Did someone see Wener Herzog's gone-hollywood last movie "rescue dawn"?

I hear it's racist and doesn't have enough Spielbergisms. I have the orig doc version, Little Dieter Needs to Fly, at library.

I think someone saw it, and wrote a review. I don't know what I think, but you should go. Report back on the plat.

it's a comic love story, really

"it's a comic love story, really"

every good movie has the "comic love story" theme at least somewhere on the subtext...

i read a review that said the love story between the two dudes was the best part. and not even subtext.

that they made a very entertaining married couple.

discus

never say die guy chills with filthy muppet dog man

while Charles Manson glowers in corner

"doesn't have enough Spielbergisms"

but this seems like a good thing..

http://www.pajiba.com/images/christianbale.jpg

Elton Brand is a producer for this!

i read a review that said the love story between the two dudes was the best part. and not even subtext.

Did someone read about I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry?

i heard it was no fifth monkey

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/coverv/29/114529.jpg

YOU are the fifth monkey!

ok ive seen it:
pretty much one dimensional rescue-survival movie, though pretty well done, and focused narratively,so it's good for the hollywood formula.
it features the old man vs. nature theme, with differfent perspectives:
the surrender and the fighter one.
Herzog has is own preferences,but he showed much deeper artistic vision on the subject in the past.
so,yes,it an ok movie, but it's not a must. you can wait for the dvd.
and the acting is pretty good.

about the love story - not much of a focus on the subject.

My friend David saw it opening day and said it was better than Little Dieter. He might have just been excited, though.

the acting is really great

I liked it quite a bit. Though I haven't seen his last coupla fiction ones (Invincible and the one about the pianist) this seems like a big departure in tone for him. There are very few outright WTF moments. Nothing "weird" about the telling. But that's not really the same thing as it being a mainstream Nam movie. It's sort of a lucid, egoless Nam movie. Actually, it does turn strangely mainstream in the last few minutes, doesn't it?

As already noted the acting from Bale and Zahn carries it. The third american POW, the Mansony guy, is intensely annoying, even more so than called for by his role.

A lot of the soundtrack is made up of spectral Cello improvisations by someone named Ernst Reijseger. He's on my want list now.

The Manson dude played the motherfucker in Spanking the Monkey, the coward in Saving Private Ryan, and whattayaknow, Charles Manson.
He's so thin in this movie, he dissappears when he turns sideways.

Reijseger did the soundtrack for the Wild Blue Yonder and the White Diamond. There's a great cd compiling his Herzog work called "Requiem For A Dying Planet"

No shit?! How convenient for me. What label...?

his own, I think: Winter & Winter
great packaging on this and their other releases

Oh yeah, I know their stuff. Uri Caine and shit. Good, those are usually pretty easy to find.

amazon, etc

i think to main subrext of the movie is quite anti american.
the hero,dieter, is so different than the other prisoners - he is a good looking super hero full of confidence and optimism character,while they are the surrendering,full of fear and passivenes characters,who are frightend of nature and other humanns, while dieter,well,he doesnt fear anythink,and lives in harmony,relatively,with nature and otehr characters.
at the end,he is dressed in white like a saint, raised above all the otehr americans surrounds him.
the moral message of the movie is kinda problematic,though, let's say kafka wouldnt agree i think.

naw, look at Dieter's american pals on the ship--they're the salt of the Earth, loyal, rebellious, can-do guys. The scene where the guy is making fun of the propaganda film. Dieter really believes in the romantic concept of "America," refuses to denounce the country, etc. Herzog makes a distinction between the ideals of "America" and the war-creating bureaucracy of the American government. As a German making a prison-camp movie, he would have to.

Watchable but really generic, and if I had read this before I saw it, I would have been pissed off while watching it rather than searching for a subtext I wouldn't have if anyone else had directed it. I enjoy Steve Zahn in anything and aside from some moments ("I'M NOT GONNA BAIL! I'M NOT GONNA BAIL!") in the beginning Christian Bale's latest American accent didn't annoy me much.

Ok, actually I've seen some shitty Steve Zahn performances. But I still seek out stuff he's in.

I like that he had to allow himself one smiling midget.

Werner, I mean.

to be fair, Bale was supposed to be sporting an eccentric German dude accent

It's a great action movie, like Hogan's Heroes or something but a lot better made. "DENNNNGLEEERRR!"

"searching for a subtext I wouldn't have if anyone else had directed it."

Ha, but that's part of the fun, no?

Are there any giant mechanical spiders to combat? Will Smith on soundtrack?

http://www.shystee.com/shysteeblog/archives/aguirrecut.jpg

(BTW, remarkable how Kinski looks kind of like the Alien creature in that shot)

There is a giant beetle to battle

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Skeletons w/swords

to marimba accompaniment.

no but srsly re: beetle! It was big and on a string!

bale eats a live snake, dude

The ending was so "...Werner?" that I almost forgot all the scenes that were "oh, Werner."

Most Werner moment for me: the fucking dog prancing across the frame on hind legs.

Embarrassing piece of shit. Last scene practically says as much.

Yeah, so about that ending...

So often I wish that every one of his films came with a making-of documentary a la Burden of Dreams; they'd be so much funnier, more harrowing, and stupider. Plus, fuck Klaus Kinski -- Werner's scarier.

This is awesome.

what the HELL was he thinkin'?

this was really terrible

This was OK. Herzog's hit or miss with me.

it was bad

this movie has a very german sense of humor

its big failing is that it seems to count on you already knowing about dieter and filling in the blanks yourself

it's still very funny though

You think so? I saw "Little Dieter ... " first, but I bet it would work just as well as a follow-up to "Rescue Dawn."