Sid Waddell: genius or erm .....genius

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I love this man, a true rennaissance man, first from Oxford, commentator on pub games such as darts (the new rock and roll dontcha know) and Pool. And, provider of some of the funniest quotes ever.

Am I the only one?

cabbage, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

sorry, first from Cambridge... must get these things right *before* I ask a question. And why doesn't he have his own site????

cabbage, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You forgot to mention that he wrote Jossie's Giants. For them football was just a branch of science.

Jonnie, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Not to get all Pinefox on yer, but... WHO?!?!?!?

Kate the Saint, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jossie's Giants or Sid Waddell?

Jonnie, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Both?

Kate the Saint, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sid Waddell - geordie darts commentator. Used to be on the BBC covering the Embassy World Darts from Frimley Green. Famous for being quite out there in his commentary e.g. It couldn't get more exciting in here even if Elvis walked in with a bag of chips. Now on Sky I believe. Jossie's Giants - Geordie football comedy drama for children written by Geordie Sid Waddell. Worst children's football team in the North East gets managed by former Newcastle player Jossie and surprisingly enough get a lot better.

Jonnie, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

sid waddell = Geordie commentator (currently commentating on the Pool world championships on sky, which has been great btw, Steve Davis got knocked out by a wonder kid yesterday) he's very fond of bringing his education into his commentary.

Sample quotes:

"this is the greatest comeback since Lazarus"

"under that heart of stone pulse muscles of pure flint"

"John Lowe is striding out like Alexander the Great conquering the Persians"

etc etc

Jossies Giants = 80's kids tv progtamme featuring a humourous bunch of disparate kids forming a footy team coached by aforementioned Jossie.... and hilarity ensues, famous fopr a remarkably wooden cameo by Bryan Robson in a hideous jumper

cabbage, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

and he can probably type better than me too

cabbage, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

British culture is, indeed, just weirder than I will ever be able to fathom.

And you have to love 'em for it!

Kate the Saint, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I remembered a quote from last night:

"when I see Steve Davis I see two letters .........C S...... Cue Sorceror"

how can anyone not love this man?

cabbage, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I love the way that such a quote works on two levels! I think me and you are the only ones to fully appreciate Waddell's genius.

Jonnie, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

we'll always be a misunderstood minority.

Mind you I like this thread, it's nice and cosy just the two of us with Kate popping in occasionally.

Right I'm off home see you later

cabbage, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, I too am an admirer of the collected works of Waddell. I hear his voice every time I step up on the oche... "Well, he can't be happy with that..."... And I am thoroughly engaged with the genius that is Jossie's Giants. Also I met a guy who was actually in Murphy's Mob recently! Sometimes meeting your heros really isn't a let down...

Martin, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I shall be watching some of Waddell before I set off for , the club that dare not be mentioned. I will attempt to write down some of Sid's more eloquent sayings.

By the time of the final on Sunday he should be fit to burst!

cabbage, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

cabbage + jonnie = the new pete/emma kate/paul

stevie t, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like him a lot, but I like anything to do with arrers in general.

Greg, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Does anyone remember the Jossie's Giants theme song? I think it was similar to the Auf Wiedersehen Pet one...

Paul Strange, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Does anyone remember Mr Benn? Anyone remember Spangles? Remember when Forest were good?

Greg, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"We're called Jossie's Giants Football's just a branch of science (first line that I can't remember) (second line that I can't remember)

-THUD THUD-

Jossie's Giants"

I guess the answer to your question Paul is, er no, not very well.

Jonnie, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

didn't a juventus youth team come over in jossie's giants, and they argued coz both teams played in black and white strips. or was that another programme?

gareth, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I seem to remember they employed a purty gurl to distract the goalie.

Madchen, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, she also had the great responsibility of wielding the Magic Bucket and Sponge that cure all known footballing injuries, if I remember right. And probably cutting up the half time oranges too.

Emma, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

COuld he match Marv Alberts' transvestive tramp biting frenzy?

Mike Hanle y, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, but then the girls formed a football team that was better than the boys! The boys were trying to pick up girls and then a different bunch of girls became Jossie's Giants. So Jossie's Giants became another team, *something* Romeos, in a pink strip, with hilarious consequences. I think.

Paul Strange, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Glipton Romeos, that's it.

Paul Strange, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"they're burning the midnite oil at both ends", a classic Waddellism. I'm pretty sure Jossies Giants was set in some nebulous part of yorkshire though, rather than the north east.

carsmilesteve, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Some of them definitely had geordie accents, so unless it was some sort of bizarre geordie exile team I think it must have been set in Newcastle.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ahem...

We're called jossies giants / Footballs' just a branch of sciiiience / Head the ball now, Jossie Go / THUD THUD Jossies Giants.

Oh, the memories come flooding back.....

S.O.S, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Phil Rizzuto of Darts. I gotcha check this shit out next time I'm in the UK!

Do they still have "Bull's Eye" on the TV over there?

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I must admit I have no knowledge of anything else he's ever done, but Jossy's Giants = CLASSIC. I loved it as a kid. Plus it starred Jennifer Luckraft, yay, etc. (Any relation? We think probably so, but only extremely distantly.)

I think Bullseye stopped a couple of years ago, although I was reading somewhere that they were thinking of redoing it, so it might be back again. I don't know, I didn't watch it, though the father of a schoolfriend of mine used to watch it obsessively in the mid-80s so I saw it a few times then.

lazy serf, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

see also:

Stuart Hall, another commentating genius, his reports on the football for Radio 5 in the Uk are the work of godlike wonder.

cabbage, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
How come I dont get any answers when I ask about famous people in the rennaissance. What the fuck is this chit for, I thought it gave information of the rennaissace

Sandra Perez, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

don't be mean, and don't use my e-mail addy either.

cabbage, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sid Waddell is darts very own renaissance man.

Billy Dods, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two months pass...
does anyone remember any more waddellisms? i'm doing a phone interview with the man tomorrow and i want to hoist him with his own petard

bix, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wowee! Can't think of anymore though.Sorry.

Jonnie, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Here's a couple :

"There's only one word for that - magic darts!"

"Keith Deller's not just an underdog, he's an underpuppy!"

Dr. C, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So that's where my ex got 'magic darts' from. Does he sometimes say 'spooky biscuits' as well?

RickyT, Thursday, 22 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the creme de la creme of Sid

"I don't know what he's had for breakfast but Taylor knocked the Snap, Crackle and Pop outta Bristaaaa"

Ciarna, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
Sid Waddell interview in the Standard yesterday.

N., Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Another great Waddellism here, when commentating on the 2001 Mosconi Cup:

"even hypotenuse would have trouble working out these angles"

Ben Butler, Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So the impression I'm getting is of a UK Dennis Miller. Is that at all correct?

Dan I., Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Not forgetting the often attributed but actually incorrect...

"IN A WORD.....MAGIC DARTS!!!"

Davo, Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A few that I can remember from previous years.

" Looks at these darts William Tell eat your heart out" " Steve beaton - The adonis of darts, what poise, what ellagance a true roman gladiator with plenty of hair wax." " if your round your auntie's tonite, tell her to stop making the cookie's and come thru to the living room and watch these two amazing athletes beat the proverbial house out of eachother"

Anjum, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Why isn't there a web site dedicated to this great man and his quotes? You could fill the Concise Oxford book of Quotations with them!! What was that one about Eric Bristow conquering the world at 27 when Alexander the Great was 30 odd? That's my fave!!

Roberta Wallace, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As they say at the DHSS, we're getting the full benefit here. More like that here.

Billy Dods, Sunday, 6 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

some more I heard while watching the darts last week:

Phil Taylor MBE.......... Massive ballisstics.....expert

he's a true tungsten terpsichorialist (wtf????)

it'd be the most surprising comeback since Lazarus rolled away the stone and said "HIYA!"

what a man.

chris, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Terpsichorean - relating to dance, after a Greek Muse

michael, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't think it was Waddell, which is unfortunate, but two darts players having a good oche scrap the other night were described as "a pair of Tungsten tossers" ...Which is something we can all relate to.

Martin, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"They won't just have to play outta their skin to beat Phil Taylor. They'll have to play outta their essence!"

this one continued into a rambling long commentary on how Phil Taylor had got so good that he would no longer play mere mortalks and would in fact be contesting the next world champs against the best the spirit world has to offer, and that he would beat them too, as well as the inhabitants of Mount Olympus.

chris, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Have Sky got the rights to that as well?

N., Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yup, they've got all the God sports sewn up, next week Thor is fighting Zeus in the heavyweight championship.

chris, Monday, 7 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'he's sweating like a donkey in a sauna' 'Taylor at the oche....his eyes bulging like a hungry chaffinch' (favourite of mine) 'He looks about as happy as a penguin in a microwave' 'he's been burning the midnight oil at both ends' etc etc etc

the man is a cult hero; a real legend. One of a kind.

Viva Sid!

John Michel, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Some of these have been mentioned before, but a colleague at work recently sent me these. Enjoy.

> CLASSICAL SID > > "It's the nearest thing to public execution this side of Saudi Arabia." > > "His physiognomy is that of a weeping Madonna." > > "Eat your heart out Harold Pinter, we've got drama with a capital D in > Essex." > > "That's the greatest comeback since Lazarus" > > "Bristow reasons... Bristow quickens... Aaaah, Bristow." > > "It couldn't be more exciting if Elvis walked in now and asked for a chip > sandwich." > > "When Alexander of Macedonia was 33, he cried salt tears because there were > no more worlds to conquer. Bristow's only 27." > > > SURREAL SID > > "He's as cool as a prized marrow!" > > "Under that heart of stone beat muscles of pure flint." > > "Here's Baxter doing a cock-a-leekie soup job on Ovens!" > > "He's playing out of his pie crust" > > "He looks as happy as a penguin in a microwave." > > "Like they say in that old Canadian-Indian proverb, 'When the squirrels > march backwards,the forest is on fire' - and Bristow is ablaze" > > > STRANGE SID > > "The pendulum swinging back and forth like a metronome" > > "His face is sagging with tension." > > "The fans now, with their eyes pierced on the dart board." > > "He's been burning the midnight oil at both ends." > > "Harrington's not on fire. Memo to boy scouts - take two sticks to Circus > Tavern immediately" > > "There'll be pies 'n' pickles plasterin' pubs around Preston." > > "The Tension. As tangible as brown sauce on a sausage butty." > > > ARE YOU SURE SID? > > "Darts players are probably a lot fitter than most footballers in overall > body strength." >

Trevor, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four weeks pass...
Thank God! I thought nobody remembered the true genius of Jossy's Giants apart from me. The show ran for two series in the mid to late 80's, and I think it was set in Lancashire, not Yorkshire (and certainly not in Newcastle!). The kids voices sounded similar to mine at the time, so I'm pretty sure it was set near where I live. Jossy WAS a Geordie though, who ran a sports shop and married Glenda Fletcher in the very last episode. I was devastated to learn that in real life, the actor who played Jossy was not a real Geordie, just a papier mache accented method actor. I had the entire second series on video, but my mum cruelly taped Coronation Street over it. I also still have the story book that you could order from those rubbish school book clubs in the 80's. Ah, nostalgia! Brings a tear to the eye etc... The actor who played 'Dazzling' Dave Sharkey (the manager of the Giants great rivals, the Eccleston Express) now appears in those McDonalds adverts ranting about how kids have it so easy these days.

Steven Barnsford, Friday, 15 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, by the way, Sid Waddell IS a genius.

Steven Barnsford, Saturday, 16 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three months pass...
***here you go - such a memorable show, it just came back to me last night that this show ever existed, it had thiose punk twins in, a romeo player, and the regular kid - were they crap or good i really cant recall***

Jossys Giants

Swapping their homework for footwork, Kicking the ball till its dark,

Here go Jossy's Giants, Footballs just a branch of science, Head the ball, now Jossy calls...

Jossy's Giants!!??

Dependable, Reliant Put your faith in Jossy's Giants Get stuck in, we're gonna win...

Jossy's Giants!!

***BTW i thought i iinvented sport billy in my head once - i was a little disappointed to find out i hadn't***

james, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm on the radio with Mr. Waddell tomorrow. Need to get autographs for loads o'people. I don't know whether to, "laugh, cry, or blow him a kiss." The goalie in Jossie's Giants was hilarious. Ahhhhh, happy days.

Jen O'Neill, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...
I heard the great Waddell on the Tv commentating on the recent pool world championships, commmenting on an american players flexability he said "he could wash his hair with his big toe" the man is a pro

Spectrum, Saturday, 3 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the apoplexies he went into when Phil Taylor got his unbelievable 9 dart finish were amazing.

chris, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

and more sid quotes here:

http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,15150-1039981,00.html

chris, Monday, 5 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...
Didn't the theme tune start:

Daredevils taking their chances,
Burning the candle both ends,
Now that soccers second best, [it really matters how their dressed]?
[dur dur dur dur dur dur dur]?,
The score tonight is the discoteque,

We're called Jossy's Giants,
Football's just a brand of science,
Head the ball now Jossy go
THUD THUD JOSSY'S GIANTS!

Their girlfriends cause distraction,
but [dur dur dur dur? Soccer action,
[dur dur dur dur dur dur dur dur]?,
THUD THUD JOSSY'S GIANTS

Of course I may be wrong. And did I imagine a children's program called Geordie Racer that involved a racing pigeon?... And some Geordie's...

Pizza Beardsley, Sunday, 20 October 2002 19:41 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...
Don't know if this thread's still running...

I've only just become aware of Sid's genius. I've been involved in a longrunning debate about whether Fat Ron or John Madden was the most deranged, unaware that the argument was utterly redundant.

Some WaddelLisms I've picked up at this year's darts:

'It's like he's playing against mortals now, and Taylor's a member of the Mount Olympus Working Men's Club'.

'He could get another 12 darts in there if he wanted'

and most strangely of all:

'Taylor's daughter there; she doesn't know whether its Pancake Tuesday or April Fools Day'.

And what is going on with his volume control? It sounds like he's either having sex or being poked with a big spike. There are definite similarities between this and Dev in Coronation Street when he gets upset. Don't know what that means....

Uncle Sprout, Monday, 6 January 2003 00:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Another interview. Has this thread become the web's premier Sid Waddell resource?

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 6 January 2003 13:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I got a text from Jonnie last night that simply said:

"mesmerising parabolas" which could only have been a Siddism.

Apparently he also told viewers to tape last night's match and put it in a time capsule cos the little 'uns would want to see it in a thousand years time or summat like that anyway.

chris (chris), Monday, 6 January 2003 13:14 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...
Pointlessly enough:

Jossy's Giants star sighting No 1:
I was once on a bus with the woman who hung around the lads in Jossy's Giants. It was in Rochdale, for the show was set in North Manchester. I reckon Bolton be the place in truth (which fits, for the bus in question was the 400 which went from Rochdale to Bolton)

Jossy's Giants star sighting No 2:
Kieron O'Brien who was in Jossy's Giants was actually able to play football, as he played for another team in our league (the Radcliffe District Junior Sunday League in case you weren't in the slighest bit interested) in the mid 80s.

How 'bout that! as commentators say in baseball movies.

Also - Jossy's Giants was rubbish as they chose poorly in the great action vs acting issue. The kids couldn't even act that well either. Though they were better than Bryan Robson who appeared in the episode in which he pretended to know Jossy from way back and got the gang in the audience for Question of Sport. Fancy - the days when Question of Sport was a big enough show to merit being featured in another. Though it was better than Sporting Triangles.

Dave B (daveb), Monday, 10 February 2003 19:47 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
absolute magic darts on show right now.

and some classic Waddell too

Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:16 (twenty years ago)

He was on Celebrity Mastermind tonight, answering questions about rock and roll. He came last.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:25 (twenty years ago)

OMG, I just read a Sid Waddell book! It was called "Bedroll Bella." I had no idea who he was, but the writing is genius. It's like reading Viz but with no pictures. Or something.

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:25 (twenty years ago)

He was on Celebrity mastermind tonight as well. he came joint last with Myleene Klass but I thought him and Myleene got much harder questions than Alistair McGowan or Iain Banks (who won).
He also claimed that darts fulfils the three criteria (?) in the definition of a sport.
1. Involves hand-eye coordination
2. You get better with practice
3. Element of competition
x-post

Joe Kay (feethurt), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:27 (twenty years ago)

Phil Tayl;or is throwing some beautiful stuff right now, I was hoping he'd have it wrapped up in time for Rebus, unfortunately not

Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:36 (twenty years ago)

I hate not having Sky Sports anymore at this time of year. Christmas Soccer AM Special and the darts are the best telly over the festive period :(

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 2 January 2006 22:18 (twenty years ago)

magic darts, Manley got a lesson there.

Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 2 January 2006 22:30 (twenty years ago)

I was searching for a thread on the darts and search wouldnt work.
Taylor was awesome tonight. I enjoyed seeing Manley getting taught a lesson.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 2 January 2006 23:07 (twenty years ago)

six years pass...

RIP

Alba, Sunday, 12 August 2012 11:29 (thirteen years ago)

awww, RIP. i would watch the darts as a kid just to listen to him.

zappi, Sunday, 12 August 2012 11:49 (thirteen years ago)

:(

RIP

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 12 August 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)

Remember him going on a massive enthusiastic description of the great speeches Nye Bevan had given at the Blackpool Winter Gardens, full of marvellous detail, in the intro to a darts tournament there (world matchplay?). Sky's anchor, Dave Clarke, clearly had some producer yelling in his ear telling him to get Syd to stop, cos he kept going 'yep', 'right', 'right', 'yep', 'but', 'moving on' but Syd was irrepressible. It was fantastic.

Fizzles, Sunday, 12 August 2012 20:03 (thirteen years ago)


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