URGH! cheesecake actually has cheese in it!

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i know this sounds silly, but i always assumed (or hoped) it was some kind of 'special ice cream.'

cheese? URGH!

― Wyndham Earl, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Just don't ask about headcheese, and you'll be fine.

― Brian MacDonald, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

thanks Brian *shudder*

― chris, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have always been bemused by the fact that despite containing 2 of the world's best foods EVAH i.e. cheese and cake, cheesecake still manages to be fucking vile. ALL cheesecake. Yes, even your mum's. They should call it something else.

― Emma, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

More evidence that emmahatescake.

― Tim, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Cheesecake is horrible. Cheese is not a sweet.

― Tom, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

time i think to resurrect the concept of SALMAGUNDY! overthrow the binaries!! upturn the episteme!!!

― mark s, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Cheesecake is the greatest cake in the world. Oh god it's so amazing. It's got biscuits also. Digestives must be crushed to make the base.

There's a place in Dublin I go to sometimes that sells Baileys cheesecake. I remember I was getting dumped in there before when I was like 15 and I was like "uh huh, but the cake". Although probably quite upset later.

Yes Cheesecake is fantastic.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

mmmmm, baked cheesecake = so very very num.

Bailey's cheesecake you say Ronan? wow.

― chris, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

and Ronan, not necessarily Digestives, try ginger nuts instead, they are marvellous.

― chris, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A blot on the landscapes of cheese and cake! And even worse it LOOKS tempting and then when you eat it, it makes you want to throw up.

― Emma, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

1. Baileys 2. Lemon 3. Blackcurrant 4. Strawberry. 5. Chocolate (yes it exists but is not great).

Now that I think of it there's loads of Baileys desserts over here, they're all pretty good too. Baileys mousse, ice cream, cake, yes.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Chocolate cheese cake becomes heavenly when made with marscapone instead of cream cheese. (Marscapone is cream set with citric acid, NOT 'Italian Cream Cheese' as I've seen it described)

Peanut butter cheese cake I remember as being very good but I've only ever had it once and I was youngr at the time.

Debate: Hovis digestives vs McVite's digestives for the base. Hovis do come in boxes marked biscuits for cheese don't they. But sharp cheddar on digestives with black currant or lingonberry jam is a snack of the gods.

― Ed, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

hating cheesecake?! that's like...hating strawberries! ie not possible! (by the way strawberries are very good on cheesecake) is cheesecake something completely different in britain than it is here in the US? real new york cheesecake is the best thing ever.

― geeta, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Cheesecake - vile pudding with crumbled up biscuits at the bottom + cheese based filling / topping with assorted flavourings, right?

― Emma, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

see i'm not sure how to decode that because in britain they seem to call everything a "pudding" and so i have no idea what that actually means. plus biscuits=cookies in "American", right. err crust i think is generally made with graham crackers. also the flavorings/toppings are often blended in with the rest of the cake here, though they are also often topped with fruit or chocolate or something. and there are different types - new york cheesecake signifies a rather specific way of preparation, and then there's "italian cheesecake" (made with ricotta, tastes very different) and so on. so i guess there are very large regional differences in the stuff.

― geeta, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I know Geeta. Hating cheesecake is insane.

And you called me a mentalist for hating those human flesh-like roll fillings you all eat

― Ronan, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It is the same thing indeed. Graham crackers are digestive biscuits I believe. Pudding means the sweet thing you eat after your main course. (Though then again you can get black / white pudding which isn't but I don't want to overcomplicate US / UK relations too much.)

― Emma, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dunno if bakers still sell 'em, but in the UK cheesecake also used to signify small round buns covered w/ stringy white (coconut?) icing - now they really were vile!

― Andrew L, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

but I've never called anyone a "mentalist", Ronan! Though I love that word so much (never heard it before I started talking to you people). Human-flesh-roll what? I am confused.

― geeta, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no I meant the cheesecake haterz. (who might be equally confused)

― Ronan, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I secopnd Cabbage on the ginger nuts as a base. Cheesecake is refreshing which may well be Emma's problem with it. She prefers a pudding which lulls her into the cheese course and the port / dessert wine - and while I can't say I disagree a bit of CC to finish of a three course business lunch is usually the ticket to get me awake enough to work for the rest of the day.

― Pete, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ok I understand now. Ronan, you mentalist!

to the cheesecake haterz: how can it be hated? it is sweet! it is made with cream! I still don't understand how it could taste bad, unless it was, say, Bovril-flavored or something.

― geeta, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

episteme destruction ahoy:
1. Salmagundy (contains boiled eggs AND slices of orange AND anchovies AND grapes AND broad beans...)
2. Gingerbread w. unsalted butter and bovril
3. Cheesecake (contains cheese AND cake)

― mark s, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Steak and kidney pudding.Mmmmmmmm.

― Jonnie, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ronan do you mean sausages? the myth that pork tastes like mang-flesh is a myth called mythical

― mark s, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My feelings on deli food were what I meant, as discussed here

― Ronan, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Fuck that was meant to be a link, http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q- and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=007p4i

sorry try that.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pete DO NOT PRESUME to know my tastes in pudding and also how can you say cheeseslime is refreshing? It is stodgy as stodge can be. I like a nice light sorbet, now that IS refreshing. And also you seem to have no idea about my views on pudding / cheese course etiquette: cheese comes after main course as it is SAVOURY and pudding comes last of all (well, before coffee and petit fours) - this is how our French chums do it and they are 100% right for a change. This way also allows you to finish off your wine with your cheese.

― Emma, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sorbet for dessert course Emma? How gauche. Surely it should be used as an between-courses palate cleanser. certainly not substantial enough for pudding, you'd need a semi-fredo at least.

― chris, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Cheese before pudding. This way lies madness (and left over cheese) - and certainly not hours spent pouring over many an open bottle o'port.

It is always over food the monobrain cracks.

― Pete, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

We have established those who don't like Cheesecake are insane.

But a dessert which DOES need to be mocked is Apple Pie. it's the Stereophonics of desserts. That means BORING.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What about male cheesecake? Or is that beefcake?

― Nicole, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

that would be beefcake, to be eaten well before pudding. preferably with sorbet after to cleanse palate.

Ronan, a well made apple pie is food of the gods. I saw a programme the other day mentioning having it with cheese, I am not sure of this.

― chris, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My mum used to make this Lemon Pudding stuff, it was gooey and spongey simultaneously, and lemony obviously. Now I cook/order/big mac my own dinners more often than not such delights are beyond my grasp.

Those bastards at Spar that I hate sell cream buns now so last week I thought "oh why not, I'll GO NUTS and buy one", and it was disgusting. It was an Eclaire sp? with all that slushy fake chocolate icing stuff. Absolutely disgusting. Is real chocolate too much to ask? Jesus...

― Ronan, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Emma you retain my full support on this one.

― Tom, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Did I say the sorbet was for pudding? NO I DID NOT I just said it was refreshing. Also I seem to recall that the use of the words 'dessert' or 'sweet' to describe PUDDING is NOT AT ALL the done thing.

Pete no wonder you like spam and powdered eggs, your taste buds have been wrecked by going savoury-sweet-savoury like a mentalist.

And cheesecake is still horrid.

― Emma, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I may be a pleb, but I know that you eat the cheeseboard last ;-) with the port of course, finished off with a fine cohiba.

― chris, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I just like the contrast that's all. Still no need to get all shouty on my arse just because I do things differently.

― Pete, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Are you 100 percent certain the French don't go cheese after pudding? Cos I'm thinking of the last time I was in France and my admittedly hazy memory suggests otherwise.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've always taken it that the English who cannot be trusted on gastronomic matters do main course-pudding-cheese whereas those noble gourmets the French always do main course-cheese-pudding. And many English restaurants now are starting to do it the French way realising that they are right on this one. Mind you in my experience the French don't really drink port so maybe that helps explain it.

― Emma, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't believe I said pudding. 800 years of fine young Irishmen giving their lives and I say pudding on the net. If Gerry Adams was at my college today I'd get my just desserts. shame on me, I know.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But pudding is correct!

This place is an etiquette desert. I'm off.

― Emma, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Will the PUB serve PORT tonight?? What is the official etiquette line of sneaking in yr own STILTON? It is probably bad... hmmm in that case our party will be PORT AND STILTON THEMED.

― Sarah, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well as not many pubs provide their own stilton I reckon you're OK smuggling it in.

― Emma, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

port = sweet so why are you crackbrains eating it with stilton eh? EH!?

everything should be poured into a single bowl: the concept of the "course" is totally bourgeois and eurocentric

― mark s, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark, cheese is perfectly accompanied by sweet things q.v. quince paste, a crunchy apple, grapes etc etc

― chris, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread is a perfect example how the sweet / savoury dichotomy is just inadequate to use to describe food. Until we step out from under its hegemony we will never understand the subtle differences between sharp, bitter, tart etc etc.

― Pete, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

tart? hanle y and ally to thread!!

― mark s, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've eaten a slice of something called cheesecake in England. If it was typical, it bore no resemblance to what you get in, say, Brooklyn, which is heavy, slightly tart, and delicious.

As for cheese desserts: CANNOLI immediately proves the nay-sayers wrong. Mascarpone!

― Benjamin, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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Mmmmm pavlova. Summer food of the gods, with fresh berries.

― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

In my house it is known as SERNIK, and is DIVINE.

― JTS (JTS), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

pav with a grated cherry ripe on top = rawesome.

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Cherry Ripe = classic that is not to be found where I live :(((

― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

my cat attacks for cherry ripe. me, that is. Jaq where do you live?

― sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Middle of nowhere, Washington state. I used to work for a company out of Sydney and got addicted to 'em when I was over for business. Can you get them on-line somewhere?

― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

sernik? sounds eastern european to me

what on earth is cherry ripe?
how do you grate a cherry, isnt that a bit messy?

― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

cherry ripe = candy bar that is cherries and coconut, covered in "old gold" chocolate. Don't ask me what old gold chocolate is about, I just remember that from the label.

― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

my girlfriend made my parents cheesecake coated in raspberry jam and raspberries. AMAZING

― JW (ex machina), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Jaq, there is a store 5 minutes up the road from me (in Arkansas) called 'Everything Australian'. Its an Australian family that have been in arkansas for 18 years now and they still sound like they just stepped out of the outback. They do most of their business online. Theyre a little overpriced but when you got to have the cherry ripe you've REALLY got to have it. you should also try tim-tams too if you havent already.

http://www.everythingaustralian.com/

Also - they sell pavlova magic and the passionfruit syrup that goes on top.

GOOD:
http://www.aussiefavourites.com.au/cornershop/images/cherryripe240g.jpg

EVEN BETTER:
http://hoursman.blogspot.com/goldengaytime.jpg

― sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

what country is that from sunny?

― someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

god I would slaughter one of those cherry ripe blocks right now if one were within reach.

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Australia!

― sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Alright, thanks sunny! They've got those Berocca fizzy-lifting cure-yr-hangover drinks too!

Now, back to cheesecake. Frozen cheesecake bars double-dipped in chocolate = yes please!

― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

The jingle for golden gaytime goes:

"its so hard to have a gaytime on your own!"

which is so true

― sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

we're a pretty... obvious country when you think about it.

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Cheesesteak also actually has cheese in it.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 20 April 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

at work at the moment we're doing a t0bl3ron3 cheesecake and by god it's incredibly tasty

― Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 20 April 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Sernik is the name given to "cheesecake" by Polish people, like my paternal grandma. But these are superior. It has a very aqueous, "cornflour"-like texture which is sublime.

― JTS (JTS), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

I had many a Cherry Ripe! And a "Turkish Delight"... but what i had the most was the Cadbury Dreambar that was white chocolate with strawberry filling.

― DOQQUN (donut), Friday, 21 April 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

(omg J Gurthie.. I almost forgot)

― DOQQUN (donut), Friday, 21 April 2006 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

turkish delight = so good

― sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 21 April 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'm guessing deep fried cheesecake is available in Scotland?

― dr lulu (dr lulu), Friday, 21 April 2006 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

ach, gee bile ya heed

― Ed (dali), Friday, 21 April 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

what kind of man googles 'cheesecake' to pick fights?? get a grip mister

-- jones (victorygarden...), September 20th, 2004 8:29 PM. (actual)

there are so many great things in this thread.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 21 April 2006 06:19 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

This thread = awesome.

― HI DERE, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

Is Pavlova always dry and crunchy like a styrofoam cookie? Because I had it once and it was like that and I hated it. Give me cheesecake, pls.

― Laurel, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

I would expect a styrofoam cookie to be tough and chewy, based off of memories from when I was 5 and liked to chew styrofoam.

― HI DERE, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

Carrot Cake has carrot in it.

AND THE FIRST ONE TO MAKE THE KUMQUAT JOKE GETS IT!

― Mark G, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

Cheescake! Made with mascorpone! Nyom nyom nyom. The real question is: American-style or British-style?

― aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

chocolate cake has chocolate in it, but never, never enough.

― darraghmac, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

What the hell are the Britishers peoples going on about at the top of this thread?

― Casuistry, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

pudding and digestives and public transportation

― brownie, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

Kumquat cake has quat in it!

― HI DERE, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

This is the thread that reunited me with the delightful Cherry Ripe! Time to order more. (thx 4evar sunny!)

― Jaq, Thursday, 27 September 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

twelve years pass...

This thread = awesome.

― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 22 August 2020 00:34 (five years ago)

gdi now I want cheesecake

― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Saturday, 22 August 2020 00:44 (five years ago)

good job threadstarter never thought of making mayonnaise from scratch. I mean if you get the heebie jeebies from processed dairy products ... step the fuck back from raw egg yolk based cold sauces for another 12 years!

― calzino, Saturday, 22 August 2020 01:09 (five years ago)

As suggested/written by a writer friend this week:

https://www.kqed.org/bayareabites/138866/flavors-at-home-baking-the-bay-areas-most-hyped-cheesecake

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 August 2020 01:11 (five years ago)

I know this wasn't written by her but I love Soleil Ho and her articles in the Chronicle

― Dan S, Saturday, 22 August 2020 01:17 (five years ago)

URGH! A Cheesecake War

― Philip Nunez, Saturday, 22 August 2020 01:28 (five years ago)

xp haven't read any articles by Nastia Voynovskaya before now

― Dan S, Saturday, 22 August 2020 01:30 (five years ago)

If I had anyone to serve it to I would love to make cheesecake.

I made bread yesterday for the first time ever after zooming with my baker cousin. It came out fantastic, better than I could have ever expected

― Dan S, Saturday, 22 August 2020 01:41 (five years ago)

I’ve made cheesecake twice in the past month, it’s pretty hard to screw up. cheesecake > most other cakes

― brimstead, Saturday, 22 August 2020 01:45 (five years ago)

I love other cakes though, especially the coconut cake made by SusieCakes

I like cake much more than pie. All of my family members disagree

― Dan S, Saturday, 22 August 2020 02:01 (five years ago)

I discovered that cheesecake had actual cheese in it embarassingly late, but my reaction wasn't "URGH!" it was "wow, you can do that with cheese? can I have some more please"

same with carrot cake tbh

― CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 22 August 2020 02:22 (five years ago)

Soleil is indeed great. Nastia’s very cool and a good editor too, having written a few pieces for the site.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 August 2020 03:35 (five years ago)

something that can put up a fight against its big dairy flavor. A smoky Pedro Ximénez would do well here;

word

― brimstead, Saturday, 22 August 2020 04:04 (five years ago)

I was surprised to learn that pumpkin pie actually has pumpkin in it. I've never been able to the square the two, aesthetically. Just figured it was a special kind of nougat or something.

― henry s, Saturday, 22 August 2020 13:18 (five years ago)

I made a creamcheese + marscapone coffee cheesecake a while ago - the coffee from some strong esspresso and a dash of this:

https://mrblack.co/content/uploads/sites/4/2019/09/Mr-Black-Cold-Brew-750ml-Front-On_CReam.png

― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 23 August 2020 01:50 (five years ago)

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