This guy comes into my restaurant all the time. I saw him with Amy Hempel a few weeks ago and the next time he came in I asked him if he was also a writer. "Yes." A novelist? "Yes." Tonight he came in and I asked his date while he was in the bathroom what his name was and she laughed and said, "Well, if he doesn't want to tell you." (She did admit that he was not Thomas Pynchon.) He never uses a credit card, and I'm never going to just confront him because a) it's kind of a nice restaurant, and b) i have some vague respect for his privacy. i'd NEVER do this with some hollywood or TV person ("Where do I know you from??") but it seems different for an author.. i can't explain why. So, any suggestions?
-Bald -Mid- to Late 40s. -Glasses -Yogi demeanor -"Novelist" (likely kind of a big-shot) -Lives in New York -Looks a lot like Jackie Earle Haley, but with no facial hair. -NOT: Thomas Pynchon, Richard Ford, Martin Amis. -Vegan. -Smart-mouthed, no-tipping douchebag. -Friends with Amy Hempel.
― poortheatre, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 06:28 (eighteen years ago)
Smart-mouthed, no-tipping douchebag.
He's not a big shot and you haven't heard of, far less enjoyed any of his books.
― Sandy Blair, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 07:13 (eighteen years ago)
No tipping at a nice restaraunt? I think that the "vague respect for his privacy" is out the window. Piss in his drinks.
― libcrypt, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)
well, crap tipping. $4 on $42 last time he was in.
― poortheatre, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)
Rushdie
― Oilyrags, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)
fuck that shit. as for his privacy I say invade away
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/richard_deitsch/01/25/qa.mandel/mandel1.jpg
― Jordan, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)
$4 on $42 is 10%, which means, "I think yr service kinda sux", but isn't out of the realm of acceptability. I tip 15% if it's average, 20% if it's good service, and never under 10% unless they spill something on me. (That's happened, actually, and I got $300 from the restaraunt for my ruined jacket.)
― libcrypt, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)
Based on the Haley comparison, my first thoughts were Jonathan Ames or Donald Antrim -- but Ames is too young, and Antrim usually has both head-hair and facial hair.
― nabisco, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)
Oh good another tipping thread.
― n/a, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)
HEY GUYS LET'S HAVE ANOTHER TIPPING THREAD
haha xpost
Uh oh.
XPOSTY
― Oilyrags, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)
I can't quite bring myself to do this work for you, but if you're just DYING to know, you might try checking Amazon for the acknowledgements in Hempel's books -- or reading some interviews to see whose circles she runs in -- and image-searching likely candidates.
― nabisco, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)
-Bald -Mid- to Late 40s. -Glasses
Now, importantly, were the glasses ad-agency hip and rectangular or college-prof nebbish?
― Eazy, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)
If it was Rooshdie, wouldn't poortheatre have recognized the lady with him?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.econoculture.com/images/leavitt_250x338.jpg
Was it David Leavitt?
I'm trying to think of other novelists who were in their 20s in the mid/late 1980s, Paris Review and/or Gordon Lish circles.
― Eazy, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)
they broke up
but he usually has facial hair anyway
― dmr, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)
This is actually kinda bugging ME now. The best answer I can come up with is "Rick Moody with cancer."
― nabisco, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)
Haha also someone's blog claims that Moody is "hot in an arrogant-Michael Stipe kind of way," and at least STIPE looks like Jackie Earle Haley!
― nabisco, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)
"Rick Moody with cancer."
Haha, or "Sickly Junot Diaz"
― C0L1N B..., Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.mehrzweckbeutel.de/staubsauger/images/beutelbilder/TC_Boyle_03_420.jpg
Maybe TC Boyle has shaved his head?
― Eazy, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)
Chuck Palahnuik? Perhaps too hairy though...
― Neil S, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)
Mark Leyner?
― John Justen, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)
http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Health/_Health%20Columns/BodyOdd/060731_goldberg_leyner_bcol.hmedium.jpg
On the left.
― John Justen, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)
My first thought was Palahniuk but he's totally not bald or vegan.
― Jordan, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)
mark leyner lives in CA, doesn't he?
― ghost rider, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)
Or from New York, or a glasses-wearer, or yogic in demeanor, or looking like Jackie Earle Haley!
― nabisco, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)
clearly the answer is "Ben Kingsley pretending to be a novelist"
― dmr, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)
that guy sure can act
Indeed. His best moment was his NSFW line from Sexy Beast.
they broke up So they did. Where was the thread on that?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)
Mark Leyner is a great tipper. I thought he still lived in 'Boken though.
Can you upload us some footage from the restaurant's security camera, or just surreptitiously photograph the guy?
― eater, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)
rick moody!
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.thirdcoastfestival.org/images/moody.jpg
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)
Some douche that none of us have heard of
― n/a, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)
Don't see it (xpost)
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)
This article makes me think it's Moody:
Today Moody radiates healthfulness. A vegetarian, he appears fit and lean in his plain brown sweater, tight black jeans and high-top sneakers. He has shed his turbulent locks and his black-framed glasses, and as a result seems open and vulnerable where once he looked guarded and abstract.
― jaymc, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)
i so so so so so so so so want it to be Moody
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)
Although I skimmed that and didn't notice that it says he no longer wears glasses.
― jaymc, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)
does mystery guy drink? you should card him. "sorry but the liquor board is being really strict now ..."
― dmr, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)
Rick Moody, in another interview:
RM: It’s a hassle. I don’t want to be told to fix things at that point and yet I need to be told. There are a couple of people I really like. The short story writer Any Hempel is a good friend of mine and I always show her stuff because she has got a perfect ear. So if there is a sentence that’s awkward, you are going to know about it.
― jaymc, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)
That's why I suggested Moody-with-cancer in the first place -- he and Hempel are totally tight. He prefaced her collected stories, too.
― nabisco, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)
yeah it was the Hempel connection that sealed the deal for me.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)
although i would be less excited if it was Antrim after all
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)
moody was not nice to me when we met
― remy bean, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)
details, remy!
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)
I think I met Antrim and talked to him on the phone once, he seemed perfectly nice.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)
he was not nearly as much of a flagrant dick as coetzee though
― remy bean, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)
j.m. goatse
― dmr, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)
lolz
― ghost rider, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)
former jbr screen name (credit where it's due)
― dmr, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)
coetzee seems like he'd be a dick, though.
<literary gossip queen>
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)
Are you the guy who took all the rejected jbr screennames and put them over here?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)
I thought rick moody was all over radio these days for some reason.
― sweet tater, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)
he does radio stuff, plays and that sort of thing i think.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)
I think he helped write a pop song as well for the third coast festival.
― sweet tater, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)
yeah he's in a band, too. if it ends up being him, i'm throwing everyone on ilx a party at my house.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)
Coetzee is the flagrantest dick. At the same time, some of it must just be South African formal manners. Derek Walcott's the same way, and I forgave it a bit as a cultural thing. (Both spent a day or two at my college, so I ended up at some meals with them.)
― Eazy, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)
Derek Walcott=not from South Africa
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)
I know, I know -- I just meant that they both have an ultraformal and blunt style that I think of as British Colonial.
― Eazy, Thursday, 19 July 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)
http://subdivided_we_stand.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/shirl_1.jpg
― The Yellow Kid, Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/2003/coetzee.jpg http://3quarksdaily.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/walcott2.jpg
― Eazy, Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)
That was fun. When can we do it again?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 20 July 2007 01:14 (eighteen years ago)
(Also, I really enjoyed the late arrival of the Shirley Hemphill pic)
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 20 July 2007 01:16 (eighteen years ago)
man that's really disappointing to hear that moody only tips 10%. motherfucker is wealthy.
― hstencil, Friday, 20 July 2007 01:29 (eighteen years ago)
moody was a dick to me when i met him too. gave a little lecture to a class once, was pompous as all hell. and to boot, he's not as good a writer as my prof is (imho), so that sealed the deal.
btw prof is Dan Chaon. also my advisor. he sends me mp3s of songs he likes once in a while great guy.
― the table is the table, Friday, 20 July 2007 01:50 (eighteen years ago)
Moody was not a dick to me when I met him, but it was at a poetry reading and whatever he read was totally boring. Which is SORTA like being a dick to me.
― Casuistry, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:01 (eighteen years ago)
Ha, table is rapidly becoming the official name-dropper of NYC lit.
― nabisco, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:07 (eighteen years ago)
I WANTED THAT SPOT
I don't remember Moody being dickish when I had drinks with him.
Although we were all drinking in a pub in London, so tipping was a non-issue, haha.
― tokyo rosemary, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:20 (eighteen years ago)
nabisco, did you ever finish reading all those Dalkey Archive books?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:32 (eighteen years ago)
Wait, do we have Moody confirmation?
― John Justen, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:32 (eighteen years ago)
that he's a dick? ever read one of his books?
― hstencil, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:41 (eighteen years ago)
btw prof is Dan Chaon.
He is a really good writer.
― Eazy, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:46 (eighteen years ago)
I went up to Northwestern a few years ago to hear him give a reading. He read a story about killing a dog, if I remember right.
― Eazy, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:50 (eighteen years ago)
Wait, which Dalkey books? The list of Dalkey books I have read is short and plagued by abadonment:
At Swim-Two-Birds - Flann O'Brien Cigarettes - Harry Mathews Lucy Church Amiably - Gertrude Stein (INCOMPLETE) Pierrot Mon Ami - Raymond Queneau Sabbatical: A Romance - John Barth The Age of Wire and String - Ben Marcus The Barnum Museum - Steven Millhauser The Conversions - Harry Mathews The Great Fire of London: A Story With Interpolations and Bifurcations - Jacques Roubaud (INCOMPLETE) The Last Days - Raymond Queneau The Sinking of the Odradek Stadium - Harry Mathews (*) The Third Policeman - Flann O'Brien Wittgenstein's Mistress - David Markson
(* = this totally would have been an incomplete if it weren't the second-to-last book left unread during a 15-hour flight back from east Africa, or if Vanity Fair sucked even slightly less)
― nabisco, Friday, 20 July 2007 04:39 (eighteen years ago)
Some similar footnote should go for The Conversions too, actually, but for some reason Mathews is one of few writers I will keep soldiering on with even when I'm totally mystified and not getting much out of it.
― nabisco, Friday, 20 July 2007 04:42 (eighteen years ago)
http://domainamerica.net/Winget/Photos2006/pictures/maroon-squat.jpg
― Hurting 2, Friday, 20 July 2007 04:49 (eighteen years ago)
bump
Wait, do we have Moody confirmation? Wait, do we have Moody confirmation? Wait, do we have Moody confirmation?
inquiring minds want to know
― dmr, Friday, 20 July 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)