Two weird things happened today. I went to the Whitepages website, and a pop up came up, beginning with: "NOTICE: Your computer has tracks of all adult sites you had visited. In most cases, you are not even aware of the files that get installed by themselves" And then it went on to tell me how my career could be compromised and ask me to download "Drivecleaner", a programme for cleaning up web activity. I didn't download obv. I did delete all my cookies, emptied cache etc.
Later when trying to visit the legit site, macusersforum.com, I got redirectd to porn site. btw, could some kind ilxor check out this linik to see if they too get redirected (the homepage of site is pretty tame).
Have I got some kind of malware or virus. My Mac is very new, and I didn't think it was possible to be infected.. is it?
― Rib Dinner, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)
well, yes, it's theoretically possible ... but very unlikely. re: macusersforum ... are you sure you didn't mistype the address?
i'd check out the link if, er, you'd posted a link.
best way to get peace of mind is to download tiger cache cleaner, which is a) ace and b) the simplest way to install the clamAV anti-virus software.
― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)
Macs can get malware? I thought they trumpeted about how this never happened?
― Trayce, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 10:25 (eighteen years ago)
Sorry, here's the link. I had so very many problems on my PC, so it's possible I'm being a little paranoid! I will investigate the cache cleaner you mention, thanks.
http://www.macusersforum.com
I have just turned my OS X firewall on in System Prefs. oh dear..Presumably, that's something I should have done before ever going on the net (2 months ago), but I only found out about it today.
― Rib Dinner, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 10:30 (eighteen years ago)
xpost to trayce
well, at some point someone is going to write a piece of malware for the mac. stands to reason, doesn't it? if you went around going: "hey, nobody ever kicks me in the balls! i've never been kicked in the balls in my life!" then eventually someone's gonna hoof you in the knackers.
it's not that macs are super-secure. it's simply that it hasn't happened yet.
i've never in my entire life come across a piece of mac malware. but that doesn't mean it's never going to happen. for all i know, a terrifying new example was written last week and has found its way onto rib dinner's HD.
dull-ish macnewsworld story.
― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 10:31 (eighteen years ago)
Hold it, this is odd. Just tried the link I posted myself - it went through to the real site. But, when again I try to go into the site from a google search, I get the redirected porn. Could someone google the site to put my mind at rest?
― Rib Dinner, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 10:32 (eighteen years ago)
and a link to tiger cache cleaner. which is good for all sorts of other stuff, too.
that link works fine for me (ie no pr0n) ... i tried a few common mis-types and didn't get any either.
i wouldn't worry unduly. like i say, though: the only way you're going to get proper peace of mind is to run some kind of test, and i reckon TCC is by far and away the best. YMMV; other mac-types round here might have different recommendations.
xpost: okay, will do.
― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 10:35 (eighteen years ago)
aye, it's the link from google that's the problem. first time i tried, it connect me to bit-something dot com and tried to scare me about malware ("download our cleaner now!")
second time, it took me to kjski dot org, which seems to be a porn, pills an' gambling search engine :)
hope this puts your mind at rest. that said, i can't recommend TCC enough anyway, so check it out if you want. or not.
but i'd stake my reputation (ha) on there being nothing wrong with your mac.
― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 10:41 (eighteen years ago)
That's a relief. Thanks very much for googling, and for subjecting yourself to those same sleazy redirections. I will definitely consider getting TCC.
― Rib Dinner, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)
I am really loving my Mac. Those pop-up's weren't my problem, it seems, and you were right grimly fiendish - no malware seems to have been installed.
Is it true that a Mac user is always prompted for their administrator password before proceeding with any installation, legit or malware, as a security measure built into Mac OS X? If this is the case, I couldn't have possibly installed any malware unintentionally, but those pop ups were a worry!
― Rib Dinner, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 17:53 (eighteen years ago)
hello again. yep, that's how it works in the majority of cases ... not all, though. depends if it's a system-level installation or just you copying a file into yr applications directory.
causes no end of hilarity when people forget the password they didn't need to use for six months :/
― grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 18:27 (eighteen years ago)
glad you're enjoying the machine, anyway.
― grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 18:28 (eighteen years ago)
It's a v.good idea to create a separate admin account from the one you use on a day-to-day basis. You can still install software, but it will ask for your admin password at that point. Then you're properly safe from malicious installs. It does mean you have to type this password when you repair permissions too, but that's not much of a price to pay.
― Alba, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 20:33 (eighteen years ago)
Repair permissions as a routine maintenance step = voodoo
― caek, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 20:36 (eighteen years ago)
Well yes, possibly, but it has its uses from time to time.
― Alba, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 20:38 (eighteen years ago)
iphone trojan in the wild
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 19:42 (eighteen years ago)
i find that if you print A LOT permissions will need periodic repair. printer drivers are always getting bad permissions.
― elan, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 20:34 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.macjournals.com/news/2008/01/09#a90
What's "useless" is to repair permissions as if it were some form of necessary system maintenance. It's not, or Apple would have set up the daily, weekly, or monthly automatic launchd tasks to do it for you. In fact, Panther and Tiger both had to add extra code to undo the damage caused by people repairing permissions frequently for no reason at all. Nothing in the Mac OS X rules required that installer receipts have the correct and final permissions for all files installed—a post-installation script could have, and sometimes did, set permissions depending on the configuration of your system. But if you "repair permissions" every day (or hourly) "just to be safe," you undo that work and leave permissions incorrect. Apple had to add mechanisms in the Installer and Disk Utility to work around this unanticipated problem.
― caek, Thursday, 10 January 2008 02:58 (eighteen years ago)
hahahahahaha
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 10 January 2008 02:59 (eighteen years ago)
'repairing permissions'? What, from people doing chmod 777 on system stuff?
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 10 January 2008 03:46 (eighteen years ago)
lololol mac users, esp of the pre osx, are so fucking full of bs voodoo. I guess years of "rebuilding the desktop" do this. never read the comments on tuaw.com, tom
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 10 January 2008 04:27 (eighteen years ago)
I never read anything devoted to apple
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 10 January 2008 04:30 (eighteen years ago)
even "rebuilding the desktop" was never supposed to be something you did as a preventative measure or whatever
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 10 January 2008 04:31 (eighteen years ago)
Well, no but it was still a voodoo fix:
http://www.essentialmac.com/fix/rebuild.html
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 10 January 2008 04:34 (eighteen years ago)
Actually this page contradicts you: http://www.essentialmac.com/fix/maintenance.html
Rebuild your desktop (monthly)
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 10 January 2008 04:35 (eighteen years ago)
http://daringfireball.net/2006/04/repair_permissions_voodoo
Arguing that you (a) run Repair Permissions all the time and (b) have no permission problems, and then drawing the conclusion that there’s a cause-and-effect relationship there, is like arguing that your diligent avoidance of sidewalk cracks has a causal relationship to the fact that your mother’s back is doing just fine. Troubleshooting computers is science, not magic.
― caek, Thursday, 10 January 2008 12:09 (eighteen years ago)
The worst mac users are people like K-8 librarians who had to support front line crappy old macs for years against the mongol hordes of bright kids getting around internet filters, etc.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 10 January 2008 13:24 (eighteen years ago)