Best failed gaming console

No Dreamcast, no credibility. Well, okay, it wasn't the same level of failure, but man it was awesomely underratedly sublimely neat. TG16 didn't fail too hard though, if I remember correctly. At least not on the proportions of the others. Also, lump Sega CD w/ the 32X?

No Dreamcast, no credibility.

haha xpost

Colecovision

no wait Intellivision

AMIGA

Dude, DC was NOT a failure!!! It reigned supreme from its release on 9.9.99 to whenever the PS2 came out. It's still regarded as one of the, if not the, best system today. And there's still a huge DC Emulation scene going on, I think.

and yes, Sega CD goes w/ Sega 32x

i guess.

Amiga was more of a computer than a gaming console, no? I had one with a box full of illegal games from my uncle, it was wicked either way.

I agree that DC was one of the best, but it was also a huge part of why Sega no longer makes consoles --> means a failure if not from a gaming standpoint, a business one, surely?

I had a friend who had the Jaguar, it blew my mind at the time. I think he only ever had the game that games with it, where you fly around shooting polygons?

Another friend (whose family was very Flandersesque) had Intellivision or whatever, that shit was hard.

The NEO GEO was an amazingly abject failure, proven by the fact that people would rather go to a movie theater just to pump quarters into the NEO GEO arcade booth machine instead of ever consider actually owning the console or buying the games.

DC Emulation scene is right --- nothing sweeter than every NES game on one CD to play in the glory od dreamcasted.

I had a Neo Geo Pocket Color with one game: Harvest Moon. And good luck finding any other games. A lot of people thought I made the thing up.

I knew a guy with one! Also had a Wonderswan Color. He LOVED the NGPC though, like it was a million times better than the GBC, but I never saw the magic.

I think the Jaguar is pretty much the only old console I've never felt any desire to emulate.

Oh I just remembered, the dude who had the Jaguar also had...wait for it...the ATARI LYNX!!

wo ist phantom?

http://www.cyberiapc.com/vgg/pics/atari_lynx2-3.jpg

the lynx brought one of my fave innovations that never caught on... left-right button-dpad switch. you could flick a switch and hold the thing upside down. i wonder if i would ahve been better at video games if this idea had caught on (i'm left handed ,you see)

I voted Turbo Grafx, a) for the Bonk games and b) Johnny Turbo:

http://sardius.team-coti.com/reviews/jturbo/jt1-2.jpg

DC Emulation scene is right --- nothing sweeter than every NES game on one CD to play in the glory od dreamcasted.

-- Abbott, Thursday, August 9, 2007 3:57 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

With the addition of Arcade Fire's "Funeral" and Aphex Twin's "...I Care Because You Do" and "On EP", you just summed up about 1/3 of my entire HS senior year.

You are young!

just turned 20!

It's got the arcade feel!

http://www.vesalia.de/pic/cd32.jpg

Dreamcast had the greatest computer game of all-time: San Francisco Rush 2049.

TurboGrafx def the winner - we knew it better as the PC Engine in the UK (well that's what many mags called it). I wanted one for Christmas 1990 so bad and was disappointed to end up with an Amiga 500 - ungrateful brat that i was. Then I played the Days Of Thunder game which was see how long you can go waiting for it to load before turning off the power supply in disgust.

It's got the arcade feel!

yeah I lol'ed at that too... I miss arcades.

that smell

altho I am definitely lookin forward to this this weekend

OMG ALL THE PINBALL!!!!!!

Babbage's at the local mall had a Neo-Geo setup for years - I never once saw them sell a system or game.

I was convinced for years (without seeing one) that Amiga was some magical computer that let you run any program from any operating system, so you could be both Mac and PC and whatever the IBM OS was in the early '90s. The reality was slightly less exciting.

I still have my Saturn, though I haven't used it in, I dunno, 6 or 7 years.

I got really stressed out once and found therapy in impulse-bidding on a Sega Saturn that came with NiGHTS into Dreams PLUS the pre-Dreamcast Analog controller! I was so excited; I'd heard the game described as a world where you magically fly around, and then as you explore you gradually figure out what you're supposed to do. and then when I got the game, I 'figured out' what to do immediately and found the repetitive game play extremely boring and poorly-designed. Boo.

OMG ALL THE PINBALL!!!!!!

I know! I don't think I've even ever played half those games - bummed their missing some oddball classics like the Indiana Jones or GnR games but hey you can't have everything.

i don't game at all but I could've sworn dreamcast was a pretty big deal around these parts.
also wasn't there a Sega console before the Genesis, around the same time as the first Nintendo? or maybe that was successful I dunno.

(don't worry, I'm not voting)

Sega Master System

I remember the only kid in my neighborhood who had a TG-16 was the kid from Poland

The Saturn is the only thing on that list that I both owned, and owned more than five games for. TG-16 I had, but never really got into. I don't remember owning anything for it besides Keith Courage, the Bonk games, Legendary Axe and J.J. and Jeff. Maybe if I had been older and more money to try games (or could find a place that rented TG-16 cards, I think that was the main issue) I would feel differently. I look forward to exploring the VC library at some point when I get a Wii.

i got a sega 32x for my 12th birthday...i played the hell out of Doom on it

DC was the best. The poll should have the PS3 on it, just for completeness.

I actually own one now! As a piece of hardware, it's sweeeeeeeet. No complaints there, though the best thing to play on it right now besides my large PS2 library is an upgraded Xbox game. It will come in third this generation, I don't doubt that, but it stands a good chance of becoming one of the best if not the best failed gaming console, for sure. Especially if they manage to keep the exclusives they still have.

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the neo-geo was great, that whole "games costing $250 per cart" thing kinda killed it at birth though. (i seem to remember that the original idea was to buy the console and rent the games rather than buy them - or this is the way they did it in japan, at least.)

saturn was amazing, except for the terrible daytona conversion which (i would argue) killed it. sega rally, VF2, nights, panzer dragoon zwei etc all more than made up for it but the damage was done.

pc engine - best r-type conversion
jaguar - TEMPEST 2000!!
3DO - the awesome original need for speed (yes really)
32x - virtua racing was a hell of a technical feat

have not a jot of interest: cd-i, virtual boy.

dreamcast would walk this though, that thing was DOA if ever a console was. myer (big department store chain in australia) sold a grand total of eight DCs in its first week here. pitiful.

it did well its first year in america though. good launch lineup too, probably better than the PS2's.

it was doomed from the start though, certainly.

Yeah, I remember being THE ONLY DUDE IN THE ENTIRE TOYS R US game section on Dreamcast's launch day (9/9/99, right?) there with my pre-order. It was spooky. Compare that to at least 30-40 dudes there for N64, and that was a lot back then. System launches nowadays, forget about it.

oh for sure latebloomer, if you weigh up the first year and a bit of DC in europe/the US (sept '99 - end of '00) it slaughters the first two years of PS2, easily.

I voted for virtual boy (keep in mind that my choice for the "best" really meant worst/most ridiculous) only for the fact that it was largely criticized for being incredibly bad for your eyes. That and it was just ridiculous.

Were there that many games for the Neo-Geo that you actually wanted to own? I can only think of the Metal Slug series and dozens of Japanese beat-em-ups, both much better fodder for arcades than to take home...

the Wario game for Virtual Boy was the shit, but I only got to play it in Toys R Us because my mom wouldn't let me buy one. Probably for the best, that was probably the only decent game the system ever saw.

haha only 14 VB games even came out here, there were only 22 counting imports.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Virtual_Boy_games

I still have a Dreamcast in my front room - it is great. Admittedly it is solely used for playing Wacky Races on but that's enough for me.

Playing Virtua Fighter on the Sega Saturn way back in '96 was some awesome shit, believe it or not. But I guess you had to be there.

Neo-Geo wins because it was the stuff that schoolyard myths and legends are made of.

guys 3DO is not a console. it's a standard!

I actually tried to convince my parents to get me an Amiga CD32. They refused. I had an Amiga 500, and they were very clear that I wasn't allowed to own a machine that was ONLY for games, it should have other uses as well.
I guess it wasn't an entirely bad idea, as I now make a decent living as a programmer.

Euh, anyways... I recall going to an Amiga expo (hmm, this must've been in 1993, when I was 13! And it was out of town! What a fantastic child) and being just blown away by the CD32. I was, on the other hand, only slightly impressed by those big-helmet Virtual Reality things. The helmet was HUGE, and the game both choppy and boring. But y'know... omg 3d and omg u look around by turning yr head.
My, what a gyp it would've been if I really had been given the CD32. I'm not sure if there were even released more games than "Diggers".

There were a couple of classic games that were initially released on the CD32 only but they ended up releasing them for the A1200 eventually to try and recoup some money 'cos no one bought the CD32.

TG-16 failed because it had tons of great games in Japan, but they were all ones that Nintendo had exclusive licenses for in the US. It was actually pretty sweet!

I'm tempted to vote for the Saturn since it had this friggin awesome version of Bomberman that worked with.. eight players? No weird extra crap they keep adding to new Bomberman games either.

i think the saddest thing about the virtual boy is that it pretty much ended gunpei yokoi's (creator of kid icarus, metroid, co-producer of super mario bros and inventor of game & watch and the game boy) career. dude was a fucking genius but after the vb flopped, nintendo basically pratically ostracized him from the company and he sadly passed in a car crash a year later.

Neo Geo was spoken of in a hushed tone ... only the richest of the rrich kids had one! Of course I never knew what the hell the games were for it, but it was like ... $900.

the games for Neo Geo looked so absolutely fucking gorgeous.

The only thing I remember about Neo Geo is Art of Fighting in every movie theater/small town arcade.

Virtual boy was fun, I remember renting one from Blockbuster and playing the tennis game.

All I remember about Sega Saturn is seeing 9000 commercials for it, thinking it wasn't any different from my Genesis, and knowing exactly 0 people who owned one.

Dreamcast had GREAT games (I was obsessed with the Sonic game where you could raise the little monster things and if you had the special memory card with the screen you could put your favorite monster thing ON THE MEMORY CARD and carry it around like a tamagotchi), but I vaguely remember an abundance of hardware issues/complaints about load times, etc.?

what about the game gear, btw?

i got a DC on launch day after saving up all summer for it by working at a fucking k-mart (please, don't ever work at one. fuckers didn't even turn on the air-conditioning in the middle of august just to save money).

i remember how blown away i was by Soul Calibur. it was the biggest leap in graphics quality from one generation to the next i've ever seen.

the thing with Saturn is Sega gave it a surprise release like 6 months early and nobody knew it was out. Sega has always made really stupid decisions about things like that.

had to go tg-16 (after giving the neo geo and saturn some serious thought). probs would've voted for dreamcast if it were on there but the tg-16 still had bonk, alien crush, so many great shooters... and splatterhouse!

http://games.gearlive.com/blogimages/splatterhouse_thumb.jpg

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Nobody voted for the 3DO!! That system had some AMAZING games for it. Return Fire. Theme Park. Star Control II. Gex. And the best versions of Road Rash and John Madden Football on any system!

Super Street Fighter II Turbo was good, too. I knew exactly one guy with a 3D0.

neo-geo slaughters 'em all. i never had one, but i have an emulator. all the snk fighter games for it are -great-. samurai showdown is the shit.

neo-geo pocket color is also pretty great, too.

yeah samurai shodown was my favorite snk game

oh wait, i was thinking those snk games were exclusive to neo-geo. they weren't exclusive to neo-geo, but they were definitely meant to be played on neo-geo. the neo-geo consoles were always a good three or four years ahead of everyone else, graphic-wise. i guess that's probably why the console and games for it were so damn expensive.

i own like half of those systems

they're all awesome

but not as awesome as the apple pippin

mr. snrub - dont forget Strahl, and that stupid pointless wizard

Looking at the release list for the Apple Pipin, I can't say I feel like I missed out on anything.

i miss the old funcoland games/systems list
i miss seeing things like "neo geo (system): $799.99"
"king of monsters: $249.99"

cheaper to buy a ticket to japan and buy one there with a bunch of games for $100

xp

sayyyy, that's an attractive release list! i dont know what youre talking about

whoah. i've never even heard of the apple pipin! and, really, i have a pretty good knowledge on all of the lesser consoles!

yeah wtf. cute pic Abbott but here's the release list:

Complete List of Apple Pippin Titles Released in the US and Japan

AI Shougi
CineNoir
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia
Cool Crafts
Exotic Sushi
Gundam Mobility Fleet 0079
Gus Goes to Cyberopolis
Gus Goes to Kooky Carnival
DL-Zone: Interactive Theater
Movieoke
Mr. Potato Head Saves Veggie Valley <--- killer app, amirite
Navigator
Pegasus Prime
Power Rangers Zeo vs. the Machine Empire
Racing Days
Shockwave: Invasion Earth 2019
Super Marathon
T-Break
Tarot Mystery
Telebi Works
Terror T.R.A.X.
Web Browser

that list cracks me up to this day
so sad
EXOTIC SUSHI~!

the apple pippin is the holy grail of shitty useless unwanted video game systems that nerds like me collect
ive never even seen one before, let alone played one

and the dumb thing is, id probably starch the inside of my pants if i ever had the prospect of owning one

I think I heard someone mention it once ten years ago and then never again

I wonder if Mr. Potato Head Saves Veggie Valley was anywhere near as good as Princess Tomato in the Salad Kingdom.

we all know there's just no chance of that

DC would have owned this poll. Did anyone ever finish Shenmue?

I had to watch the dvd that came with shenmue 2 to find out what happened in the original.

DC wasn't a failure, i dont think
it was just REALLY ambitious
bad marketing/poor planning did sega in
once microsoft got involved with xbox, they saw the writing on the wall

I don't know if it was a failure, but before it Sega made consoles, and after it they remade Sonic 2, a lot.

the dreamcast was years ahead of its time wrt online gaming. and i think it was probably the coolest looking console ever, next to the og sms.

really hurts that this isn't available in a language I can understand :-/

I love everything about the Dreamcast except the lousy controllers (too big for my big hands).

DC would have owned this poll. Did anyone ever finish Shenmue?

-- stet, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:36 (3 hours ago) Link

i finished one and two!

I finished one.

just saw this:

they remade Sonic 2, a lot.

If only! They've been remaking the 3D Sonic Adventure with increasingly diminishing returns. A 2D Sonic 2 remake with modern graphics would be a godsend compared to all that shit. I guess the DS games are as close as we'll get.

I only got so far into Shenmue 1, I wish they'd make the entire series.

Odd bit of history is that this game had the full 3d town of interactive pedestrians right before GTA3 came out.

i just bought a neo geo pocket color on ebay. what is wrong with me. also what games should i get.