Project Runway 4: Finally! [Starts Nov. 14th]

Rami on the Tyra Show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nlMS5k455Q

Here's the background (cribbed from here)

CARMEN
AGE: 37
HOMETOWN: Charlotte, NC
EDUCATION: Architecture at Savannah College of Art & Design
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Tracy Reece, Epperson and Byron Lars
FASHION MUST: A fantastic shawl or scarf that can be worn in many different ways

CHRIS
AGE: 44
HOMETOWN: San Francisco, CA
EDUCATION: Self-taught
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Dior
FASHION MUST: Bright-colored anything

CHRISTIAN
AGE: 21
HOMETOWN: Annapolis, MD
EDUCATION: Baltimore School For The Arts and The American Intercontinental University, London
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: McQueen and Westwood
FASHION MUST: Amazing jacket or blazer

ELISA
AGE: 42
HOMETOWN: El Paso, TX
EDUCATION: Master of Fine Arts in Combined Media with an emphasis on sculpture, performance and installation from the University of Arizona, Tucson
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Erte, Jean Cocteau, Madame Gris, Zaldy, Norma Kamali
FASHION MUST: A great pair of boots

JACK
AGE: 38
HOMETOWN: Seattle, WA
EDUCATION: University of California at Berkeley with a double degree in Fine Arts and Sociology and Parsons School of design
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Diane Von Furstenberg, Alexander McQueen (For Men)
FASHION MUST: A sugar daddy

JILLIAN
AGE: 26
HOMETOWN: Long Island, NY
EDUCATION: Parsons School of Design
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Nicolas Ghesquiere for Balanciaga and Azzedine Alaia
FASHION MUST: A sweater dress (ideally with pockets hidden in the side seams) worn with opaque colored tights

KIT (CHRISTINA)
AGE: 26
HOMETOWN: Los Angeles, CA
EDUCATION: Fashion Institute of Technology, New York and Polimoda Institute of Fashion Design and Marketing, Italy
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Viktor & Rolf
FASHION MUST: Balenciaga fringed scarf

KEVIN
AGE: 30
HOMETOWN: Fairfield, NJ
EDUCATION: Fashion Institute of Technology, New York
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Alexander McQueen, Jean-Paul Gaultier
FASHION MUST: Cool vintage boots

MARION
AGE: 39
HOMETOWN: Tyler, TX
EDUCATION: Parsons School of Design, New York
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Viktor & Rolf and Hussein Chalayan
FASHION MUST: Thin stretch suspenders

RAMI
AGE: 31
HOMETOWN: Ramallah, Jerusalem
EDUCATION: Brooks College in California
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Alexander McQueen, Victor & Rolf, Olivier Theyskens
FASHION MUST: A hot pair of leather boots

RICKY
AGE: 35
HOMETOWN: Escondido, CA
EDUCATION: California State University, Long Beach
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Prada
FASHION MUST: Gloves

SIMONE
AGE: 32
HOMETOWN: San Francisco, CA
EDUCATION: Parsons School of Design, Paris
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Dries Van Noten
FASHION MUST: Organic wool and cashmere

STEVEN
AGE: 30
HOMETOWN: Chicago, IL
EDUCATION: Chicago's Columbia College
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Yves St. Laurent
FASHION MUST: A cardinal red trench coat

SWEET P (KATHLEEN)
AGE: 46
HOMETOWN: Los Angeles, CA
EDUCATION: Los Angeles Trade Technical College
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Prada, John Galliano, Marni, Chloe, Phillip Lim, Balenciaga
FASHION MUST: A dress

VICTORYA
AGE: 34
HOMETOWN: Seoul, Korea
EDUCATION: University of Chicago
FAVORITE DESIGNERS: Ghesquiere, Elbaz, Marc Jacobs
FASHION MUST: Patent leather ankle boots & colorful tights

people in their twenties really have no idea how to dress themselves

http://www.style.com/slideshows/fashionshows/F2007RTW/BALENCIA/RUNWAY/00060m.jpg

is a "Balenciaga fringed scarf" like that not a staple of your wardrobe, tomboto?

I'm not turning 30 until April dude, of course it is, along with my hot pink tights, gray sweater dress with hip pockets and flashy blazer. you know what else cool twentysomethings wear? emo hats.

those lego brand shoes you just posted are going to be pretty essential this winter

no massive grey line of makeup across your forehead no credibility.

Rami looks like he should be selling X to coeds.

I don't have anything interesting to add. I just want to say:

Yayayayayayayayyyyy Project Runway!

Season 4 Showcase:

http://video.bravotv.com/player/?id=180049#videoid=181881

I KNOW... THINGS...

YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAAY!!!!

lol wrong fashion reality show but some of the models in that video would not get past the catwalk episode on ANTM.

they probably tried.

http://www.bravotv.com/video_player/promotes/300x209/btv_timgunn_300x209.gif

oh yes, please!

...but that "showcase" was such a drag. the uk version beats this hands down but the presence of the lovely Tim makes it a close call.

are we picking who's going to get booted for the premiere yet? I'm guessing somebody old

Anyone who willingly names themselves "Sweet P" should be slowly pressed under a big rock.

what if she named herself "Lil P" instead

If she had a skateboard, she might be okay.

Wait what am I saying, STONINGS.

"bright colored anything!" sounds like a death sentence

FASHION MUST: A cardinal red trench coat

stfu

I am actually already hoping that lunatic makes it through at least half the season

"Chris, 44, self-taught" I mean

http://bp3.blogger.com/_2njq2Guqp4c/RvweWQ0cvCI/AAAAAAAALwE/uxz3SINB9VY/s400/pr3.jpg

^^^^ This person appears to be begging for punches.

http://bp0.blogger.com/_2njq2Guqp4c/RvweWg0cvEI/AAAAAAAALwU/RYk7ytrs0WQ/s400/pr5.jpg

FASHION MUST: A sugar daddy

stfu boring douche

On first sight I think I hate every single one of these people, guys.

yeah in selecting a series of almost-milfs and guys who would set off blips the size of skylab on the average gaydar I'm worried they might lose some of their crossover audience (e.g. me)

Anyone who willingly names themselves "Sweet P" should be slowly pressed under a big rock.

Fashion Must : A Dress

she wins in my book just for that.

Christian is so kattan in: http://www.geocities.com/azraelabyss.geo/gtbanner.jpg

Not a straight man in the group ... as it should be, I guess.

i like that little douche christian

lol I had approx 2.5 seconds of footage in EP 1

Wait, wasn't the dude with the artistic beard straight? I thought he said so when they were doing the mini interview.

I kind of like the sad dude who works in the flower shop. I think his name is Marion.

I am planning on not watching this

Rami sucks
most of these people appear to suck or just be boring
I already miss Vincent

Tom I'm sorry there aren't more straight guys on the show for you to identify with

Also that was a sucky haiku

I thought that was a good first episode myself but then again I'm always Cap'n Don't Give Up On A Show You Have Enjoyed In The Past After One Episode, so feel free to discount the fuck out of my opinion

I'm going to keep watching, the first episode hasn't really revealed a lot of the crazy yet. I just know that Rami is boring based on what he made and that Christian seems more like a Keith than a Santino or Jeffrey so far. We'll see what he can get up to.

Yeah I think that dress was fine but I'm skeptical about what else he can do. OMG BEST PART: "She looks like she's pooing fabric!" Man, I've missed Heidi Klum.

Rami I mean.

the first episode hasn't really revealed a lot of the crazy yet.

i thought the lady who almost got the boot and had the blue dragon lady spandex dress was cuckoo in the coconut.

oh yeah she's awesome for sure. I hope she manages to stick it out until the final four tbh and really bother the kids straight-up vince style. moon rockets: http://www.elisaj.com/

Even thinking about Christian irritates me :/

Kevin and Steven both seem decent, but kind of -- err -- creepy.

christian has a lisp that could cut glass

I kind of like the sad dude who works in the flower shop. I think his name is Marion.

I kinda like him too... He's the Bradley of this season.

Rami's dress was really unflattering and.. safe. Yet again in a challenege that calls for creativity the judges choose the safest most boring gown (see: Keith winning the first challenge last season...). I think Chris' eggplant-coloured gown was the best, it's BEAUTIFUL. Victorya's was cute, as was Jack's (he reminds me of Robert Best from last season, hopefully he doesn't disappoint like Robert did...). Elisa is ridiculous.. Wendy Pepper 3.0 I guess.

Overall a pretty great first episode, we got to see what they could do right off the bat... those models are so fug though, ugh. And majority of them can't walk to save their lives...

I've got mad love for Chris the "bright-colored anything" guy because he took the dumb dumb "RUN FOR THE FABRIC" thing in stride and made an awesome dress anyway and because he makes clothes out of salad. And Sad Marion is totally awesome, too, and I want to fix him a nice steak because he looks anemic.

I think Jillian (she of the blue culottes) is going to be the "I always make the same dress I'm wearing" designer of this season (like Laura and that bubble skirt woman from last season). I HATED Christian's plaid jacket thing. If I like woke up wearing it one morning, I would chew my own arm off to get out of it. I really liked Carmen's design this time around. Ashley Rami's model is jarringly ugly.

And maybe I'm just hanging out with more fat people these days and so have skewed perceptions, but did those models look even skinnier than normal? Some of them looked like their little legs were going to snap. It's jarring.

I really liked last night's episode, though I must say I was rather disappointed by the guest judge. SJP the "biggest guest judge ever"?? Really?!?

Anyway, Victorya deserved to win, although she seems very one-note already (everything she had made, including the 3 outfits from the seaosn 4 showcase, has had like the exact same silhouette)... Elisa/Sweet P was awesome as well, loved the cape, though I wasn't really feeling the color of the dress... Ricky/Jack was also really good.. but Ricky seriously needs to STOP CRYING. I just want to, like, bitch slap him and tell him to GET IT TOGETHER. Marion was dead weight, not surprised to see him go...

christian deserved to win.

Deserved to win a SMACK

he romped through the competition and had a good not great collection

i mean jillian's was good and rami had no shot bcuz his collection was way too rami

Whatever, Christian's collection was amazing.

I liked Jillian's and Christian's a lot, but Rami's just seemed very boring to me until they started showing the details. From far away, all I could see was the bad color choices and the boring robo-babe vibe.

I really liked Rami's (maybe because i like primary colors), but they always have to go with the more exciting, emerging designer. That happened on the Canadian PR version. Jillian's was ok, but there were no wow pieces and she is just a really really dull personality to try to market.

although, i think if she were my coworker I would talk shit about her for a year and then become best friends with her.

christian's line was monotonous. he used 2 colors, and all his feathers were heavy-handed and oddly fitted, and just too reminiscent of his evening gown masterpiece from a while back.

jillian's collection was exquisitely tailored. and i have to say i didn't mind rami's work at all, i thought it was quite nice, even though some of the pieces looked pretty amateur.

i definitely wanted christian to win, until i saw his line. it was just so DUH, from him. he could have done something a lot more engaging.

sucks that judges never choose the right person on these crappy shows!

I would like to punch Christian so hard that his hair becomes sensible.

dude,yes!!

wow I had a totally different take no this than anyone else I guess.

they always have to go with the more exciting, emerging designer

Santino lost, so this isn't true. I think they usually trend toward the safe, picking the person who will have the most commercial appeal. So for that reason, i was really surprised Christian won, because his work was so high fashion.

I really like Jillian's stuff but her collection didn't hang together as well as the others. Rami's collection was awesome, I don't get the complaints about his colour choices, I was shocked he didn't win. But Christian deserved it, he never did anything bad the entire season, and the kid is freaking 21 years old. He's maybe the first person ever on this show that seems like they have a real chance at being a big name designer and not 'head designer at banana republic for a year' or something (speaking of which, there was no sponsorship like that this year, was there? BR did at least one year and last year was Macy's...)

in fact,I think the sponsorship this year was by Tresemme, wasn't it? So maybe they all picked Christian because of his hair, and Rami was going to have no chance becuz BALD.

BlueFly

oh right. isn't bluefly an aftermarket discount online shop?

I think I would have liked Christian's collection more if:

a) Everything wasn't black and beige. Black and silver? Yes. Black and white? Yes. Black and any other fucking color besides beige? Yes.
b) Fewer ludicrous hats.
c) Everything was as visually arresting as that long feathered dress. Most everything else was, within that paradigm, completely anonymous; he went beyond "cohesive" and into "oh look I just made the same garment six times".
d) He had sent down just ONE piece that didn't have those stupid shoulderpad-looking poofs on them. Stop trying to make your models look like Anorexic He-Man, you douche.

one of them looked like a scarecrow

Anorexic He-Man Scarecrow (wasn't this an 80s SNL skit?)

ya. mostly agree with you here. you have to be a fucking amazing designer to use 2 colors. whatever colors. i didn't even like the long feathered dress tho. we get it, you can make a ruffled dress. WOW FUCK GET OVER IT.

some of those hats were gross. that one with like feathers stickin off it was awful.

and yea TOTALLY with you on (c). black outfits, skinny jeans WOW HOW INNOVATIVE.

haha my friends called it the scarecrow outfit too

although that neck piece thing was totally hot

Christian is kind of a Chris Kattan SNL skit come to life, isn't he?

haaaaaaaaaaaaaa

eww honestly i was so disappointed. and then you have Posh in the front row wearing that AWESOME PINK thing and all you're thinking is, why didn't ONE Of them get bold enough to try something like that? it was all too textbook and bla.

I love Christian. I wasn't too wowed by photos of his clothes, but when I saw them moving down the runway, I was. Jillian had a couple of really great pieces and Rami too. The competition was really close - I think in the end they probably did go with him because he'll make a better PR person for them. "Fierce" is practically a brand already. If you look at the total season, he deserved to win.

Christian IS fucking fierce.

ban fierce

Or punch it in the chicken neck.

They pretty clearly never go with the safe choice (season 2 is the exception, but that was a choice between three safe choices--mostly due to Santino losing his nerve it seems) so anyone who is surprised that Christian won hasn't watched past seasons very closely.

oh right. isn't bluefly an aftermarket discount online shop?

yeah something like that

I think that part of the prize ("chance to sell your line on bluefly.com") is to try to get some of these people to market faster, so it's not four years later and you're thinking "hey whatever happened to jay mccarroll"

or at least that's what this one new york magazine story said before the season, that Bravo was gonna try to work with the winners more after the show, otherwise it seems like they're not really launching anybody into the industry

fierce is so old. if you have to say fierce that many times to feel it, you're not fierce enough.

also, i'm not SURPRISED that he won, i'm just let down. he was definitely the best throughout, though. my question is: are they supposed to think about the whole season when judging? or just the challenge at hand?

I wish Jay McCarroll would sell his s1 collection on Bluefly, it is still my favorite thing from the whole series.

agreed

re: christian's hair...i am one degree of seperation away from a certain PR finalist who didn't make it to the final three and word is that xtian's hair is merely an elaborate combover to hide his swiftly receding hairline...which i thought was hilarious.

last night's show was fantastic, i thought! and despite not really liking him all season, i felt his work was definitely good enough to win.

you have Posh in the front row wearing that AWESOME PINK thing

you couldn't even tell she was wearing ORANGE and you expect me to take your opinion of christian with a grain of salt?! honestly.

"re: christian's hair...i am one degree of seperation away from a certain PR finalist who didn't make it to the final three and word is that xtian's hair is merely an elaborate combover to hide his swiftly receding hairline...which i thought was hilarious."

I believe that Jay McCarroll made this joke on one of his blog posts!

you couldn't even tell she was wearing ORANGE and you expect me to take your opinion of christian with a grain of salt?! honestly.

-- the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:50 (30 minutes ago) Link

ur right it wasn't exactly pink. it was beautiful tho -- the color and the cut.

She still looks a little like a super skinny Miss Piggy.

haha yeah. and tan

and with better udders

I don't know, there's that one pic that shows some pretty spectacular ones on MP.

yeah, I thought for a second my tv color was way out of whack because all I saw was Posh wearing orange.

really nice shade of orange... very warm.

and the gold bracelet(s)! they were like glistening.

dude Posh Spice bluuuuuuuuh
<br>and stepping up in defense of Rami, the lace evening gown was amazing<br>also, otm Maria abt Christian's clothes looking better in motion

fucking brackets

NEW SEASON JULY 16th!!!!!!!!!!

omgomgomgomg!!

there's a chance a good friend of mine is on this season. i haven't seen her recently though, so i dunno

not working on it this season :(