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http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSWeirdNews0107/19_bull-ap.html
I do not know how to imbed links sorry . But i would like comments. I think parts of it are ahunting and beutiful but it is mostly Nitsch like shockers.

― anthony, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeesh. Well, presumably it's his own money he's spending.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

absolutely beautiful, and perhaps a better end for all the f&m cows in the uk.

― Geoff, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, personally I think there is absolutely no merit in dropping a headless bull out of a helicopter...I severly hope the said artist made no money from it. Art that aims to shock is not shocking it just makes me yawn, and think whatever happened to asethics.

― james e l, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, personally I think there is absolutely no merit in dropping a headless bull out of a helicopter

Woah!! I wasn't going to bother to look, but HEADLESS BULLS BEING DROPPED OUT OF HELICOPTERS??!! Fucking A, man!

asethics

Ass ethics? I fear there are sorely lacking on this board.

― Nick, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

To extend Anthony's question- How can we distinguish between art and non-art? Has it become a purely subjective distinction or do definite, tangible parameters still apply? From the moment that Duchamp's "Fountain" was placed in a gallery, has this question become unaswerable?

― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is my question. As well as has shock stopped being eggective as a motivator. The industrial crucfixion, the dancers in the alcoves of broken buildings , both seemed to say what was needed. The bull was superflous, was it not ?

― anthony, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maybe its superfluity was the intention. Which is pretty dumbass if you're taking it to that level.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

there was a funny parody in the oninon about how a new painting of jesus was so controversial because it hadn't had feces smeared on it and he was not getting sodomized by satan rather it was just a run of the mill portrait. there were loads of quotes from important art critics saying how it could have been improved in order to become less disgusting.

― keith, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Violence to animals is cool, or at least funny.

― Sterling Clover, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

typos-as-art: "eggective"

― mark s, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

From the moment that Duchamp's "Fountain" was placed in a gallery, has this question become unaswerable?"

Looks like it. Instillation Art seems to be nothing more than [endless] variations on Marcel Duchamp's theme and the question 'Art:Y/N?' is repeated each time Sarah Lucas, Damien Hurst et al leave their pieces of old tut lying about on gallery floors.

But wasn't Duchamp merely taking the piss (pun half-intended)? He wanted to "destroy art"; to topple the tables and so forth. Instead a whole group of people looked at his worked and obviously thought 'that looks easy!' and ran with it. The result is the paucity of imagination on display in galleries today.

― D*A*V*I*D*M, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But perhaps difficult art is rubbish.

― mark s, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

People still worry about the art/not art question in aesthetics. I think they're wasting their fucking time.

― Josh, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sterling, please say that you're kidding or being sarcastic or something... I know the issues surrounding art vs. violence and the ethical treatment of animals are complicated, and that there are a lot of divergent opinions on the matter, but the callousness of your post is not appreciated.. by me... but feel free not to give a shit, if that is indeed the truth. Apologies to all if this disrupts the thread - just had to say.

― Kim, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So talk to me about it Kim.
Lets talk about HErman Nitsch or Animal Cruelty in Art.
Or how we judge art

― anthony, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Josh you swore!

― Mike Hanley, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yeah i'm w/ kim. fuck herman nitsch.

― duane, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

although the bull in this case is already dead - i woulda et it (maybe) - i dunno.

― duane, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thats part of the point of Nitsch, the fucking.
I know thats flip , but i think there is somethign to say about ritualzing our native bloodlust.

― anthony, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What's your fucking problem, Hanle y? You act like I'm the pinefox or something.

― Josh, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sorry, Kim, I don't go around torturing animals or such, but I got some sort of evil grin from the image of a cow getting dropped from on high. What else do you expect from a predatory modernist?

― Sterling Clover, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

nine years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN6nS0caqXA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I want to know what people think about this and reading it as performance art.

― CCH Peniston (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 3 December 2010 04:41 (fifteen years ago)

isn't that the poker face music video

― .\ /. (dayo), Friday, 3 December 2010 04:54 (fifteen years ago)

eight years pass...

https://hyperallergic.com/517780/living-forest-installation-rightwing-backlash/

Artnet reports that in addition to verbal attacks chastising the project, Littmann was accosted on the street and pushed into traffic by a vexed individual who shouted: “Go away and take your shitty forest!”

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:02 (six years ago)

one year passes...

NFT Art Gallery @startarthk official launch this Sunday in HK 🔥 pic.twitter.com/cBgiFFbxyh
— Zhu Su 🔺 (@zhusu) September 3, 2021

― xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 September 2021 09:54 (four years ago)

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