No, not 'cos I have...just wondering whether you consider it a moral infraction, and of what severity...
― paulhw, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)
I have done that.
― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)
I'm of both minds, a bit.
1. Someone having paid for sex before our relationship is no more my business than whomever he dated before our relationship is. It's history. Or at least it better be.
2. It's a little..."meh", eh? Yeah, it's irrational, but I find it a little squicky.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)
He was in the army at the time. Of course it was one of many red flags I should have paid attention to.
― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)
The other being "he was in the army" presumably.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)
Watch it.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)
no, absolutely not
― bell_labs, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)
Hmm, I think it would depend on the circumstances. In general though, I would think this act shows a lack of regard for safety, women, and his own self-integrity. While I wouldn't find him "unclean" (assuming he did have a clear bill of health) I would be concerned that the poor personal qualities which led him to a hooker could seep into our relationship.
― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)
.. or out of it, right?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)
poor personal qualities which led him to a hooker Bingo.
― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)
As opposed to those stellar (and more parsimonious) qualities which led him to a slut?
― Michael White, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)
doesnt kenan's girlfriend post to ilx?
― and what, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)
At least a slut involves some sort of communication and attempt to connect with another human beyond exchanging cash. Also real mean just learn to use their hand instead of using other people.
I might think differently if prostitution were legal and legit. But as it is most women are forced into it by addiction or other bad situations. Men who employ them are truly taking advantage of them.
― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)
Ethan, shut the fuck up.
Ethan, go be a fucking old lady somewhere else, god, you're like a bitter mother-in-law in perpetuity.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)
http://goddamn.lardpirates.com/archive/pictures/umad.gif
― and what, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)
And you're an asshole. At least after I eat my delicious lunch I'll be in a good mood again.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)
As opposed to those stellar (and more parsimonious) qualities which led him to a slut? You mean ME?
― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)
"Men who employ them are truly taking advantage of them."
I disagree, but this topic was bandied about ad nauseum on another thread. There's some advantage being taken by the prostitute as well in a lot of these situations.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)
Someone having paid for sex before our relationship is no more my business than whomever he dated before our relationship is. It's history. Or at least it better be.
seems a bit unrealistic to thing *everything that happened in someone's life* is somehow moot now you're in it?
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)
I used to live downstairs from a prostitute in Paris (where it is legal) who had a very regular clientele of mostly middle-aged men. The arrangement seemed more respectful and mutually beneficial than some sordid one-night stands.
You mean ME?
Of course not Beth. I would never refer to you as a slut without appending the words feral-haired!
― Michael White, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)
xpost
So you would rather pay a desperate, crack-addled woman for a blowjob rather than downloading some porn and taking care of yourself.
Yes Michael what you're describing is pretty different than what happens in the states.
― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)
ahh yes the undesperate non-crack-addled women of internet porn
― and what, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)
That's a different argument and while I don't deny that porn isn't a problematic industry I'd much rather date a man who watched porn than one who used illegal prostitutes.
― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)
I suppose there are degrees of 'doing this', i.e paying a fair bit fr sex w/ someone attractive, as opposed to cheap sex etc...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)
If only Paul Brickman had made a sequel to Risky Business in which Tom Cruise's character and chums all fail to be attracted to or indeed attract girls at college after it's revealed they all spent their trust funds on super attractive call girls the previous Summer.
― blueski, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)
Uh, well, unless there are issues borne out in everyday behavior, obv, everything that happened in someone's life before me IS moot. First of all, it's done and over and not undo-able, and second it's none of my business any more than criticizing (or being jealous of) MY choices is HIS business. I mean, you can disapprove if you want, but it won't gain you anything.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)
the desperate crack-addled women of the world thank you
xxp
― and what, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)
gah not dating men who watched pr0n would realllly narrow the dating pool, wouldn't it
― bell_labs, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)
xxxpost
What if they had murdered someone or had previously liked to visit Thailand for child sex? I mean I think I would at least like to know about this. Along with any other felony convictions.
bell labs OTM
― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)
I'd have thought it was more unattractive to be in a relationship w/ someone who'd slept around loads. as opposed to slept w/ a pro (we're talking once, I guess, right?)
But then, I'm not a w.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)
men who want to visit thailand for child sex should just download some child porn and take care of themselves at home
― and what, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)
What are the chances, do you think, that you're going to end up in a relationship, all unknowing, with a pedophile? I mean, really. Out of the overall population. It seems a little hysterical to make that some kind of standard.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)
it's kind of part of someone's character and shit? i dunno, i'm not saying you can pre-judge necessarily, but maybe decisions people have made will tell you things about them. or is that crazy?
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)
haha!
xxpost
― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)
Hi, the middle ground is calling, you're missing your coffee date right now.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)
Obv. it's an extreme example valid. People in relationships should be open with each other. If the other person is judgemental or unable to accept you past and all, they are not someone you should be in a relationship.
And there are lots of people out there who abuse and exploit others (sexually and otherwise). I think the chances of the average single adult encountering them is not unlikely. Or hysterical to think so.
― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)
"but valid" rather and "should not" duh.
It's a little nuts to think that, at the point of intimacy at which a person is likely to DIVULGE this info in the first place, you wouldn't have formed any stronger impression of yr partner's character and values than could be destroyed by one past indiscretion.
On the other hand, if the guy says over dinner on yr first date that he's partial to working girls and hopes you don't mind, then you're right, probably not a good bet.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)
I know you're always ready to call me nuts Laurel so we should just agree to disagree on this matter.
― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)
-- Ms Misery, Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:57 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
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― and what, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)
I rather like the idea of a prostitute in theory, but a combination of squeamishness and sentimentality precludes me from ever going there. I'm the kind of guy who would end up just talking for my allotted time, making us both feel even worse about the whole thing.
Ms Misery, in most major cities, even in the States, there are expensive 'escorts' or what have you who are not all crack-addled.
― Michael White, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)
I think the fact that I'm 51 yrs old and the only woman thus far who has copped to consorting with a protitute-user is not just coincidental. We got together in 1981, before anything was known about AIDS. There was a lot of sexual-outlaw behavior going on. Since then people have learned the hard way to be more cautious.
― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)
OK ladies: a) for 1-10 times slept with a prostitute in a place where it is legal (Amsterdam, Vegas) vs. b) for 1-10 times slept with someone who worked for him (let's say he's a manager) vs. c) for 1-10 times slept with his close friend's girlfriend/wife
― Eazy, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)
I think my feeling is coming from the fac that some people I love have very checkered pasts, and their partners know about that and have accepted/married/loved them anyway. I would be v angry with someone who couldn't see that the past was past and wd be willing to throw away yr possib future together.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)
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Beth, I think it's a better guess that you're the only who knows for sure. Of all my exes I can only think of one who might have done this but he had so many other bad qualities this one would just get lost in the wash
― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)
That looks like some weird SAT word problem upthread.
― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)
I'm the kind of guy who would end up just talking for my allotted time, making us both feel even worse about the whole thing.
i've heard that this happens quite often though, with prostitutes and with strippers, that some men actually do just want to talk! esp if they are older
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)
it happens a lot in coming-of-age films.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)
lost in the wash Which circles back to gray water.
― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)
where is Beth Parker now? Only she could possibly help me.
― emilys., Wednesday, 12 September 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)
I'm here! I brought my barbeque tongs and I'll have those balls out in no time!
― Beth Parker, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)
Words, Beth, I hope never to hear or read again.
― Michael White, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)
OUT! thanks to, and I'm not kidding, some crazy oil from thailand left behind by a former resident of the house.
― emilys., Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)
uh/
― dell, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)
Ker-Bangers, jacksy, never....
― suzy, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)
Emily, should that ever happen again, a very nice lady at a sex toy party I attended this weekend (bachelorette party I had no choice) said the key to getting those out is just to squat.
― ENBB, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)
mental notes from ilx edu:
make sure buttplug has flared base
only use ben-wa balls if crazy oil from thailand is onhand (or one is able to squat comfortably)
― dell, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)
I'm sure some frying oil in a turkey baster would do as well. Inject, stand on head to really get it in there, and then squat.
― Beth Parker, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)
i have no idea what this thread is about anymore.
― blueski, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)
too bad rumpie left 'balls' off her british bbq poll
― blueski, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)
I'm curious as to what exactly makes Thai oil 'crazy'?
― Michael White, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)
The thread has mutated from philosophical to useful. You never know when you or a loved one will get a foriegn object stuck in her giney. Which is sort of like being in a relationship with a ho-client.
― Beth Parker, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)
foreign. God.
― Beth Parker, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)
xxxxpost
Yeah, sorry. I started posting about my Rachael Ray sexual fantasies, and then the whole thread imploded into some Food Network meets hardcore porn thing.
― dell, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)
I was in a green card marriage when I was 20. Talkin' foreign objects up there.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Balls.jpg/469px-Balls.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/sevenxviii/parenthesis7.gif
― Curt1s is coming to Zwinktopia !, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)
'Tongs, Ben-Wa balls, crazy oil' also sounds like the title of the memoirs of a sex tourist.
― Michael White, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)
nice one, BP
― dell, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)
I want to know where they got to. There's only a limited amount of space in there, right?
― Mark C, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.barbados.gov.bb/images/HarCave.jpg
― Mark C, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)
You gotta watch the childbirthing.
― Beth Parker, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)
So, are there a lot of OB/GYN's who also have training in dentistry?
HI-YO!!
― dell, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)
http://i9.tinypic.com/5ykgk9k.jpg
― StanM, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)
Look, asking the guard would entail describing how this entire company whores itself out to the sales department so in interests of everyone's sanity, how bout I just eat across the street.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)
-- blueski, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 14:46 (1 hour ago) Link
lol grocery groin
― and what, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)
-- Michael White, Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
umm, it was really oily oil?
― emilys., Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)
omg
― HI DERE, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)
lol "men: would you have sex with a woman who was once a protitutr"
― vadx, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)
HAHAHA this thread went from lame to awesome
― max, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)
alls it takes is someone to admit to sticking things in their vagina. Instant funzone.
― kenan, Thursday, 13 September 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)
Is that what you call it?
― Michael White, Thursday, 13 September 2007 22:13 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/011221.html
― kenan, Thursday, 13 September 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)
That is instant funkillzone. Come on, there were rapes and infants in that link ≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠ fun.
― Abbott, Thursday, 13 September 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)
Who gives a shit what these people think?
― Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 14 September 2007 00:18 (eighteen years ago)
The solution is to squat and bear down and push it out, just as if one were straining with a bowel movement. One can also use a finger or two to help direct the object out
― remy bean, Friday, 14 September 2007 00:26 (eighteen years ago)
looooooool Eyeball Kicks
― am0n, Friday, 14 September 2007 02:37 (eighteen years ago)
Results 1 - 100 of about 256,000 for "ben wa balls". (0.20 seconds) Results 1 - 100 of about 1,200 for "benoit balls". (0.12 seconds)
lol
― Kim, Friday, 14 September 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)
I had this dream last night that Nerds candy came out with a fruit-roll-up style candy scrotal sac, and that you could buy (separately) individual candy testicles to put in it.
― Abbott, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)
Ohhhhhhh....kayyyyyyyy....
― suzy, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)
You need to copyright that shit, Abbott.
― Laurel, Friday, 14 September 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)
Abbot's brain can't be copyrighted. Patented, maybe.
― libcrypt, Tuesday, 18 September 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)
Additional Question...
What if their dad had tried to procure said prostitute?
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 15 May 2009 16:19 (sixteen years ago)
Fucking hell all I got for my 14th was a lousy ZX81.
― Dom P's Rusty Nuts (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 May 2009 16:25 (sixteen years ago)
My father had a breakdown around mine - he was probably worrying about approaching prostitutes.
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 15 May 2009 16:29 (sixteen years ago)
If you see a prostitute approaching you can always cross the road.
― Skip "Ex" Spence (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 May 2009 16:30 (sixteen years ago)
I just cannot imagine taking your son out (even if he was 20 let mind 14!) to look for prostitutes. "How about that one, son?"
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 15 May 2009 16:32 (sixteen years ago)
I can't imagine repeatedly sexually assaulting your kids either but you know that stuff goes on :(
― Skip "Ex" Spence (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 May 2009 16:34 (sixteen years ago)
In this case his dad was probly trying to make sure he didn't grow up to be one of them gays or something.
― Skip "Ex" Spence (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 May 2009 16:35 (sixteen years ago)
I saw a father/son (who happened to have Down Syndrome)at a strip club once. I couldn't decide whether it was completely wrong and freaky or sort of sweet.
This thing with the hooker and the 14 yr old = definitely wrong and freaky.
― Noooo! Cats are not for eating!!! (ENBB), Friday, 15 May 2009 16:43 (sixteen years ago)