All The Guys I Like Are Breeders

Because you're attracted to guys, and most of them are straight. It's a numbers thing.

Casuistry OTM.

ya.

no! that is not the reason!!

we all kno u wanna think it's this whole big i love em cuz they're butch thing but really baby you just luv em cuz they're there

Well maybe someday you'll meet a gay guy you're attracted to.

they're an acquired taste.

No, really it's just a numbers game.

Fwiw, I say nip such crushes in the bud. The long hopeless slow burn for a nice understanding straight guy = dud. Don't get all "Chuck n Buck" about it, just move along.

OH MY G

Chuck n Buck is fucking depressing. and it made me depressed to look back on the DUD of a fucking time i had pining over a straight guy with a good baritone. hey i'm a sucker for voices.

I say nip such crushes in the bud

At first I read this as "nip crushes AT the bud", but now I understand what you're really saying. I do try to do this occasionally but they usually just slap me.

I was going to start this thread, actually.

hah

well the bottom fucking line is waste of time and emotional space. in a bad way. not like fun summer fling waste. stupid waste. unless of course u find the right guy.

It's because you like guys - not guys who act like girls. Some guys like effeminate guys, and that's awesome, but it almost seems strangely non-gay to me. If possible, spend time in gay sports bars, or with bear types.

i see what you did there

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hi dere

If possible, spend time in gay sports bars, or with bear types.

If possible, don't take this advice.

Consider masculine women??

rockapads otmfm

xpost nath and why th'hell not?

Life would be so much easier if I were a gay man. I could have the hottsex all the time.

Cause I don't fancy hairy types. When he says "bear types" it conjures up a pale guy totally covered in hair. EWIE! But hey, if that's what you like! :-)

Do people really use the term "breeders"?

xxpost, you apparently have not been reading up on your GayLX threads!!

xpost no, i was just playing off of the "All The Girls I Like Are Lesbians" post. I've only heard it a few times.

erm that's only "xpost" and then scratch the second "xpost"

Given hair removal trends, "bear" increasingly connotes a guy who just leaves what he has ON.

precisely :-/ which, i must say, after witnessing too, too too much shriekworthy chest stubble, is much better than nothing

also, Drew OTM ... and I have yet to see a SINCERE gay sports bar.

Stevie are you able to tell if someone is straight or not?

Of course. If I find someone attractive or hot, it means they're straight.

Because you're attracted to guys, and most of them are straight. It's a numbers thing.

Goodness, I've never heard it put so well, so succinctly. This, btw, happens to me, like, EVERY WEEKEND. Most of my friends are straight males.

Go to arty spaces/bars (when you're old enough) that incidentally rather than exclusively attract gays.

Not that this has worked especially well for me.

So what about gay clubs?

besides the terrible music?

Point taken.

The fact that the only guys who show up to gay clubs are sassy twinks with excellent fashion sense and fabulous dance moves.

neither of which I A) have or B) am interested in

Point taken again.

I used to go to gay clubs to pull (girls). Sorry for being part of the problem :(

All The Guys I Like Are In The Breeders

Mark C - I used to take my girlfriend to gay clubs so we could actually have a good time. I still take my wife to gay clubs so that we can actually have a good time.

Sorry about hitting on yr wife dude

The fact that the only guys who show up to gay clubs are sassy twinks with excellent fashion sense and fabulous dance moves.

This is, by the way, not true. But they do tend to favor those people.

I used to go to gay clubs to pull (girls). Sorry for being part of the problem :(

-- Mark C, Tuesday, September 4, 2007 5:11 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i should try this

cmon rw, if ILX is any indicator the gays wouldn't leave you alone.

I thought this thread was going to be the lamentations of a woman who didn't want kids.

Miami's kind of bear love:

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I thought this thread was going to be the lamentations of a woman who didn't want kids.

rofflez

I thought this thread was going to be the lamentations of a woman who didn't want kids.

Ha, me too.

I'm not going to call Stevie's taste in men into question, because I felt the similarly hopeless for quite a long time.

But by the same token, I feel like I was attracted to [straight / bi / questioning] guys for the very fact that they were emotionally unavailable, that it was easier to carry a torch for unavailable guys than it was to take emotional responsibility and break through a self-defeating mindset that I was not worthy of having anyone interested in me.

otm.

I recognize that pattern, but sometimes it's just that [let's call em] "non-scene" gays don't fly in flocks, and are thus harder to locate. So one winds up just hanging out with men who are nearby, which as Cas points out will mostly be hets.

"The Great Gay Pumpkin always picks the most sincere gay sports bar to rise out of. He's just gotta pick this gay sports bar. He's just gotta! Look around. You can see that there's not a sign of hypocrisy anywhere. Nothing but sincerity reaching out as far as the eye can see."

xpost

Because yeah, crushing on straight guys is easier because at least you have the certainty of failure. If you dated a gay guy, there's that menacing uncertainty that they might like you back, and -- not to get all group-therapy here -- if you don't like yourself, then that can be scary. Low self-esteem is a killer.

FWIW, I have just recently started dating a guy who is actually gay (although he identifies as 'queer', whatever) after years of dating bi guys, so I'm working through these issues right now -- but I don't mean to project on to Stevie if this isn't his deal, too.

On the whole, I think Casuistry got closest to the mark right off.

Because yeah, crushing on straight guys is easier because at least you have the certainty of failure. If you dated a gay guy, there's that menacing uncertainty that they might like you back, and -- not to get all group-therapy here -- if you don't like yourself, then that can be scary. Low self-esteem is a killer

True to an extent. W also flatter ourselves into thinking that these straight boys show signs of gayness thanks to us, like the woman who convinces herself that she'll stabilize her pussyhound husband.

The fella I've been dating non-seriously for almost two years is all kinds of pushy, can't tell jokes, and hangs out at gay clubs all the time, even though he gets along with my pals and they adore him. Since I've never had a satisfactory relationship, I worry that I might dislike gayness generally instead of his sniveling passive-aggression, which is certainly a less grievous fault than others you care to name.

to elmo: I've thought about this to great length, and I don't think it's for emotional reasons. I just find that the personality/physical type that I find attractive happens to be possessed mostly by straight men (not to say that I attracted to "most straight men", but that most of the men I'm attracted to are straight). It's basically, someone I can look at for five seconds and think "OK, total gay"--I'm not really into that. Which presents, then, the ironic problem of not being able to identify guys I like that ARE in fact gay. I'm sure there's much more of them than I realize, but how do I find them? Where do I meet them? If I'm not the type to go to gay clubs or similar things--and not "into" other people that would also--where does that leave me?

you should date my friend arthur

http://pbskids.org/arthur/friends/images/rollovers/arthur_home.gif

So fucking gay. Write THAT Arthur Chapterbook, Marc Brown.

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i don't know that i've ever had a really doting crush on a straight guy, mostly because the sense that, on the most pragmatic level, it can't possibly work, hits me before anything else

i don't really belong in this thread but i will interject that i have terrible brain damage. it took that sense away.