How is the rebel flag not a racist symbol?

So basically everyone who flies or supports the Rebel Flag is a racist. i.e. evil.

everyone except retarded people who don't know any better.

no poll no credibility

more intriguing question: did the confederacy have the right to secede from the union (as the colonies had "seceded" from britain) even if it was obviously in order to keep and extend slavery?

I don't think that mattered too terribly much.

hey guys it's 2007, just thought you should know.

Confederate Heroes Day - Dud or "JESUS! Why not just celebrate Usama Bin Laden day?"

I just like to point out the obvious because sometimes people can't even see that :/

Or they go into some 'politiking' to escape the fact.
'no poll no credibility'

http://imagehost.epier.com/99086/git_r_done_flag.jpg

THE SOUTH WILL RISE NEVER

without reading any of that.. supporting the confederate heros who died is another symbol of the flag. It doesn't stop slavery and its implications as also being a symbol.

so yeah, millions of people fly a flag that basically symbolizes 'I hate blacks' (among other things).

Is there a particular response you're trying to provoke?

Or they go into some 'politiking' to escape the fact.
'no poll no credibility'

wtf?

quit trying to escape the controversy

lol

shouldn't this be crossposted to idiot thread repository?

I guess my point is the same as it was in my political debate topic.
Why are so many people idiots??????????????????????? Why do people turn the blind-eye? Why does it keep going on? How can people be so idiotic (seriously)? If we can't figure a way to educate the people better than we are doomed! I'm thinking along the lines of America getting bombed actually. The reckoning has already passed and millions of people missed it. Heck, we havent done a single thing as a whole country to prevent global warming. The only thing we have done is talked about.

Tons of you already accept that fact that we are doomed.

The idiocracy is that a few people can save us. Can educate us. Can at least tell the message to others. That's all I'm doing. I'm telling the cold hard truth without being Jehova's witness.

are you from the south? (serious question)

Curtis, I know you were joking

Yes, it's racist. Next question.

and yes I am from the Dirty South.

Give up the guilt trip, Lorax.

BAN WAGEMANN

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That's not Wagemann. That's a negro. I can tell the diff.

my SHOCKING ANSWER (possibly not true and certainly not universal) is that people are stubborn & don't like to be called racist, so when they're raised in a culture that associates the rebel flag with regional honor, they take offense when people accuse them of being racists and turn a blind eye to the flag's actual racist implications, because to admit to them = admitting that you're a racist

just ban all n00bs, pls.

(if you've flown the flag)

xpost

"regional honor" are you kidding me?

you know what I mean

i know that that's the dumbest thing i've read on an already dumb thread.

I'm not defending it, I'm just saying that most people who do this ARE "retarded people who don't know any better."

never mind

http://www.rickrossvideo.com/rickross.gif

retards know no honor.

retarded was his word not mine

complacency is the last thing america needs. Spreading reason is the least you can all do as intelligent people (i think ilxors are smart).

1)you could rely on others to change things for you and talk shit about life

2)you could do nothing and try not to care while hell pursues.

3)you can use your brain to inform the people

4)I only made this topic so that people could at least remember what surrounds us. I didn't mean to bother you.

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you don't have to defend the word retard to me.

esp. while jordan sargent's here.

mods, pls nuke ilx.

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hstencil which part of my post were you confused by? When I said "culture" I didn't mean American culture as a whole, you realize

stencil, from my vantage point here in the belly of the beast, Curtis is very otm.

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Cap'n BorAss, amirite?

aren't there more important things to worry about w/r/t to our country right now? taxpayer money being handed to contractors to do nothing in iraq, complete fraudulence of the justice dept. etc.

OTM and no nabisco? Heresy!

hey guys it's 2007, just thought you should know.

-- hstencil, Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:06 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

So basically everyone who flies or supports the Rebel Flag is a racist. i.e. evil.

-- CaptainLorax, Thursday, September 6, 2007 4:02 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

isn't this like saying BREAKING NEWS: PEOPLE WHO WEAR SWASTIKAS ARE PROBABLY PREJUDICE

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIhUJFbWsAA_4P7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIhUJFaW8AABicW.jpg

Wow, hero.

Is there not some kind of compromise flag that they can hang up there? Why not the SC state flag? Or something celebrating the heritage of the state - "Birthplace of Dizzy Gillespie!" or w/e?

The whole reason it's there is because it used to fly on top of the dome and they moved it off the dome to its own special pole, and they passed some weird regulations to prevent it from coming down easily. Really, the best option is to just take the pole down, but you probably don't want to get caught with explosives on gov't property.

Thanks JF

lol weird she's from my hometown, i saw her play dorothy in the wiz like 15 years ago cause my brother was in the pit band

Turns out one of my friends in Charlotte works with the photog who took the iconic pic.

https://38.media.tumblr.com/93f1592dd566723da6309310155a77cc/tumblr_nqm2cyADzU1qlsrn9o6_500.gif

For just a moment, I thought the two black officers on the scene were giving each other a solidarity fist bump. They were only passing the key, though.

http://gawker.com/racist-idiots-hold-pro-confederate-flag-rallies-across-1714438078

God hates flags

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIhA6nNWUAAwGl7.jpg

thought this was Christopher Guest for a moment

Adding a cartoon of a green largemouth bass to the flag seems like an interesting way to people halfway

I know that people have trouble hearing the lyrics to Dylan's 'Subterranean Homesick Blues', but come on...

Lol

Any Bree Newsome updates?

Michael Moore offered to pay the entirety of her legal bills, so that's something.

Yankees shot great grandpa for a damn good reason. We should all be grateful the confederacy died along with him.

One of the stupidest things about this for me is that NOTHING is preventing any of these butthurt people from displaying their beloved flag on their own damn property or car or clothing. Aside from maybe the increasing public perception of them as assholes.

They just can't buy them anywhere anymore.

That's a shame

Just now Googled it---looks like the places (mostly Mom & Pop?) still selling are doing right well.

Bet Alex Jones, Rush, at least one of those guys, will start giving 'em away.

Or, you know, special discount, get it while you can, brothers & sisters.

Can't believe no one posted "when its a writing desk" in 8 years.

They should keep selling them as long as they look like this.

http://i.imgur.com/wmPYW1q.jpg

It'd be like a Klansman showing up at a rally with a frilly embroidered pillowcase upon his head.

Big Mouth Billy Bass Will Rise Again!

I was going to joke about letting them appropriate the Rebel Alliance insignia but then I image searched and SURE ENOUGH, it seems a number of confederate flag defenders (with varying degrees of graphic design accomplishment) gone & done precisely that :/

I'm disappointed that a church shooting happened and the political debate turned into an argument over pulling down a flag. I see the SC Confederate flag as a good thing -- it reminds non-racists to stay out of SC.

I see the SC Confederate flag as a good thing -- it reminds non-racists to stay out of SC.

what?

what?

you should read that as a wannabe Oscar Wilde paradox that epic failed

(xp) so the best way to solve racial oppression is to move? to live somewhere else so you don't get racist cooties? to leave oppressed people who are stuck in SC to fend for themselves?

everybody shd move to one of those non-racist states/countries like oh hang on

"stuck" not entirely the right word to use there, sorry

South Carolina: where the streets are molasses

slow southern style

I was with you on the first sentence, not so much on the second.

I see the SC Confederate flag as a good thing -- it reminds non-racists to stay out of SC.

This is wrong. However, I fully support a variation of this belief, which is that while state governments should take down the Confederate flags, they should still be sold to private citizens, because they serve as a handy "Hi, I'm A Huge Asshole" badge.

dan, as a bostonian you should know that ain't funny: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Molasses_Flood

Still kind of a sticky subject, huh.

am: :-)

Always liked Brad Paisley's solution in "Camouflage:"

Well the stars and bars offend some folks and I guess I see why
Nowadays there's still a way to show your southern pride
The only thing as patriotic as the old red white and blue
Is green and gray and black and brown and tan all over too

I prefer racism to be announced rather than to be hidden. The flag can be pointed to whenever someone claims that the southern states' policies aren't based on racism.

i always laugh when i'm reminded of that molasses flood, then i think about how awful it would be to suffocate in molasses. :(

you might say the laughter sticks in my throat... like molasses.

i'll be here all day.

ask chaku

It'd be a sweet way to go.

I have to think that a wave of molasses moving fast enough to drown you must be terrifying but otoh lol

how many victims do you think thought "maybe I'll just get a cupful and then get out"

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=374_1435549300

Taken down in South Carolina.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/09/confederate-flag-south-carolina-approves-removal-of-contentious-symbol

Though there are certainly people who have a strong view of history but no idea how history might view them:

“I’m willing to move that flag at some point if it causes a twinge in the hearts of my friends,” Pitts said. “But I’ll ask for something in return.”

Liked this from an interview with writer Percival Everett: http://www.vqronline.org/interviews-articles/2015/07/construction-place-interview-percival-everett

I’ve read about the incident in the South Carolina statehouse in 1989, in which you, protesting the presence of the Confederate flag, walked out of the statehouse after you were asked to speak.

They asked me if I would address the legislature. I said “yes” but I knew that I wouldn’t, because I knew the flag was in there. So I simply stood up and said, “Because of the symbol of exclusion, I can’t talk to you.” And I sat down.

Did that moment influence your short story about appropriating the Confederate flag, “The Appropriation of Cultures”?

It’s about symbols, in general. The story is pretty obvious so I won’t mention the story. I will say that I have since changed my mind about the flag. I think it ought to fly over the statehouse. In the same way that if I come to a field and it’s full of land mines, I appreciate a sign that says land mines.