what is the first fictional dinosaur?

1843 guess at what a pterosaur looked like:
http://www.strangescience.net/pics/pter.jpg

Beowulf ends with the hero battling a dragon.

Bleak House (1852)
by Charles Dickens
CHAPTER I

In Chancery

London. Michaelmas term lately over, and the Lord Chancellor sitting in Lincoln's Inn Hall. Implacable November weather. As much mud in the streets as if the waters had but newly retired from the face of the earth, and it would not be wonderful to meet a Megalosaurus, forty feet long or so, waddling like an elephantine lizard up Holborn Hill.

also ichthyosaurus, plesiosaurus = not technically dinosaurs

I've got a feeling Poe did a dinosaur but I can't remember what story.

"I've got a feeling Poe did a dinosaur"

some opium dream that.

oo JD that's good!

dragons and etc not counted for purposes of question (= how quick did dinosaurs as an idea get into fiction), tho good dinosaury-dragon pictures (and or vice versa) accepted cos i love em

re: not technically dinosaurs -- er ok, but you know what i mean

john martin (famous for pix of HELL):
http://www.copyrightexpired.com/earlyimage/jurassic_wog_1838_martin_1854.gif

i have the same feeling re poe -- is it in gordon arthur pym?

haha "the vomit is 160 million years old"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1810000/images/_1814559_dinopuke300.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Palace_dinosaurs

http://www.uky.edu/KGS/education/images/kid_dino.gif

wap!!

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.uky.edu/KGS/education/images/kid_dino.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.uky.edu/KGS/education/kidsdig.htm&h=269&w=348&sz=41&hl=en&start=13&um=1&tbnid=1GqIvDq8OVBcOM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=120&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfighting%2Bdinosaurs%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN

^^^
= meant to be this:
http://www.uky.edu/KGS/education/images/kid_steg.gif

http://www.hows.org.uk/inter/coll/b24/b24ac.jpg

I used to have this. Maybe it's still at my mom and dad's.

let me get this straight:

so dragons are a nicht, nicht but perhaps griffins (gryphons?) are ach ja?

the concept made clear:
some time in the 18th century scientists realised that all these stony old bones belonged to prehistoric animiles u cd tell scientific stories about -- i am interested in fiction which makes use of pop versions of these stories

http://www.thetvzone.net/friends/images/characters/rossgeller.jpg

http://www.strangescience.net/pics/pter.jpg

OMGZ I WANT ONE FOR PET

http://www.copyrightexpired.com/earlyimage/jurassic_penny_1833_unknown_na.gif
The Jurassic, artist unknown, Penny Magazine, 1833, England

http://www.copyrightexpired.com/earlyimage/jurassic_gidonh_1834_desainson_1887.gif
The Jurassic, Louis Auguste de Sainson (1801-1887), Gueirin's Natural History, 1834, Italy

Dinosaurs are nearly always kind of Hobbesian aren't they?

i like how the smiley bitey one went up from #10 to #1

http://www.utexas.edu/courses/larrymyth/images/cadmus/AA-Cadmus-Dragon-Woodcut.jpg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w7xBt-W3ZHQ

http://www.glue.umd.edu/~gdouglas/maryland/images/fig8.jpg

"peeps"?
http://srbissette.com/uploaded_images/PrePeeps3dinos-731395.jpg

the second-to-last picture is by charles knight, whose great paintings inspired the depiction of dinosaurs for almost a century if not more - they were the model for the dinosaurs in the original "lost world" and "king kong," and popped up in nearly every popular book about em - kids' books, encyclopedias, et al. there's a beautiful one of precambrian animals on the cover of stephen jay gould's "wonderful life."

This article is interesting and discloses the following information about the 1854-vintage Crystal Palace dinosaurs - mere yards from where I now sit and type:

The exhibit opened with much fanfare. On the first night a dinner was held for twenty-one distinguished scientific guests in the belly of one of the giant igauanodon statues. Invitations to this gala event were sent out on artificial pterodactyl wings. The scientists attending the dinner were so boisterous, due to the large amount of alcohol they consumed, that their singing could be heard across the entire park.

I intend to lobby the council to reopen the Iguanadon Belly Cafe forthwith.

More tediously this seems to be what you need: http://bp0.blogger.com/_m2Zts1VcijA/Rq6_4lIa8wI/AAAAAAAAAlw/xvPmIuE2C04/s1600-h/dinofant.jpg - which apart from some poems, apparently plumps for Verne.

I mean this http://bp0.blogger.com/_m2Zts1VcijA/Rq6_4lIa8wI/AAAAAAAAAlw/xvPmIuE2C04/s1600-h/dinofant.jpg

Gah http://prehistoricpulp.blogspot.com/2007/07/dinosaurs-in-fantastic-fiction-by-allen.html

http://media.monstersandcritics.com/articles/1161960/article_images/earlandbabysincclair.jpg

MMMMM CHILDHOOD

Aren't they all fictional? </Carl Everett>

a: clearly i am a monomaniac
b: i am still interested in the answer to this question (if jd's is not the answer viz: dickens and bleak house)

http://charlesdickenspage.com/dickens_and_the_dinosaur.html

Then I remembered the megalosaurus in Bleak House. So I called a friend of mine, Bob Walters, a well-known dinosaur illustrator and an expert on dinosaurs. He said the first image in literature of a dinosaur walking through a modern city was the megalosaurus in Bleak House. He thought it might be the first time a dinosaur is mentioned in literature, but Professor Michael Slater recently told me that a megalosaurus was mentioned in a short story in Dickens's journal, Household Words first.

Dickens's journal Household Words published an article by Henry Morley, which included a reference to a megalosaurus in August 16, 1851. The article was called, "Our Phantom Ship on an Antediluvian Cruise."

A group of travelers meet "...a land reptile, before which we take the liberty of running. His teeth look too decidedly carnivorous. A sort of crocodile, thirty feet long, with a big body, mounted on high thick legs, is not likely to be friendly with our legs and bodies. Megalosaurus is his name, and, doubtless greedy is his nature."

this is important and useful news

news in the best sense = finding something out happened 166 years ago

the fuckasaurus

the cycle of fp

you've made me a monster, ilx

^ potential haitch-bomb

Is Darth VAder a dinosaur?

No, he's a sandwich.

Of course an adherent of the "birds are dinosaurs" view might well say that the first fictional dinosaur is the same as the first fictional bird - possibly Aesop circa 500 BCE? But we know that's not what was meant.

Alley Oop coudl tell us