A minute's round of applause

OK, 35 minutes silence then!

I personally would rather have applause if I was being remembered. No reason for everyone to be debbie downers!

I think Celtic adopted this as a way of drowning out the boo boys in the away end.

when cricketing giant Fred Trueman dies last year he was granted a minute's silence and a minute's applause.

Simultaneously?

One minute's one hand clapping for Fred!

Think this is a European thing, but United did it for Best and Chelsea for Osgood.

I don't like it.

I often fantasise that if I was a ref, I wouldn't blow the whistle at the end of the minute's silence and see how long it takes anybody to say anything.

A minute's silence has the advantage of being consistent -- the most anyone has to do is show some basic respect. Whereas it would kind of suck to see your dead loved one get a minute-long golf clap.

Hmm, this is very true.

the most anyone has to do is show some basic respect.

Easier said than done for some people. As I said, at least the clapping drowns them out.

A minute's round of awkward humming.

A minute's silence has the advantage of being consistent -- the most anyone has to do is show some basic respect

The most anyone had to do was show some basic respect and yet some people weren't able to manage even that - that's why we have the minute applause

Everyone should just pour some beer out on the ground.

A minute's round of belching the alphabet.

A minute's round of amateur tapdancing.

A you were adorable...

I can't help it if British people lack the fake social cohesion that allows Americans to occasionally shut up for 60 seconds.

Do you sing a British national anthem or something before sporting events?

Depends on the event.

Booing the oppositions National Anthem is another popular pastime in the UK.

See, lack of respect. Hoodlums.

Indeed.

Do you sing a British national anthem or something before sporting events?

Up the 'RA!

Don't really see what's wrong with a minute's applause especially eg at a football ground after the death of a club hero.

Minute's applause for a murdered child = a bit icky I think.

when cricketing giant Fred Trueman dies last year he was granted a minute's silence and a minute's applause.

Simultaneously

One hand clapping obv.

I hate moment-of-silences. The ADD kid in me just fidgets until it's over. I don't think about the sad thing we're supposed to be thinking about. Not one little bit.

Nobody likes to be told to be quiet!

Nath, we think alike, if at different times.

I thought basic idea of a one minute silence was to take time to reflect on the passing of an individual, a time for contemplation. The silence in itself isn't the goal, and I think that replacing it with clapping is sort of missing the point.

Clapping = celebration of their life and contributions. What's wrong with that?

Yes, people clap at funerals all the time

Celebrating = getting drunk and laughing uproariously. Clapping = meh.

(unless it's that Steve Reich piece)

One minute's Kool and the Gang then.

John Cage is so passe

Booing the oppositions National Anthem is another popular pastime in the UK

...bit of a problem if it's Liechtenstein's

Don't know why you guys are hating on applause so much.

...bit of a problem if it's Liechtenstein's

Are you sure about that?

Yeah I think applause is good if they died at a ripe old age of illness or something relatively 'natural'

Anyone murdered may be better honoured silently.

We were urged to clap at my grandfather's funeral, actually. I'm not saying this is a regular occurrance but if it's fitting, why not?

Perhaps Tony Wilson could've got a minute's round of abuse.

slow clapping that gets faster until finally breaking into "do you wanna be in my gang?"

I didn't know Jane Tomlinson had died :( I quite like the idea of the minute's applause. It seemed appropriate at Rhys Jones' funeral, with the family having asked everyone to wear bright colours. They obviously didn't want it to be a sombre occasion.

I always wear black to funerals. The person has gone into the dark unknown, and everyone is confused and shaken. Why not observe the gravity?

http://dallasmorningviews.beloblog.com/archives/debbie_downer.jpg

Yeah, well, death is kind of a downer, innit?

I myself don't like it.

It doesn't have to be. I'd rather try to celebrate the person's place in our life rather than mourn their absence.

I disagree with "it doesn't have to be."

column a, column b

Been besieged by deaths recently. Two classmates of my kids within a couple of months. Car crash, overdose. Neither seemed like an occasion to celebrate, though of course it's a part of it. But grief is so much huger and shouldn't be denied.

And of course that's not what you're saying, Ms M. I know that.

I'm just basing this with what I've witnessed at relatives recent funerals and my family's grief. I hope I will be sent off on a more positive note and maybe give my family something to hold onto besides the inevitable sadness. At least this is what I will ask for. As well as some beer poured on the ground.

"The dark unknown" is apt, I think. No matter what modern considerations, that journey is a mystery and part of our mythic curiosity, ritual, etc since we learned to wonder. There's something there that I suspect it behooves us to honor. And pour a 40 out for, of course -- libations totally OTM!

Not too many positives come out of dying

For you or your relatives? The latter, I would agree although it's a fact of life and futile not to accept it. The former, how do we know?

Are you allowed to pour alcohol-free beer on the ground?

Best place for it, I'd've thought

Ha!

A minute's silence for contemplation doesn't have to be gloomy and depressing. You can think about happy memories of the person. I think it's more respectful because it allows for each individual to remember the deceased in their own way, without intruding on others. Applause seems like some contrived, forced-happy, office birthday party bullshit.

If someone wants to be sad, let them be sad.

Thread killed with reason.

I'm donning my black weeds for the death of this thread.

I WANT PEOPLE TO MOURN MY ASS.

I am not kidding. If I die on my ILX tenure, please have a solemn and respectful thread. Be sad! Grieve! Don't go get nachos because "it's what Abbott would have wanted,=." I would have wanted that, yeah, if I was ALIVE.

I clapped in a class today when the teacher told us we we were great. The lid flew off the pen in my hand and hit me hard in the eye. Yeah, about 100 people saw this. I rule.

n/a OTM

Definitely don't infect me with the clap when I die. Or before.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7857829.stm

A newspaper has paid "substantial" damages to a student after it alleged she had called Rhys Jones's killer a hero during a TV interview.

Kelly Marshall, 18, from Liverpool, launched a libel claim after the Daily Star also wrongly accused her of being a member of the Croxteth Crew gang.

Her solicitor said the money would go to the Rhys Jones Memorial Trust.

Mercer was jailed for life for shooting Rhys in August 2007 as the 11-year-old walked home from football practice.

The 18-year-old was sentenced on 16 December, and two days later, the Daily Star published a front page story claiming Miss Marshall was Mercer's girlfriend and she had hailed him a hero.

The paper, owned by Express Newspapers, also alleged she had declared a pledge of loyalty to the Croxteth Crew gang, of which Mercer was a leading member.

'Appalling murder'

Miss Marshall's solicitor, Helen Morris, told the High Court in London that the student had been "very distressed" by the article, which appeared in print and on the newspaper's website.

"The truth is, contrary to the article, the claimant did not make any public statement following the conviction of Sean Mercer," she said.

Rhys Jones was shot dead in the car park of a Liverpool pub

"The claimant does not regard Mercer as a hero and would certainly never have made such a claim or sought publicity for it, in the aftermath of his conviction for such an appalling murder.

"The claimant is not and has never been a member of the Croxteth crew or any other gang. She has also never been Sean Mercer's girlfriend."

The Express Newspapers' solicitor, Kate Wilson, said the company accepted the allegations were false and offered its "sincere apologies" to Miss Marshall.

It will also publish a summary of the court statement in the Daily Star.