Hey, if dogs can sense Terminators, can they be used to find replicants?

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These are the kinda thoughts that wander thru my head as I drive around town in the course of doing my new job.

And how was your day?

yeah but first you have to come up with an appropriate test to determine that the dog itself is not synthetic! can a replicant dog detect the difference beween itself and a real dog? Can a real dog tell the difference? I mean if Deckard is a replicant and he can tell the difference but he doesn't realize he himself is a nexus-whatever then a replicant dog may have a similar conundrum.

roy batty could probably whup the terminator's ass.

what if a facehugger tried to use a replicant for a host? would the resulting burster be viable? or would it create a special alien with special replicant alien abilities and skinjob philosophical baggage?

was jack the ripper the first blade runner? did he go insane because he was a replicant himself, like Deckard may have been? what does Tesla's machine from The Prestige have to do with all of this?

Can we get Dr. Who to post to ILX, I have a feeling he could help

cylons are easy to spot, they look like big silver robots with one red eye

yes but how do you tell the difference between that and a terminator momus

i can't believe you're picking on a cripple

sorry, that was over the line

momus has both of his eyes!

I didn't think of it as picking on him, but okay

Dogs can sense Terminators?

yeah check the wiki

also should we get into the predestination paradox of skynet and the terminator here? that's another interesting set of problems

Skynet=true origin of the Matrix. The "Terminator" movies are merely test simulations on how to deal with possible resistance figures. They are not depictions of actual events, which is why the illogical-seeming predestination/time paradox thread keeps appearing in those films: Skynet cannot imagine a universe in which its existence is not inevitable.

what if a facehugger tried to use a replicant for a host? would the resulting burster be viable? or would it create a special alien with special replicant alien abilities and skinjob philosophical baggage?

-- El Tomboto, Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:46 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

The alien needs a carbon-based life-form to reproduce, I believe. The alien itself seems to have qualities of organic and non-organic life.

More here:

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Dogs can sense Terminators?

-- S-, Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:19 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

they can! cats can too, but they choose not to say anything.

oh, and since replicants are not robots in the classic sense, but artificial organisms with bioengineered parts (most likely enhanced with cybernetic implants), it's conceivable the xenomorph could use it as a host since they have genetic material for the facehugger to create an embryo with (see the "DNA Reflex Theory" entry in the Anchorpoint Essaysfor further elaboration).

however, androids as depicted in the "Alien" films, being entirely synthetic, could not give birth to a xenomorph because of their lack of genetic material. Same for Terminators, since the bulk of their mass is taken up by a metal endoskeleton, with the only DNA being in the outer skin and muscle tissue (which is mostly superfluous and serves merely as camouflage in human environments).

One more thing, a Nerd-model human can sniff out a Klingon infiltrator from instantly by simply glancing at their forehead (usually it is ridged).

Skynet cannot imagine a universe in which its existence is not inevitable.

-- latebloomer, Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:44 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

this is called the Cyberthropic Principle

"from instantly" supposed to be "from a distance", duh.

OR IS IT?

What about if a facehugger used a Jedi Knight as a host? Can midicholorians survive in acid? Would it give birth to a Jedi Alien or more likely a Dark Lord of the Sith Alien?

Star Wars is total fantasy, silly!

Same shit, different galaxy.

i would imagine any xenomorph born of a Jedi would be able to have some pretty wicked force powers. because of the aliens' atavistic nature it would most likely be on the "dark side", though.

a xenosith, if you will

i'll say this though: an alien born from a wookie would be kind of simultaneously awesome and ridiculous.

Neeeerds

why doesn't the matrix just power itself with replicants?

it didn't think of that

they probably aren't as stable

http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/images/the-island005.jpg

also did not engage the canine question

i think he engaged that canine eventually, tom

What is the dog was a REPLICANT Dog, could a real dog tell?

and what is the name of the test real dogs use on possible replicant dogs

chewering test?

http://kamaladolphinkingsley.com/otisblog/images/butt-sniffing-train-web.jpg

the Butt-Snimpff

I think if a dog had peed on the replicant, or the replicant had just played with a cat, or it had bacon grease all over it, I think a dog would go straight for that replicant.

What about if a facehugger on a borg? Would the resultant alien be cybernetic or would borg tech kill it?

What is the dog was a REPLICANT Dog, could a real dog tell?

DUH, of course. Didn't you see "The Thing"? (which I saw this weekend and the kennel scene sparked this thread)

Real dog would pee on that dog. Especially if another dog had peed on it.

the Butt-Snimpff

i think TSA already employs this:

http://www.narcdogs.com/dogsniff.jpg

Dude, the borg would totally assimilate the facehugger, leading to awes facehugger-lead advancements in borg genetic evolution.

Thing is, both cylons & replicants are organic robots, needing sub-cellular investigation to determine the differences. Since there's enough organic bits in there for the chestburster to gestate in, and since facehuggers are apparently pretty adaptive, they should be easily able to infest those two kinds.

Say, could an organic robot, one entire comprised of flesh & other carbon-based materials, still be considered "artificial"?

My dog would pee on it.

Your dog didn't pee on that import copy of "Electroplankton" yet, did he?

yeah. i mean dogs can be taught to sniff out anything right?

also, no mention yet of the hong kong robodogs in snow crash

It didn't have any organic matter or prerecorded sounds of dog barks, and no other dogs had peed on it, so, not yet. Plus it has been too enjoyed to send off 'pee on me' vibes (which admittedly didn't stop my dog from peeing on all our DVDs titled A-D before he was potty-trained).

xp My dog only wants to smell dogs and their pee, and food.

if a dog or a cat can figure out when a person is dying or has certain types of cancer, they can root out a replicant or a cylon. I would think.

This is really making me want to write a macro wherein one types something and it responds that my dog peed on that thing.

My dog peed on your macro.

for what? mIRC?

I think I'll just do it as one of my patented retarded .xls file games.

eventually that macro will become Agent Smith

Who will then pee on things. "golden shower neo" will be one of those limited exclusive action figures you have to mail away for.

well, it was your thread

Lasted far longer than i expected it to, really.

this is like witnessing the birth of skynet

which was created by the Brother from Another Planet

what are these xls games

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/9260/

It is really sad when your first gut reaction to that article is "aw fuck, too bad I don't need an umbrella most of the time!"

The daily, Sisyphean struggle of a geek.

stay strong

still, i think we shouldn't discount Abbott's idea of "organic android = bacon grease" too quickly. There might be something there...

cyberbacon...a new frontier

once there is such a thing as downloadable food the internet will have fulfilled its promise

I was all talking with a guy about how I wanted a replicator more than anything, even if it meant only getting synthahol. He said they'd ruin the economy, and I said we wouldn't need an economy if we had them. We disagreed.

You'd need something to power them dude. Didn't you watch TNG?

We need Makers, like from Transmetropolitan. Things use trash. And then you bitch about having to find trash.

Abbott, DIDN'T YOU WATCH TNG?!?!??!?

TNG is for fags

I WATCHED TNG I WOULD POWER THEM WITH SYNTHAHOL

you haven't even had Jarrito's, wtf dude

I could use a Mr. Fusion it is so easy do you not SEE?

THEY DO HAVE DOGS in the galactica fleet! I knew it!

that dog was the one whose bowl Gaeta left info for the resistance on New Caprica

yeah lee implied that the dog would've been dinner if it hadn't been a hero

DUDE

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