the only one of me

As the old Plymouth Argyle footie chant went: "There's only one Barrington Belgrave!"

lots of people are called barrington you nitwit

there is only one person called hystercine

Publicizing these names will only ruin them. :(

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My best guess, BTW: she was given a public-pool water birth by a French classicist and named to commemorate her transition from le uterus to la piscine

I got Hystercine beat, There's only ZERO people named "4Real"

One teenage boy, Amcher, had been named for the first thing his parents saw upon reaching the hospital: the sign for Albany Medical Center Hospital Emergency Room

He's just going to spend his whole life getting treated as a misprinted or sloppily written Archer.

(Which might work out for him: I feel like some people who always have to correct others on their names have this weird way of always claiming the upper hand in the transaction.)

"My apologies. I have a nephew named Anfernee, and I know how mad he gets when I call him Anthony. Almost as mad as I get when I think about the fact that my sister named him Anfernee."

I'd pronounce it "Armchair".

"hyster" meaning womb, "cine" as in "plasti-"

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Spider Poem

Sticky spider webs catching fly.
Poisonous spider creepy.
Insects fly in the shining webs.
Delicious spider have spotty.
Every spider make big webs.
Running around the country.

spider! spider! spider!
by Harriet

byron!

(harriet can portably vote by now)

oops

her writing was more original then like 95% of the stuff I've seen in workshops including my own.

Or maybe Hystercine = cinema of the womb!

Named after fetal propensity for kicking mightily during Cassavetes screenings, but never during Jarmusch

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Item I give and bequeath unto my Granddaughter [Allifain Carmalt] and to her heirs -- one Cow and Calf. In full consideration of all I mean to give her.

From the will of Mary GRANT signed on 18 Mar 1800 in Onslow Co., NC.

There is a question mark inserted after "Carmalt", but I like to think the Allifain is unambiguous.

Oh dear, she had slaves.

d'you think there are more names in circulation now than in 1800, or less? (this is another thread really)

Wait, Mark, do we know how this is pronounced? Is it HISS-ter-seen, or a Greek-style hiss-TER-sin-ee?

More now, I'd have thought. Though I guess there was even more variety of spelling then.

(or rather hiss-TAIR-sin-ee)

Surely it's Allisain with a long s.

from alba's link:

Fereby GRANT was born before 1793 in Onslow Co., NC. Parents: Bazel GRANT and Phoebe WATSON.

Bazel GRANT was born between 1780 and 1790 in Onslow Co., NC. Parents: Alexander GRANT.

Benejah GRANT was born in Onslow Co., NC. Parents: Reuben GRANT and Elizabeth ELLIOT.

weirdly enuff, acc.this site, it's "her-teh-seen"

as you can see, she's not just any quilter

Casuistry stole my post. {shakes fist impotently}

We're all just going to pretend it was a different Bazel Grant, right?

Well, I'm glad I didn't wait to figure out how to type Alliſain

NABISCO OTM

I love names that arent really obvious in how they're pronounced. Like Aloysius.

d'you think there are more names in circulation now than in 1800, or less?

In England/US/etc. or in the world? There are, at the very least, far more PEOPLE than in 1800.

no it was the same one - 13yo Bazel married and knocked up 23yo Phoebe

Phoebe WATSON was born about 1770. She married Rigdon Pitts and bore children into the 1810s, so she must have been born near the time of Nickodemus and Rhoda. She died before Sep 1825. Parents: Jeremiah WATSON and Elizabeth HOUSTON.

She married to Bazel GRANT. Children were: Fereby GRANT, Stephen GRANT, Urbane GRANT, Isaac GRANT.

She married to Rigdon PITTS on 3 Dec 1800 in Onslow Co., NC. Children were: Hardy PITTS , Richard PITTS, Rhoda PITTS , Boneta PITTS, Elizabeth PITTS.

yes i know there are more people -- so are there more or less names, or exactly the same number, but more of each of them (except hystercine)

urbane is a nice name

i like the way when you read that it sounds like you have to stand up and shout PITTS every time

B-b-but Bazel might have been 3 when Fereby was born...?

so cute yet so manly

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Heave, you claim Bazel was 13, but consider --

- Fereby GRANT was born before 1793
- Bazel GRANT was born between 1780 and 1790

-- so he could have been, like, you know, two.

I think it was some kind of drunken embarrassing uncle, and they just blamed it on Bazel so they could marry him off.

embarrassment may not have been so easily sidestepped

I think there might be more names now (more names in circulation, not counting ones prob basically retired). Here in the Deep (ouch) South, African-Americans sometimes make up names so their kids will have something unique, reportedly. One young mother-to-be planned to take a syllable from her mother's name, another from her grandmother's, and "sh-sh-sh" because she associated it with the sound of waves (not that this isn't a generational thing: that child's grandmother later wrote a followup Letter To The Editor: "I can't even pronounce my gandbaby's name, and my friends have the same problem in their families!" Not that it need be so radical. Just change a a letter and you get Tevin Campbell. Although--where is he now--?)

none of these names are as unique as "4real"

i think there's a lot been retired though -- that's why i was interested

i. most people use a name that's already in circulation (so ignore them)
ii. a small percentage use a new-under-the-sun name their parents invented, or maybe a one-off resuscitation -- this lasts as long as they do then falls back into disuse = slight rise (followed by return to norm)
iii. a teenytiny percentage of the one-offs get to be famous, and lotsa ppl are named after em (example: elvis?) = very slight rise, as permanent addition
iv. but equally there are low-use names that fall completely out of use = slight fall (likely followed by no return to norm)

rrr i'm trying to think of the new deal program that became a girls name. Nyla?

by definition, uniqueness can't add to number in circulation -- that sounds like a weasel, but it's not really, cz the number of names actually extant in snapshot at any given moment (like NOW) is up or down on the number like NOW, given that x thousand have been born or died in the time it took to read this sentence

what i guess i'm asking is, does the rise even out with the fall (when did the "uniqueness" trend begin? is hystercine -- missisippi african-american in her mid-80-s -- an early outlier?

are there any bazels now? (it's the name of a village in austria and it's an extant surname, so ans = probably)

nambla

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Hystercine sounds like a pretty standard outlier name for the time, lotsa crazy-ass old people names out there

ummmmmm a google search combining "new deal" "girls name" and "nyla" returns exactly 1x hit, from um www.legislature.ru. also features text "muppets rainbow connection mp3" "yul brenner" (sic) and "anal milfs"

clearly onto something

xp lol

my grandfather and great-grandfather were named "Tirrie" (pronounced TIE-ree)

4ebby grant

"hystercine" sounds like something you'd see printed on the label of a mouthwash bottle. Or maybe one of those faint painted adverts from long ago on the side of an old house.

exactly -- lots then, lots now, it all evens out

anal milfs is a nice name

it sounds like that cz it's kinda greeky, and patent medicine and chemical inventions 100 years ago reached to greek for authority (google history of plasticine!)

not so much printed on the label of a mouthwash bottle though

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just in case i never posted abt him on ilx:
spencer horsey de horsey

^^ was he the painter who refused to do nudes, for which he was called "clothes horsey"?

he was lord cardigan's father-in-law

My dad's great-uncle or something was named Recompense.

My Nan's name is Zeta, which seems quite uncommon nowdays.

Jaymc to thread to talk about that book about baby name popularity and their tendency to be revived every generation or so.

I ain't seeing anyone named Recompense, unfortunately.

My last name is obscure enough that all the US phone book listings (all six of them) are known relatives of mine and none have the same first name. I thought it would be common in the country of origin but few people there have ever heard it either.

My first name is boring and ordinary though.

hystercine sounds like medicine

the only one of me
no real than you are

not counting ones prob basically retired

I think there are definitely more names now as I don't suppose names are *completely* retired. Although fewer ppl go to church now there are still sufficient Christians around for the more unusual Biblical names like Uriah and Seth to survive.

also, the "craze" for giving girls the names of flowers (eg half the cast of Keeping Up Appearances) never completely died out....you get the odd Rose or Daisy still.

naming after slebs has definitely increased - wonder how many Beyoncés there are in the nation's nurseries right now?

naming after good qualities -- Faith, Hope, Charity, Prudence etc still goes on, if somewhat declined in popularity.

Then we have ppl naming their kids after things they like which dosen't fall into any of the above categories which is prolly the newest name generating route -- I have heard of a few girls called Chardonnay; I wouldn't rule out ppl using Nintendo or something like that as a name.

it's interesting that most of the new name-generating routes seem to be focussed on girls' names. Not hard to see why in the case of the flowers...the notion of prettiness. But why not name a boy whose parents hope to be tall and strong as Oak or Mountain? Doesn't happen for some reason. I can only think of Butch -- surely there must be some other e.g.'s

rock!

i don't believe naming after slebs has increased particularly -- victoria was a rare name until there was a queen called it, the difference now is there are more celebrities with one-off names (also sleb-hood is multicultural and allows names to pass across cultural barriers; but that mobility doesn't increase the total number in circulation, just the nature of the circulation) (were there other beyoncés before beyoncé?)

obviously once a name has entered the pool you could just treat it as latent forever and say it never really "retires" -- this would mean there are more names than ever before obv but that lots of names aren't being used currently, so "not being used currently (and unlikely to be revived)" is what i mean by "retired"

example of a dormant pool: aethelred, aethelfrith, aethelthrulf, all those pre-norman kings (there wz a brief fashion for them during the arts and crafts era but it never went beyond the nutjob core i don't think)

Hystercine looks like it ought to mean "womb movement", which is a pretty awesome thing to call a baby.

also sleb-hood is multicultural and allows names to pass across cultural barriers

Also some places (eg in Norway, esp in ruraler areas, esp in the 50s/60s etc), anglophony itself became a sort of automatic proxy for slebhood/coolness, ie lots of Norwegians were called Johnny, Ronny, Kenneth etc. Sometimes the understanding of the English language itself didn't really keep up with the ambitions, hence the guy (and haha I bet you thought your name was too ordinary to play any part here) who was not only named MARK but even TRADE MARK!

my name is just the poncey version of "signs his name with an x"

as noted on ilx dreams, my reaction to this thread was to dream I HAD A BABY

i am namin it "Hystercine Jauntyvoldemort de Horsey Toffle s"

Gave birth or conceived? Or both? Parthogenetic(?) dreams?

I met another Steve Mannion a few months back. We were related tho so perhaps it doesn't count.

was delivered of, so conceived in an earlier (unremembered) dream

i have no evidence it was parthogenetic!

yr pal the blessed virgin mark s

I wonder what St. Thomas Aquinas would have made of it

I'm the only one of me in the world I think.

Jauntyvoldemort

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on facebook there is someone named "Steviedonisa"