Dida is a cheating bastard

To be fair to milan, their spokesman hasn't made a big deal of it saying it's nothing to do with them. It's up to UEFA.

So what punishment should Celtic get?

A fine for a fan coming on should suffice.

and Dida cost 2 goals as well...

Systems thinking would analyse all potential punishments in a holistic manner then pick the most appropriate.

CHEAT DIDA ! DIDAN'T MORE LIKE !

OOH DODGY KEEPER!

Despite never playing a match during his brief tenure at FC Lugano, Dida received a warm reception from the fans during training sessions that were held by the Brazilian squad in Weggis, Switzerland prior to the World Cup finals. During the team's two-week stay in Weggis, he also organized a Ping-Pong tournament in which many of his teammates, such as Lúcio, Robinho, Fred, Ronaldinho, and Ronaldo, participated. He was defeated by Juninho Pernambucano in the championship match, and the winner's trophy was even named after him.

I wouldn't want to win the Shite Goalkeeper Trophy

weird

If Dida had a sex change operation, would she rename herself Dido?

Doodah

"if dida had a sexchange op, doodah, doodah"

Only black goalkeeper in Italian football, apparently.

Has Jesse Jackson even BEEN to San Siro this etc etc etc

Rivaldo, Dida. Fucking Brazilians. Cheating cunts.

Watch the incident here http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1286930,00.html

I actually feared for a minute or two that he might have been slashed - dunno if slashing is as popular in Glasgow as it has always been in the past tho

Aye, watching the replay does make you wonder a bit about the slashing possibility, doesn't it - he definitely brushes his neck at just the bit he's holding as he collapses. I think the guy was just an overexuberant wee wingnut though and Dida was milking it.

that is fairly rich from a man who's just let through a crucial last-minute goal.

It looks worse every time you watch - Dida's behaviour I mean, not the Buckfast Bhoy's

I doubt Dida will get reprimanded because it wasn't an incident with another player. It might still get viewed as an attack anyway.
Maybe Dida's antics will mean more sympathy for Celtic though.

In those seconds chasing the fan, Dida clearly sensed an opportunity to get the result reversed. He went down and stayed down, leaving the pitch like a coward, in an effort to erase his own mistakes. He should received the utmost censure.

I just hope some UEFA medical people checked him over otherwise there could be a Rapid Vienna moment and the player suddenly has a wound that wasn't there when he left the pitch.
Tom D will remember that game.

Gerry McNee certainly remembered it in his thoroughly impartial assessment of the incident on Scotsport last night. Really old people (or anyone interested in the history of cheating scumbags) might also remember Robert Rojas slashing himself for lolz (and getting totally done over for it, haha).

Don't fucking remind me (xp). Absolutely no way whatsoever Dida will be reprimanded. I'm beginning to doubt he got hit by that flare against Inter...

Didn't see Scotsport. I like to avoid anything Gerry McNee is on.
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Let's be realistic, if there had been any sign of an injury then Galliani, Ancelotti and (not least) Berlusconi wouldn't be saying there was nothing to protest about.

This is all clearly a narrative arc leading to Dida being impaled by a metal spike thrown from the crowd, and being dismissed as the boy who cried wolf while play continues.

No, that's rangersfootballclub paranoia. Big difference.

As I said on the Champs League thread, I'm fairly optimistic of a slap on the wrist and a fine for the crap stewarding. Kerr's hysterical worst-case scenarios on this and the other thread seem very unlikely indeed. UEFA have shown a willingness to clamp down on cheating with the ban for Mikolaunis diving in the match against Scotland recently, and with Celtic fans' fair play record and every Milan representative speaking up for them, I don't see a case for punishing Celtic any more than is strictly necessary.

and, yes, no statements of the "keeper was slashed/knocked unconscious/broke his collarbone" variety.

I hope UEFA punish Dida, but can't see that happening.

Why not?

Because I'm sure they will consider a fan encroaching on the field and "interacting" with a player to be a far far greater crime than a bit of play-acting from a player AT ONE OF EUROPE'S LEADING, SORRY, RICHEST CLUBS

what he said

I'll be happy if proved wrong.

and tom you forgot "corrupt"

I thought Platini's new UEFA plan was all about fairness and stamping out irregularities. His plan to stop the big countries hoovering up all the CL places surely shows a beginning to the end of the old regime? Also, Celtic are a pretty big draw in terms of fans and therefore money, so surely also an asset in the CL?

UEFA have shown a willingness to clamp down on cheating with the ban for Mikolaunis diving in the match against Scotland recently

TS: some Lithuanian bloke who plays for Hearts vs. goalkeeper for Champions League Winners

Aren't most of the top clubs against what Platini says though?
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You've got it all wrong, the wee ned obviously threw some anthrax or ricin into Dida's face as he ran by. Dida tried to apprehend the villain but was overwhelmed by the toxin, hence his reflex action of covering his face, but sadly too late for the big cheating shite unjustly maligned keeper as he fell to the ground.

The guy supposedly escaped into the crowd afterwards so watch out for a media witch hunt to identify him over the next few days if he isn't found.

Where was Kenny Miller that night?

Really? You think people might want to know who the wee fucker is? I'm pretty sure Celtic might be interested in order to remove his season book from his possession forever, for starters.

I think it does say a lot about the so-called "British disease" that for some over-reacting to an attack outside of the bounds of an actual football game is a worse crime than, y'know, running onto a football pitch and attacking someone

Who was attacked?

You've got a point, Dom, but that doesn't take away from the fact that Dida's antics were opportunistic and reprehensible.

But who was attacked?

He didn't fucking attack him! He hugged him! He was a wee idiot thinking he was having a laugh and the keeper was playacting like a man who's just lost his team the game and is trying desperately to get it back. If he had actually attacked him, fair enough, but all this doom and woe stuff is laughable.

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That midge on Dida's collarbone that the celtic fan was trying to swat to prevent dida catching something (no, not the ball)
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I think it does say a lot about the so-called "British Italian disease" that for some over-reacting to an attack outside of the bounds of an actual football game is a worse crime swatting of a midge than, y'know, running onto a football pitch and attacking someone bribery and corruption

Good one Google.

I can't work it out, something about whether Milan should be punished for the actions of the player?

I was hoping the resident Italian would help out.

Yeah, that's the gist of it I got.

Either that, or "is Dida a tumbling dickweed?"

I was hoping the resident Italian would help out.

There's an Italian in my office, I could go over an tap him on his shoulder and ask him but I fear he would accuse me of attacking him

Does Milan have an obligation to adopt sanctions towards its players

Also Dud of the Day:

GIOCATORE FLOP - Dida. Inevitabilmente. Due errori marchiani, un comportamento perlomeno discutibile dopo il contatto con l'indisciplinato fan scozzese. Due giorni disastrosa per i portieri:

Inevitable. Two errors. Acted like an arsehole at the end. What a tit.
(not a literal translation :P )

Basically, should Dida be punished by FIFA, and should Dida be punished by Milan, roughly translated

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7028169.stm

Thanks Dom, that makes more sense.

I think he should be ridiculed rather than punished, but I'm quite happy to let it go altogether if Celtic get off the hook.

(slight diversion: other than by using fences, how do you prevent stupid pricks from entering the field?)

A spokesman for Celtic said a 27-year-old man, who was not a season ticket holder, had been interviewed.

I told you it was Kenny Miller

More (better) stewards?
Don't let any fans in who have been drinking?
Don't score in the last minute against big teams? ;)

Don't let celtic fans into the stadium? ;)

Don't let any fans in who have been drinking?

http://www.exec-comms.com/Pictures/Blog/empty_stadium_med.jpg

I reckon it was just Deek, trying to get a bit of first team action.

Aren't most of the top clubs against what Platini says though?

Just wondering what difference that makes (if true)? If UEFA make a decision, can the teams turn round and go "nah, don't like yer boss, stick yer decision up yer jacksie, mate"?

There is a danger that that is exactly what will happen if Platini keeps annoying them. Not on this particular incident, but on the whole restructuring crap with the ridiculous plan to let cup winners into the CL.

On Celtic: a "source" has told Sporting Life Celtic will get a heavy fine but no points/result/replay sanctions.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/07/10/04/SOCCER_Celtic_UEFA_Nightlead.html

(also includes Frank McGarvey *still* in a strop about Rapid Vienna! Let go Frank, let go!)

G14? Danger of breakawy from UEFA? Setting up of own competitions? Like what's happened in just every major footballing country in the last 10-20 years?

never gonna happen. um, again.

Well, yes, longer term, but I was thinking more of what effect Kerr foresaw Platini's role having on Celtic's immediate future in the Champions League this season, since the point I was making just prior to that was that Platini's said (and shown) that UEFA are cracking down on simulation / cheating and could make an example of Dida.

And as I said earlier, they are cracking down on Lithuanian blokes who play for Hearts and the like

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_2778470,00.html

So, he's been banned for life for pitch invasion? I think this is harsh even if he did lightly graze the poor fellows cheek. Does anyone ever appeal these lifetime bans? Is there a procedure even for such an appeal.

I'd ban him from even watching Celtic games in the pub

Seriously though, how do these bans work? I don't remember ever seeing photos up off people who have been banned. Has there been any work done on the efficiency of these bans? I'm thinking I might get a grant out of this...

Aye, the guy doesn't have a season ticket, surely he could just rock up at the ground with a ticket and get in. We don't even have dudes manning the turnstiles any more, it'd be so easy to go through.

I'd bet a few quid on his face being plastered all over the Scottish rags this week. He might not want to try walking up to Celtic Park with a ticket.

Shouldn't he at least get let in when he's an OAP for copping a guilty plea?

I think it'll be rescinded or reduced in time, they're a forgiving bunch, these universal types.

Maybe he could try supporting Rangers instead

It says he's banned home and away. One thing turning up at Parkhead and not getting in, but will the stewards at Tannadice or Easter Road be so concerned?

I think it means Celtic wont sell him any tickets for their end.

the video was hilarious! it was like scottish dude "la di da di da YOU'RE IT!!!" and then dida "aw noes i don't want to be it! *cries*"

if celtic loses the match for it.. then if i were a manager, next time there's a crucial match, i'll plant one of my guys in the opposition supporters and get them to touch some of my players and then we win the match by default.

Touch or touch up?

I think it means Celtic wont sell him any tickets for their end.

So he gets a mate to buy him one or gives a false name to the dude on the other end of the phone at the ticket office. Not really that difficult. Though, aye, I'm guessing he won't be too popular for a while and might not want to try it.

he can just put on one of those hats with fake ginger hair at the back and noone will recognise him?

He might get mistaken for gordon strachan

http://i22.tinypic.com/dpxrvr.jpg

Dida should be banned for three matches, tarred and feathered and placed on the Sex Offenders Register.

Ali should be carded for taking his shirt off.

No shinpads either.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7034017.stm

You must be pretty upset that they didn't castrate him, if that'd been Artur Boruc he'd be stumbling round slowly leaking blood and looking traumatised by now.

Uhhhhhhhhhhh, what?

Anyway, surprised at this outcome. Well done, UEFA!

I said (hoped) that they'd make an example of Dida since Platini's all about the cracking down on cheating. Go UEFA! Also, sets up our last group game against AC Milan to be a barrel of laughs.

I predict no random attacks on Scottish fans by Italian police in the return leg.

hahahaha

Are you predicting that the attacks won't be random?

The Scottish champions will pay half of the fine now, while the rest is deferred over a two-year probationary period.

isn't that quite pointless over £12500??