Absinthe - now that it's legal again, will you drink it?

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According to Lucid manufacturers (www.drinklucid.com), creating Absinthe according to traditional standards actually makes a drink that meets US regulations and does not contain the toxic chemical thujone, which is why it was banned. That and hysterical lies, I guess.

62% alcohol, though. No wonder they thought thujone made you hallucinate. Is this much alcohol really necessary?

Will you drink it?

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

What year is this? 1998?

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

2007, why?

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

so it was banned because it met US regulations? I don't understand.

CharlieNo4, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, this is about 10 years out of date.

I'm never drinking absinthe again. The hallucinations were too much. Plus, it tastes vile.

Klaus M. Flanger, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

Lucid is authentic absinthe and it's brand new to the US.

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

so it was banned because it met US regulations?

No, it was banned due to hysteria and lies, I guess.

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

and was thought to contain toxic thujone, which it doesn't.

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

Should have been banned for being shite.

Matt DC, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

If it doesn't contain wormwood (which is the stuff that does make you hallucinate) then you might as well be drinking meths. Bleurgh.

Klaus M. Flanger, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

It does contain wormwood. It's the authentic recipe. Cripes, do your research.

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

For you too lazy to go to visit the site fuXors:

How were you able legally to import Lucid into the US if Wormwood is illegal?

Wormwood is not illegal as long as the finished product meets applicable standards for content. We found that by adhering to the strict techniques used over a century ago, the result was not only a genuine, historically accurate product, but a product that also happens to meet US requirements relating to alcoholic beverages.
Is Wormwood responsible for hallucinations or is this a myth?

The reputation of Wormwood as a hallucinogen is largely based on the politically motivated publicity that was given to Thujone, a chemical contained in Wormwood, back in the late 1800's and early 1900's. However, modern studies have conclusively demonstrated that humans are unable to detect (or experience any effects from) the presence of Thujone when consumed in test samples containing relevant concentrations. Moreover, thanks to T.A. Breaux's modern testing of vintage bottles of Absinthe from over 100 years ago, we now know that, just as with Lucid, most of the high quality Absinthes from the 1800's would meet today's US standards for content, further discrediting the theory that Thujone had any real relevance to the Absinthe experience. In any event, we believe that if you consume Lucid responsibly and in moderation, there should be no unusual effects.
Does Lucid contain Thujone?

Lucid has been tested and it meets US and EU standards for content. It is worth noting that using modern equipment, T.A. Breaux, the distiller of Lucid, has analyzed dozens of bottles of traditional, high-quality vintage Absinthe from the Belle Époque period and has determined that quality Absinthe that was properly made typically did not have any significant Thujone content- even 100 years ago.
Is Lucid safe to consume?

As with all alcoholic beverages, Lucid should be consumed in moderation, particularly because it contains 62% alcohol. Aside from the alcohol content, however, nothing about Lucid is less "safe" than any other alcoholic beverage. We strongly recommend diluting Lucid before consuming. We always encourage our customers to drink responsibly. Moreover, never use Lucid near open flame or ignite Lucid, intentionally or otherwise - this is NOT a traditional way to prepare Absinthe and can be very dangerous.

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

Cripes, go back to 1998, when the big absinthe trend was already over.

Klaus M. Flanger, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

Cripes, I didn't care then and don't care now, trendoid. I was just curious if there was any interest in this crap.

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

Absinthe - now that it's legal again, will you drink it? are you goth?

bnw, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

So, Klaus M. Flanger is a goth who Cliff Clavined his supposed hallucinations from thujone?

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

OKAY FINE I WILL DRINK IT

wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

let me know how it is, will you?

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

1998 was a good year to ask about absinthe, it's true, but the belief that there is a point to be scored about the correct year to ask a fashionable question is extremely tiresome and boorish.

Most absinthe appears to be lolly water with food colouring. Often, on the label, there is a concerted effort to create the mystique of a relationship between the modern drinker and the crazed Romantic artist of fin-de-siecle Paris.

If you like ouzo, Doub's is pretty decent. La Fee is crap, as is all violently green coloured absinthe. Zelena, if you can find it, is nice and dirty. I doubt that the thujone content of any of these is capable of making a mouse hallucinate. As for the alcohol content, well, yes, that is closer to moonshine than whisky, but also harder to drink in great quantities. A joint and a glass of vodka will do far more for you if you're an artist looking for inspiration than a whole bottle of absinthe. The latter will certainly make you talk shit and put you to bed with your head spinning, and that will be the alcohol content.

moley, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

If anyone's reading anything I write, I'd like to mention that thujone = hallucination is, apparently, not true and that what distinguishes Lucid from whatever came out in 1998 is the fact that it is 100% real authentic absinthe with NO thujone (because thujone was not present in absinthe and, according to tests, thujone does not make you hallucinate, anyway).

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

i had some the other day --- i can't remember which kind --- it smelled a little like socks but ended up tasting good.

pj, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

That's not actually true - authentic 19th Century absinthe DOES have a v small amount of thujone in it, it is present in wormwood and a small quantity stays in the drink - however as you say it's not much of a hallucinogen.

xpost

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

In fact, what you quoted upthread says exactly that!

quality Absinthe that was properly made typically did not have any significant Thujone content- even 100 years ago
not significant != none

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

!= does not equal "does not"!

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

All's I'm sayin' is whatever. Now we got the authentic shit, not the fake shit. Who's going to drink it?

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

Looks like you are on your own in this "shit-drinking", meinen Freund.

Klaus M. Flanger, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

i suspect nobody cares enough to reply. i guess i might, but i'm in no big rush.

xpost.

CharlieNo4, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Seems like it would be worth a try, especially as a fan of herbal liqueurs.

patita, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/96/260768879_7bb31839a0.jpg

deej, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

If you want to hallucinate, $5 worth of LSD will likely do far more than any quantity of absinthe you could consume in one setting, at 1/10th the price.

libcrypt, Thursday, 26 July 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

where can i get some of that lsd stuff you speak of?

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

i'd try it. i had absinthe a few times in the czech republic but i don't it actually had wormwood in it. i'm curious about the hallucinations tbh.

bell_labs, Thursday, 26 July 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

though i dont recommend drinking red wine, then whiskey, then absinthe unless you want really awful colored vomit.

bell_labs, Thursday, 26 July 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

Absinthe - now that it's legal again, will you drink it? are you goth?

-- bnw, Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:13 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

HAHA otm.

"Come into my chamber decorated with dead roses, where we may partake of absinthe and peruse my collection of Aubrey Beardsley reproductions."

kenan, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

how weird that it's a goth thing. When I think of all the goths I've known my whole life, they seem mostly to be weird sober people who are unsure of their sexuality. But, then, I never did get to know them very well. I never saw them drunk or drinking, but they probably do that in the dark homemade parlor.

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

Where is the outrage over the black market sale of cheap Mexican Novocaine and its shameful abuse by faddish teenagers? I hear Michigan is rife with this problem.

Aimless, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

faddish teens are getting all numb and then what?

dean ge, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.imageyenation.com/images/blog-gallery/tu_jin_sheng_crotch_kick.jpg

kenan, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/graphics/nails.JPG

kenan, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

hell yes, i will now drink absinthe.

http://www.drinklucid.com/

andi, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

absinthe tastes like someone is trying to ruin your life and no one will ever convince me anything fun can come out of it.

jessie monster, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

i think that the key is to be already pretty drunk when you drink it so you don't notice the taste as much.

also doing the sugar/spoon/lighter thing

bell_labs, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

lighter?

kenan, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

to light the sugar on fire.

bell_labs, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

Never did that. We always just dripped water over the sugar. I mean, not "always," because I've had exactly three glasses of this stuff in my life.

kenan, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

People who are basing their notion of how absinthe tastes on the Czech stuff will be pleasantly surprised by Lucid, which just tastes like a more complexly herbal, less sweet pastis (but not unsweet -- sugaring it is overkill).

eater, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

me and c4rey swigged absinthe straight out of a bottle at the magician once!

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, the one time I drank absinthe was at the house of two VEDDY SPo0o0o0o0oky long-time goff buddies who had bought, no kidding, SPo0o0o0oky pale-colored contact lenses for the occasion. The occasion being drinking a bottle of absinthe they ordered that cost $150-ish with shipping. Taking shots in their totally '70s grandma-looking orange fridged kitchen.

It tastes better tan Pernod FWIW. But then, my guide on when to drink Pernod is: after you've finished all the other alcohol in the house. including the mouthwash and cough syrup.

Abbott, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

You swigged absinthe straight out of the bottle at Caffe Falai a week or so ago, the schef!

eater, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

I believe Pernod was invented as an absinthe replacement after it was outlawed in, like, every civilized country in the world.

kenan, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

What do they do? I direct your attention to the definitve source on the WWW:Novocaine Abuse

Aimless, Thursday, 26 July 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

There's some kind of 80% "black absinthe" available at a shop down the road from me. Its over $100 for a bottle so fuck that shit, but when my soon to be new flatmate was last over he bought a bottle of some $70 chzech stuff and said it got him pretty wrecked. I dont think I could stomach the stuff enough to see what it did.

Trayce, Thursday, 26 July 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

You fuckin guys.

I will be buying a bottle or two of this.

Not goth. Just a Hemingway wannabe.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 26 July 2007 23:10 (eighteen years ago)

cripes!

i was enjoying it as a comedy get-stoned-by-drinking substitute until i decided to mix half a bottle (made up properly with sugar etc) with about an ounce of grass and woke up on new year's day (can't remember which year) staring into the fucking abyss.

seriously. never a-fucking-gain. that was dark.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 26 July 2007 23:21 (eighteen years ago)

I've had a bottle since Christmas 2003 which I've got about a third of the way through. It's 89.9%. I'm fairly sure it isn't 'authentic'. I pretty much couldn't give a fuck

DJ Mencap, Friday, 27 July 2007 08:58 (eighteen years ago)


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