without hesitation the pair quickly break apart, the transfer of the all-important genetic information completed

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 23 June 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

this is like an NC-17 rating for a movie.

aimurchie, Saturday, 23 June 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

This thread would have supplied me with new usernames for months back in old-ilx.

John Justen, Saturday, 23 June 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

Sea hares are simultaneous hermaphrodites that cross-fertilize by copulation. When two, or sometimes several, individuals copulate, each participant donates and receives sperm to and from another individual, but not necessarily the same individual.

http://sanctuaries.noaa.gov/science/itf/images/seaharetrainHickerson.jpg

Numerous black sea hares (Aplysia morio) approximately 25cm in length were observed free-swimming and creating “trains” of mating animals.

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 23 June 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

Sea hares know how to party.

milo z, Saturday, 23 June 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

awesome

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 23 June 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

it sorta amazes me that people choose careers in fields other than science

moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 23 June 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

I've said this before somewhere, but have you ever been unfortunate to witness cat sex? It's kind of rape, but it confounds all human definitions of rape. A female cat in heat, who clearly is... ahem... asking for it, still has to be overpowered, subdued, and bitten hard on the neck before the male can mate with her, and she still shrieks like she's being killed the whole time. There is no human analog for this.

----uh speak for yrself

Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 14:18 (seventeen years ago)

it sorta amazes me that people choose careers in fields other than science

These people are farmers?

YO!

Ant Attack.. (Ste), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 14:20 (seventeen years ago)

you're right d-mac, a small rape problem, that there is fuckin' riot! what is wrong with me, I gotta learn to lighten up about stuff, it's not like he made a racist quip or anything

no, he made a rapist quip

Q: Why was the mushroom so popular? A: He was a fungi (latebloomer), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 14:49 (seventeen years ago)

fortunately he has a rapist wit

beyonc'e (max), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 14:50 (seventeen years ago)

Jol out

Peter "One Dart" Manley (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 14:51 (seventeen years ago)

should i have gone with raper wit

beyonc'e (max), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 14:51 (seventeen years ago)

i hate seinfeld. i shoulda just gone with the flow here.

darraghmac, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 14:57 (seventeen years ago)

Two beekeepers strike up a conversation at a convention.
First beekeeper says, so Bob, how many bees do you have? Bob answers, 'oh, 100,000'.
The first beekeeper continues, 'and how many hives?' Bob replies, '100 hives. you know, 1000 bees per hive. How about you mate, how many bees do you have?' The first beekeeper says '1 million.'
Bob is amazed. '1 million bees! that's incredible! How many hives do you have then?' First beekeeper replies, 'just one.' Nigel is shocked once more, ''1 million bees in just one hive! Isn't that kind of cruel?
And the first beekeeper says, 'Fuck em, they're only bees.'

Number None, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

^ trivialising something important here

darraghmac, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 16:06 (seventeen years ago)


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