Why don't some web addresses start with "www"?

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ILX's address, for example. There doesn't seem to be any difference between sites with or without "www", so what's the point of the whole "www" part anyway?

Tuomas, Friday, 10 August 2007 12:39 (eighteen years ago)

nothing at all. but the www part of a domain name is just a differentialtor for other subdomains such as mail. or ftp. or ilx. etc. the bit of the URL that provides information about the connection is the bit before the ://

Ed, Friday, 10 August 2007 12:41 (eighteen years ago)

But if there's no difference, why do sites need the "www" part? It'd be faster to type the address without it.

Tuomas, Friday, 10 August 2007 12:43 (eighteen years ago)

they don't need the www part

Heave Ho, Friday, 10 August 2007 12:57 (eighteen years ago)

Some do differentiate though: my company has a website at www.company.com , but company.com is the login screen to the intranet.

StanM, Friday, 10 August 2007 12:59 (eighteen years ago)

If I added up all the fractions of seconds I could have saved over the years by not typing www I will probably have long enough to soft boil an egg by the time I retire.

YOU BASTARDS! I MIGHT HAVE ENJOYED THAT EGG!

aldo, Friday, 10 August 2007 13:00 (eighteen years ago)

Still doesn't mean you'll be able to get to every website without using the www part though.

http://fragments.turtlemeat.com/www-domain-name-configuration.php

StanM, Friday, 10 August 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

I knew this would be a tuomas question.

I think the server configuration determines whether a site will be able to accessesed sans the www.

Ms Misery, Friday, 10 August 2007 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

By and large, the only reason to prefix domains with www. is that people expect it. There is no technical reason why a domain which has a web server must start thus, but even sophisticated WWW/Internet users often think that they've gotta put a www. in front of any URL they manually load in their browser. This is especially vexing when doing tech support for said users.

There's a particular contingent of folks who believe that no proper domain contains A (host) records. I don't buy that myself, but it is contrary to DNS standards that CNAME (alias) and other records (e.g., SOA) exist for a particular RR, so if you are interested in consistency and easy maintenance, there's a good reason to put yr WWW hosts under a subdomain, and www. is a fairly logical name to use. That way, you don't have to update multiple records when moving yr webhost.

libcrypt, Saturday, 11 August 2007 06:30 (eighteen years ago)

Its frustrating when trying to tell a clueless caller an address that *doesnt* have www, because they go and add it any damn way. "No, no www, just blah.server.com. Yes, it will work. NO, no www!"

I hate tech support.

Trayce, Saturday, 11 August 2007 06:36 (eighteen years ago)

To clarify, this isn't merely a DNS issue. As implied by Ms Misery, it's also an HTTP VHOST issue. Yr HTTP server and yr DNS must be aligned for www. and www.-less webhosting to work correctly.

libcrypt, Saturday, 11 August 2007 06:38 (eighteen years ago)

Its frustrating when trying to tell a clueless caller an address that *doesnt* have www, because they go and add it any damn way.

It's especially frustrating to see this issue crop up when dealing with level 2 tech support. These folks should KNOW better.

libcrypt, Saturday, 11 August 2007 06:39 (eighteen years ago)

I knew this would be a tuomas question.

1,000% OTM.

actually, i initially thought that it was a tuomas-parody question.

never mind me, carry on y'all ...

Eisbaer, Saturday, 11 August 2007 07:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://tuomas.youaremyfriend.com/

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Saturday, 11 August 2007 07:10 (eighteen years ago)

It was so annoying in radio when clients insisted that "www" be included in their script. It doesn't seem like much, but having to say "double-u, double-u, double-u, dot" takes up about the same amount of time you could use for a phone number or a tagged "Be there!" at the end.

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 11 August 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

http://no-www.org/

Alan, Saturday, 11 August 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

Some folks in the industry say dub-dub-dub or triple-dub.

libcrypt, Saturday, 11 August 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

triple dub is in the fuckin hizouse at d-home

El Tomboto, Saturday, 11 August 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

All my favorite URL jingles leave out the www:

• Freecreditreport.com!]
• Expedia....DOT COMMMM!
• Beep Beep! Dot com! To shop for cars online! (a local one w/the Warner Brother roadrunner)

Abbott, Saturday, 11 August 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

I love singing URLs.

Abbott, Saturday, 11 August 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

One time my aunt was having me type a URL at her computer and she read out the "WWW," but as I typed out the WWW, she chided me: "You know, you don't HAVE to type out the WWW." Using some crazy mild IT torture moves on me.

Abbott, Saturday, 11 August 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

I had an show host once go, "First you put in the three double-ya's...."

Pleasant Plains, Saturday, 11 August 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

I love that show host. I love that show host.

Abbott, Sunday, 12 August 2007 03:58 (eighteen years ago)

"First you make a roux..."

Abbott, Sunday, 12 August 2007 03:58 (eighteen years ago)

I knew this would be a tuomas question.

(Started by Tuomas, last updated 7 hours ago)

I'll bet.

Oilyrags, Sunday, 12 August 2007 11:30 (eighteen years ago)


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