Jewish(y) Deli Meat Smackdown

WACKY DELLY YEAH!!!

brisket

no MTLsmokedmeat, no credibility

Ugh, hard choice. I picked pastrami.

fuck yeah, pastrami

Does anyone know if there's any etymological connection between pastrami and that cured mean (Turkish?) called basturma?

Nevermind, etymonline comes through in a way I would not have expected:

1940, from Yiddish pastrame, from Rumanian pastrama, probably from Turk. pastrima, variant of basdirma "dried meat," from root *bas- "to press." The other possible origin of the Rumanian word is Mod.Gk. pastono "I salt," from classical Gk. pastos "sprinkled with salt, salted." Spelling in Eng. with -mi probably from influence of salami.

pastrami 4 life

I'm very curious about the Super Heeb sandwich:

http://www.timeout.com/newyork/resizeImage/htdocs/export_images/620/620.x600.eat.cpick.silo.jpg

Whitefish salad, horseradish cream cheese and flying-fish roe on a bagel.

http://www.timeout.com/newyork/article/11126/critics-pick

it's from russ and daughters, so it's probably fantastic.

Various cures and smokes in a brisket may be my favorite way to eat a cow.

no MTLsmokedmeat, no credibility

-- G00blar, Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:38 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

seriously, fuck this poll!

it ain't just hometown boosterism on my part... smoked meat really rules all.

how is smoked meat different from pastrami? (serious question)
i ate at Ben's like 17 years ago or something, i don't remember......

Smoked meat is like the best combination of pastrami and corned beef ever. That said I didn't like Ben's that much. Schwartz and the place across the street from Schwartz on the other hand completely ruled my world.

soooooooooo is this the time of the year that i yet again reveal to all of ilx that i used to think that "pastrami" was an actual animal.

Can be the brisket be BBQ'd?

xpost haha!

I think smoked meat is technically brisket, but it's obviously MILES AND MILES away from what I think of as brisket.

And wait- what would "some goyish bullshit" be if not corned beef?

turkey.

corned beef can go either way on the goyische spectrum.

hey alex bens is actually closed!

everyone hated the food there--it was all about the ambience.

and the milkshaeks.

WANT ALL

What was the place across the street from Schwartz? Was it Millers? It started with an M, I think.

THE MAIN

(not as good, but open later, iirc)

And no LINES!

Absolutely true.

God I loved food in Montreal. I still salivate thinking about Au Pied de Cochon.

Corned Beef is very Jewish. The american goys only started eating it for St. Patricks day because they couldn't find their traditional irish bacon at the jewish deli.

I have bored many a friend/girlfriend with mtl food memories, esp steak frites and whatever the potage was at Entrecote St Jean, poutine obvs, schwartz's, and breakfasts at place milton. xpost

Erm, no.

The irish corned beef tradition goes back way further than the new world. It's a traditional cristmas dish, often heavily spiced as well as salted to distiguish it from everyday salt beef.

I suspected as much, but didn't have the facts to back it up. Ed to the rescue!

the main definitely has its charms. for late night smoked meat, poutine, pickles, varenekes, cherry coke, weird latkes, can not be beat.

and they occasionally produce a brilliatn smoked meat sandwich but their best efforts fall short of schwartz's and the sandwich is often a little too dry for my tastes.

still... an institution.

mmm au pied

the most goyish restaurant ever

I've got a good recipe for the spiced version which I have been meaning to try for ages now. Perhaps once it gets cold again (hahaha again) I shall make some up.

no doubt
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Katzs_deli_corned_beef.jpg/800px-Katzs_deli_corned_beef.jpg

i would have heart attacks with all this sandwiches

yum extra pickles plz

irish corned beef tends to be warm + cabbage = ew

omg i want that katzs so bad now

Seriously. I think I'm going over the Cheviot Hills for lunch. Some great LA Jewish delis over there.

corned beef if it's on a reuben, otherwise hot pastrami

well, I've read that many places. Here are some mentions...

http://www.kitchenproject.com/history/CornedBeef.htm

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/333381

Best LA deli I've been to was in Northridge in a strip mall. Brent's it's called I think. Quite good.

yah brents is amazing.

I would say pastrami, but every bit of deli pastrami I get these days is MEGA fatty, so that -- heated up -- it oil-soaks a sandwich a little more than I care for. Corned beef, not as much.

Arf, the bagel sandwich up there is reminding me of a place by my old office in Queens with the single best smoked-whitefish-on-bagel I've ever encountered, nom nom nom.

I'm confused about the brisket thing - brisket is just a cut of meat. It can be used to make other kinds of deli meat and is often used for corned beef. When I think of Jewish brisket I usually think of an oven-roast, not a deli meat. And BBQ and smoked brisket are Southern things, obv.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Is Carnegie Deli good anymore? Used to be.

sucks

like really fucking bad

I last ate there in '93. Terrible atmosphere, way too expensive, bu

t the meat was great.

meat was old and nasty, soup was flavorless (and yeah, overpriced)

Yeah, wanko, carnegie used to be decent but (mid-90s?) changed hands, I think, and is now god-awful.

Hurting: yeah, brisket to me is the dry, cooked-all-day, under-seasoned stuff we get at passover.

"some goyish bullshit" (aka hardwood-smoked and sauced brisket, and don't you dare call it barbecue) is pretty damn good though.

I gots to build me a smokebox.

Damn, now that all the old LES deli places are becoming million dollar condos, where's a good place to get some good pastrami on rye in NYC?

and on the flip side, all the old jewish deli places in my home town in new jersey are now depressing mexican store fronts for MS-13

LANGERS NOW, LANGERS FOREVER!

for those not familiar with the type of brisket i'm talking about, here's a link to some brooklyn joint - anybody ever been there?
http://gothamist.com/2007/01/16/beauty_and_the.php

langer's is good

my cousin recomended Ben's on Queens Blvd but I haven't been yet. Maybe Dan has? Certainly won't be million dollar condos soon.

RIP Stage Deli

http://dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/30/stage-deli-closes-a-midtown-staple-since-1937/

(never went, only been to the Carnegie and Katz's among the legends)