Dimensional Analysis as a math technique: is this ever, ever useful?

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Like just for units conversions or stoichiometry or other mole-related problems? Bcz it is SO MUCH EASIER to work these problems without it. But will I need to use this for more complex things later on, meaning I should bite the bullet and figure it out now so I'm not overwhelmed later?

Right now dimensional analysis is the thing I hate the most.

Abbott, Friday, 9 November 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

anyone?

Abbott, Friday, 9 November 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

It's useful to me in my work, for preliminary system feasibility models and to simplify some of the code I write. I can't say I rely on it for any day-to-day life stuff though.

Jaq, Friday, 9 November 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm not thinking day-to-day but for future science applications and most of all for future science classes.

Abbott, Friday, 9 November 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

You may run into problems in which the particular unit conversion in question is more involved than what you're used to, but once you've gotten the hang of it, it never gets conceptually harder, just more involved.

Euler, Friday, 9 November 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

It's useful for pretty much any multivariate system, so yeah stoichiometry, thermodynamics, statics/dynamics, stress analysis. And anything having story problems.

Jaq, Friday, 9 November 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

Wow! Euler answered my question!

At this point it's just all these ones that cancel out in the numerator or denominator, and it's easier for me to set it up as a simpler ratio right now. Will this always be the case?

Abbott, Friday, 9 November 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

No, they're just making you take baby steps with it to start with.

Jaq, Friday, 9 November 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

I H8 BABY STEPS

even tho they are useful

says the person who writes out every teeny tiny step of her math problems

Abbott, Friday, 9 November 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

Dimensional analysis was useful every time I could only half-remember a formula in an exam, but that's not really a practical use. In the real world you look the formula up. But it totally saved my ass this afternoon. I was about to spend a week or so coding up some unit conversion stuff, which is error-prone and tedious.

caek, Thursday, 14 February 2008 21:24 (seventeen years ago)

I've found it can be pretty useful at certain times. I just hate having so many items where the numerator, denominator, or (especially) both is "1."

Abbott, Friday, 15 February 2008 17:24 (seventeen years ago)

:( I forget this

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 15 February 2008 18:57 (seventeen years ago)

At this point it's just all these ones that cancel out in the numerator or denominator, and it's easier for me to set it up as a simpler ratio right now. Will this always be the case?

-- Abbott

what does this mean? could you give an example?

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 15 February 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)

I'll TRY, not sure if the formatting will come out right:


24.3 g KCl * 1 mole KCl * 6.022x10^23 KCl atoms
---------- --------------------- = 1.96x10^23 KCl atoms
74.6 g KCl 1 mole KCl

when it COULD just be set up like:


24.3 (6.022x10^23)
-----------------
74.6)

(would label units here) I find it a big pain

Abbott, Friday, 15 February 2008 19:11 (seventeen years ago)

like I know that at the top is Avogadro's # and at the bottom is weigtht of KCl, I know those both mean MOLE, so why throw in "1 mole KCl" twice just so I can cross it out?

Abbott, Friday, 15 February 2008 19:13 (seventeen years ago)

It's easy to invert a conversion and not realize it. So you trade more writing at every step for a guarantee that you didn't screw up. You can save a bit of writing/crossing out when you're doing these long string-of-fractions-multiplied-together conversions by just writing the common units (ex. 1 mole KCL) diagonally between where you're writing them now. That's what I used to do, but I'm a huge nerd for notation.

Jacob, Friday, 15 February 2008 19:52 (seventeen years ago)

OK thanks abbott!

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 15 February 2008 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

nine years pass...

i did it once, for real, it is good for figuring out how somebody fucked up something that you can't figure out how is fucked up

j., Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:23 (eight years ago)


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