personally i felt cheated and let down by the sequel despite the blandishments of mlle béart's significant beauty.
basically she's selfish and insane! she stops up the water supply for the ENTIRE TOWN just to get back at her father's tormentors. why didn't she just stop up the spring from the first movie, the one that's now watering auteuil's carnations? WHO KNOWS. yet we're supposed to sympathise with her.
and don't even get me started on the twist about who her grandfather is.
GRRR
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 August 2007 11:21 (eighteen years ago)
watched this only yesterday, the first one anyway (giant rabbits!), for the first time since university. neglected to tape the second so will have to wait until they come around again.
― koogs, Monday, 6 August 2007 12:29 (eighteen years ago)
the first one was so full of so many great moments. and it truly felt epic, even though it was really just about a little patch of land in a little french backwater, and a very straightforward story. the sequel felt, conversely, very small, even though it was about generational blahblah and the unintended consequences of bad intentions blahblahblah
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 August 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)
i love both. i have to say, i really like the sequel, even tho you have to suspend your disbelief in a way - she is completely crazy/selfish, but the drama wouldn't be the same if she wasn't. to me it was just part of the epic nature of the whole story, it had to tie together very theatrically.
― Surmounter, Monday, 6 August 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)
although i remember the first one as being more romantic in that languid, french way - seductive. definitely the kind of movie that makes me wanna just pick up and leave Brooklyn.
― Surmounter, Monday, 6 August 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)
the first one was full of community scenes, class vs. class, outsider vs. insider, folk wisdom vs. modern methods - and turned most of these binaries inside out, so far that sometimes they ended up back where you expected them - now as a result of evidence and a journey, rather than preconception.
the way the villagers treated the family when they went into town for bread was shocking, for instance! (i had the luxury of watching both of these with a person who grew up in southern france. she wasn't shocked by how the villagers treated the family AT ALL.)
she also mentioned that the two movies tell the story of just ONE book, so the sequel is really part II, and almost isn't meant to stand on its own. i don't think it can, really. (the first one could, and does, though.) that said, there are all kinds of loose ends i wanted to hear about and never did! what about the adorable old couple who lived on the other side of the property, who taught manon how to snare birds?
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 August 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)
yes i was just wondeirng about that couple. well that's the thing - i was almost thrown by the word "sequel" because i always looked at it as just Part 2. that's really cool u watched it with a southern france native, that must have been very very interesting.
and yes that's what i loved about the first one were all those community scenes, class issues and cultural values. that was really interesting to watch.
Part 2 to me is almost like the 2nd half of Wuthering Heights - the thriller portion, u know?
― Surmounter, Monday, 6 August 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)
lose/lose
― Eric H., Monday, 6 August 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)
oh whatever. jean de f. is the most watched non-english flick ever!
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 August 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)
Not quite, probably.
http://www.listsofbests.com/list/9446
― Eric H., Monday, 6 August 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)
i read that off the DVD box, i have no idea if it's true
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 August 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)
haha - all-time french box office winners:
1 TITANIC 2 ASTERIX AND OBELIX: MISSION CLEOPATRE
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 August 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)
Titanic huh...
well jean de florette is definitely popular or whatever. i think it's also commonly used in french courses in the states.
― Surmounter, Monday, 6 August 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)