Can we talk about the ongoing Man vs. Wild controversy?

Sucks for Stroud. All this time he looks like the wuss because he complains constantly, turns out he complains constantly because he has it rough and Grylls has been cheating.

There should be a Eustace Conway show.

From the first episode I watched, I thought how stupid the premise was. All these cameramen around him. How could he possibly be in any real danger? You know the camera crew has plenty of food and water, guns, matches, knives, etc. They're not going to sit by while he dies in the wild. When he started a fire, they didn't show the actual ignition. They showed him playing with sticks and then cut to the fire. I'm sure during the break they pulled out a zippo and started it.

yeah totally unsurprising all of it

the guy himself is a totally amusing drama queen tho

link please?

ok, gr80, here you go: http://www.reuters.com/article/televisionNews/idUSN2934925920070730

I like how he has to piss on something at least once per episode

He pissed on something once. I'm far more concerned about the stays at the hotel than I am the pissing. This show is so over.

He's pissed on something in each of the two episodes I saw, one in the scottish highlands and the other in... Iceland, or someplace like that?

oh, I was thinking of the one in the desert. I don't remember the other two pissings.

there was an instance where he was on a raft he'd made and had to piss on something to sterilize it...? the other time I remember he was trying to make a "hot water bottle" for himself to keep him warm, and he filled it with his own urine, natch

also drank his urine in one ep

pretty sure drinking water squeezed from elephant crap was the piece de resistance of the survival tv genre, though

wow, I guess you're right. He is a pissy mofo.

Survivorman is so much better and always has been. What is about Bear that makes him seem like such a pussy hound?

It's obv a very douchey thing to have done, and I'll constantly be wondering which bits aren't totally legit, but I'll still watch the show. Survivorman I haven't seen but a few episodes of, but they're were muy boringo.
Duh he had a crew by him and obv wasn't in any "real" danger, I don't think that detracts from the show. "I need to know this dude might die, otherwise, pfft, who cares?". It's plainly obv that he will survive plus not get badly injured, or else you would've read about it way before the episode even had a chance to air. Also, it does list a "survival expert" in the credits, though granted it doesn't make clear what services exactly said expert provided.

This show was never anything other than unrealistic, unintentional comedy of the highest order. It's great! Never really assumed that he was actually roughing it, anyway. They've taken all the reruns off the air for the month of August (I suppose because of the controversy?) and I'm annoyed.

drinking water squeezed from elephant crap

that one was soo fucked up. he gnawed on raw zebra after the hyenas were done w/ it!

and then went to the holiday inn to brush his teeth

What little I saw of "Man v Wild" was full of such dangerous, terrible advice that my friends and me started to call it "Casualtyman"

Les Stroud rules, eh?

yeah another one I saw boiled down to "if you are being chased by a nonexistent bear, jump feet first off a cliff into water where you don't know how deep it is"

He's big on diving into freezing bodies of water. So he can reiterate just how bad it is to get your clothes wet, of course.

Both shows are weakest in the snow or on water - I want to watch them catch fish and build tree forts, not trudge endlessly through a frozen wasteland.

you must watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzxsqkxHDVQ

super lol!

new season starting soon, right? he's going to have to seriously injure himself during shooting if he wants any credibility.