Call to N and other research geniuses: can anyone find the text of 'Thine Own Self Is Basically A Ratfink' speech from the end of 'Last Days of Disco'?

"What if 'thine own self' is pretty bad?"

I can't remember the whole thing, sorry!

oh, I found a little more: "Do you know that Shakespearean admonition 'To thine own self me true'? It's premised on the idea that 'thine own self' is pretty good, being true to which is commendable. What if 'thine own self' is not so good? What if it's pretty bad? Would it better, in that case. not to be true to 'thine own self'? See? That's my situation."

I just found the screenplay (not online), and it seems to be only held by one library.

Are you still giving sermons, GP??

Not sure how much of it was adapted, but here's the original novel:

The last days of disco : ǂb with cocktails at Petrossian afterwards : a novel / ǂc by Whit Stillman ; drawings by Pierre Le Tan.

the novel is a "novelization" of the movie and it came after. I don't think it reproduces the speech, but it might.

You can read it on Amazon's "look inside" thing - it's pretty much what you posted.

http://i24.tinypic.com/epn7dx.jpg

it's a quote mark bonanza!

I am sad I was not around to rise to this challenge. Bravo, onimo.

I took out the DVD and every word is correct in the horseshoe version. Exact. Thanks for giving me an excuse though, god I love this movie. Best soundtrack ever. Officially.

i can't remember - do they do air quotes when saying this? i really feel the lines would lose something without the quote marks

Its all in the tone of voice

I don't think Des does air quotes, no. were people doing air quotes in the early 80s?

well probably not but they also weren't wearing those kinds of haircuts, or talking like that, or walking like that, or decorating their apartments like that either so why not?

i'm surprised this movie didn't have "friends" references in it

I am still REALLY confused about the Barcelona crossovers in this, leave alone the Metropolitan ones. Which I guess is what happens when you have the same actors in every movie, but only a couple of them are supposed to read as cameos for other-movie characters.

The only clothing anachronism that springs to mind is Chloe Sevigny's running pants. What, Tracer, were Oxford shirts invented in 1986?

the crossover is confusing, because one guy appears as both of his other stillman characters - the bible-dancing goody-goody from barcelona and the preppie st. francis from metropolitan (as the latter, he's escorting audrey rouget).

If I ever cross paths with Chris Eigeman again on the streets of New York, I'll bring this up with him.

Thing is, it's Polonius who says the "To thine own self be true" line, and he's full of shit.

I like the version when he sings that speech to the melody of The Toreador Song.

This was amazing guys. Thanks!

omg if you ever cross paths with Chris Eigemann again (so jealous btw!) tell him a crazy internet person proposes marriage!

the crossover is confusing, because one guy appears as both of his other stillman characters - the bible-dancing goody-goody from barcelona and the preppie st. francis from metropolitan (as the latter, he's escorting audrey rouget).

I always wanted those two to magically be the same mousy guy, but I guess there's no way that works.

i hear you, but i'm afraid that's impossible.

Here's a funny little interview with CE: http://www.nypost.com/seven/04222007/entertainment/movies/on_a_role_movies_sara_stewart.htm

Thing is, it's Polonius who says the "To thine own self be true" line, and he's full of shit.

OMG NOODLE VAGUE IS CHER FROM CLUELESS

Usually he is more like the Dan Hedaya character from Clueless.

My brother-in-law edited that movie.

I am still REALLY confused about the Barcelona crossovers in this, leave alone the Metropolitan ones.

The only crossover from Barcelona is Taylor Nichols' character, right? As long as you realize that The Last Days Of Disco takes place before Barcelona, I don't see what's so confusing.

That's the 2 best compliments I've had all year.

I prefer the other speech about disco and would like to go to any sermon that used that speech.

How does that speech go?

yah the disco speech is spicy and juicy and funny and yr like wow thats pretty prescient - oh right the movies from 98. i just watched it last night as inspired by this thread.

sooo gp what are you planning on saying abt that other speech?

Maybe I'd be more comfortable with the crossover if Barcelona dude was like "OMG, there is a manager at this club who looks EXACTLY like my brother."

(Cousin, I mean.)

That character really took a wrong turn when he started hanging out with Mike Binder on that HBO series.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qC7aqg7qzSQ

DISCO WILL ALWAYS LIVE ON IN OUR MINDS AND HEARTS!!!

Heheh, that's the one...

"Most of what I said, I believe"

"Anything I did that was wrong, I apologize for. ... But anything I did that was *not* wrong, I *don't* apologize for!"