Come anticipate Shoot 'Em Up with me

Giamatti should be front and center with that look.

MONICA BELLUCCI ALREADY HAS GUNS

so did anyone actually see this

I saw it. It's this year's version of Crank

Yes. It bear comparison with both Crank and Children Of Men.

Lies, lies all lies.

Crank was funny and well-directed.
This was a steaming pile of shit.

Milo is understating the case against Shoot Em Up here. Although Crank wasn't nearly as good as Transporter 2.

True Transporter 2 is best, but Shoot 'Em Up was a better choreographed shooting film. And has some slightly better gags.

"Crank was funny and well-directed."

Okay the former I can maybe see, but the latter? Puhleeze.

Milo is understating the case against Shoot Em Up here. Although Crank wasn't nearly as good as Transporter 2.

this is OTM on all accounts. shoot 'em up is truly fucking painfully terrible. crank is ehh. transporter 2 is awesome.

i liked this movie a lot

good way to burn 85 minutes or w/e

not worth seeing in the theater. I would've loved to see Crank in the theater though.

still want to see this

though i totally don't get if it's action or action-comedy or like meta-action-comedy or whatever

i think stuff like this and Smokin' Aces are kind of a genre unto themselves now, basically the same as 90's Pulp Fiction ripoffs but without much of the pretension to being especially hip or smart. like that Mel Gibson movie Payback but more fun and intentionally mindless.

Yeah I get the same vibe, shit that's Tarantino-esque in that it's humorous and crime-capery, but doesn't pretend to go after anything more substantial.

i liked this movie a lot

-- J0rdan S., Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:32 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Jordan S you are dead to me

Yeah I get the same vibe, shit that's Tarantino-esque in that it's humorous and crime-capery, but doesn't pretend to go after anything more substantial.

hey are youse guys talking about movies from KOREA AND HONG KONG

I'm no quentin hater but calling this genre, such as it is, "tarantino-esque" is a bit revisionist/hollywood centric

the big hit was a pioneer in this HK ripoff genre

sorry dude idk what to tell you. i mean you are asked to ditch your disbelief before you enter into the theatre and if you can rid yourself of that then it's pretty thrilling tbh.

as it exists today, that is

the big hit seems totally korean to me but that's probably because I never saw the hk film the koreans were ripping off

in my mind, the korean crime caper films are typically more likely to be parody/homage than hk

xpost no i know for sure re: ditching disbelief, i sought this out to see on that basis. its just poorly done, poorly cut, written, acted. the absurdity aspect of the shit actually going down is ok by me

kirk wong--who directed the big hit--hasn't done anything since. back in hk he was a pretty big name. did organized crime and triad bureau, crime story, rock n roll cop, etc. he was like lumet--with stunts!

I'm no quentin hater but calling this genre, such as it is, "tarantino-esque" is a bit revisionist/hollywood centric

-- El Tomboto, Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:51 AM

fair enough!

payback is trying to be a whole 'nother thing (ie point blank-style noir).1

But much grittier and less witty than the orig stuff

like that Mel Gibson movie Payback but more fun and intentionally mindless.

RONG. I don't even see the comparison (Payback is black comedy-noir, Smokin' Aces and Shoot 'em up are cartoon action flicks).

But there's no conceivable way something in this genre could be more fun than the either cut of Payback.

ps Payback is fucking awesome.

i didn't remember the original cut of payback all that well, but really enjoyed the new cut i saw a few months ago.

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Shoot Em Up >>>>>>>>>>>>> Smokin Aces, better set pieces, more charismatic performers, doesn't get emo at the end, etc, etc.

i ever so slightly preferred this to Children Of Men.

Both movies have great action sequences and Clive Owen protecting a baby. One tries to sell ridiculous sci-fi as haunting social commentary, the other has "Ace Of Spades."

this movie is fuckin ridiculous. and lame.

the big hit was awesome tho.

though i totally don't get if it's action or action-comedy or like meta-action-comedy or whatever

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 10 January 2008 02:38 (2 hours ago) Link

Meta action comedy is the closest. It's deliberately way way over the top, and tries for laughs (but fails) there are a number of clangingly obvious comparisons of the Giamatti/Owen rivalry to Bugs vs Fudd. I think these are supposed to make you aware of the live-action cartooniness of it all (which couldn't possibly be missed - it has everything but animated birds flying around the heads of people who get punched) and also predispose viewers to like it, since presumably everyone likes looney toons. What it did for me, though, was make me wish I'd spent my money at Vulcan renting Tex Avery shorts.

man i miss vulcan so much now that i'm further north.

This was so fucking bad. I thought it was directly comparable to Crank as well, would've preferred watching Crank again instead of this pile of shit.

i ever so slightly preferred this to Children Of Men.

-- da croupier, Thursday, 10 January 2008 03:56 (3 hours ago) Link

The fuck?

oh god i saw this earlier this week. it is something i would expect troy duffy to make after overhearing a conversation between two film students in his crappy bar. first action scene was the best, but even during that i could tell the schtick was going to get old very, very fast. and it did. like, before the end of the scene.

crank comparisons OTM. crank had much better jumping out of planes and fighting as falling. tons of other movies had better jump down centre of stairwell scene.

i can't abide stupid shit that thinks it isn't stupid shit. at least crank is honest.

also, clive owen was wasted and paul giamatti was awful. so it loses more points there.

Just got this thru netflix. It's hilariously disposable, but I enjoyed it.

Soundtrack was ace, too.

i almost watched this the other day but watched a really trippy anime instead

couldn't make it past the first 5 minutes

i liked it. a lot. while i was watching it. i don't think about it much these days. it was a little less cloying than Smokin' Aces, though SA had the Make-Up on the sdtrk.

i can't abide stupid shit that thinks it isn't stupid shit

sums it up nicely. also, giamatti is awful in it.

this was really awful. adding a few self-aware jokes about how cliched action films are does not make your film a clever and insightful take on the genre

this movie pretty much sucked balls.

i don't remember a damn thing about this movie

i just thought i remembered a few scenes from it but they were actually from that jolie movie where she can curve bullets

this was a cute bugs bunny cartoon

this was probably the worst movie i've ever seen, or at least a top-5 contender