"Coffee's for closers" Glengarry Glen Ross poll

can only be "Fuck you, that's my name. You know why mister? Cause you drove a Hyundai to get here tonight, I drove an 80,000 dollar BMW. That's my name."

ABC. A, Always, B, Be, C, Closing. Always be closing. Always be closing.

"Fuck you, that's my name", ftw.

These have all been committed to memory by every scumbag salesman in every office I've worked in for at leat the past ten years. Oh, irony.

Gotta go with 'You get the picture? You laughing now?' when he does that hands-in-his-pockets sideways move.

Where the fuck was his oscar nomination??

genius poll

Baldwin is great but I think he actually gives the weakest performance in this movie.

I voted for "Nice guy? I don't give a shit. Good father. Fuck you, go home and play with your kids. You want to work here, close."

Get them to sign on the line which is dotted.

Attention. Interest. Decision. Action. Attention. Do I have your attention? Interest. Are you interested? I know you are 'cause it's fuck or walk.

http://www.joelogon.com/images_temp/glengarry_abc224x150.jpg

Always Blame Courtney

i loved this movie when it came out but the constant, pythonite recounting of its lines suggests that there are way more people who actually admire the kind of philosophy spouted by its bullshit protagonists than i thought

reminds me of the traders in "the boiler room" sitting around watching wall street and saying every line along with it

in the same way that the python-quoters obviously support the people's front of judea.

reminds me of the traders in "the boiler room" sitting around watching wall street and saying every line along with it

-- Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 14:46 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

^^^ this dude = not liquid

As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac El Dorado. Anybody want to see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is your fired. You get the picture? You laughing now?

hon. mention: "Fuckin' leads are weak? You're weak."

These have all been committed to memory by every scumbag salesman in every office I've worked in for at leat the past ten years. Oh, irony.

this and goodfellas, yeah.

the controller at the startup i used to be at a decade ago had a banner in his office that read "Fuck you, pay me."

If you wanna pick the best line from the PLAY, of course, you hafta eliminate Baldwin (character written for the film).

will bear that in mind.

Always Blame Courtney??

it's all your fault, apparently.

playing this w/ glengarry sounds effects was so much fun.

coffee's for closers sets the tone nicely.

good thread/poll

I love Boiler Room. Vin Diesel is in it.

I mean DUH.

Laurel, that wasn't good enough for Find Me Guilty

I've never seen this movie.

"Nice guy? I don't give a shit. Good father. Fuck you, go home and play with your kids. You want to work here, close."

Beating heart of capitalism right there.

No "GO TO LUNCH", no credibility.

That is not a line in Alec Baldwin's speech.

If you want to start a poll of the entire script of GGR, go for it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3HURJNd0J4U

I've been in corporate "training" sessions in which scenes from "Wall Street" were screened. My protestation of "Don't these guys all go to prison in the end?" was met with stoney silence and shit-eating grins.

I bet a lot of smack-heads enjoy Trainspotting too.

sexyDancer, envisioning you subverting corp training has brightened my day, thx dude.

You didn't specify the speaker in the poll, Nick.

it is a test

YOU FAILED

Too late, I already had TWO CUPS of coffee.

favourite lines from this are pretty much all pacino though

get me a stickagum, nyalshwyahowdachewit.

Great poll

I went with the "Hyundai" line, though also was considering: "I'm here from downtown. I'm here from Mitch and Murray. And I am here on a mission of mercy!" and "...the *real* favor is to take my advice and fire your fuckin' ass", the way the sentences flow for the former, and the caustic bite for the latter.

I don't think that because people know or rattle off the lines so well that they necessarily endorse the philosophy. It's a movie like "Goodfellas"...great/memorable dialogue.

It seems like these lines would just be fun to say, too, like physically.

i've already said teh coffee line once today
it was fun!

there's a relish people take in them which sort of freaks me out

this speech used to be a HUGE favorite for audition monologues

actorish types secretly want to be killworthy salesmen fux

similar skill set

Baldwin is great but I think he actually gives the weakest performance in this movie.

-- n/a, Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:12 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

yeah I kinda feel the same way. great role but he doesn't really kill it the way he does in later roles that demand some of the same things, like The Departed.

best part is when his brain thinks he's in the real play!

I love that.

I mean, it must be like memorizing a song, the beats are already so carved into your head that you just go on autopilot. Especially for dialogue like that Glen Garry scene.

thread revive regret

did cable air this often? I'm amazed how many people have seen this over the years.

sorry morbs :)

Pacino would do great with Levene's opening monologue. He also is at his best when playing someone who can't shout and control the room (Donnie Brasco, The Insider)--another reason this could be great.

yes Al, no more shoutin'. I hope he would lose the weird primped black hair for this role and play it like he's 72 (he is).

yeah al's just for men addiction creeps me out

They should get Gosling to do Williamson.

Only thing I think this piece gets wrong is that the speech is more about making the stakes clear at the start.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/why-glengarry-glen-ross-alec-baldwin-scene-is-so-u,82782/

Lemme buy ya a pack of gum -- I'll show ya how to chew

I guess I should crosspost the HAL PACINO 2001 video

did cable air this often? I'm amazed how many people have seen this over the years.

I actually saw this in a high school class!

http://thehairpin.com/2012/08/notes-from-an-all-female-glengarry-glen-ross-viewing-party

N: What if David Mamet was actually just Jared from Subway?

That hairpin piece is so annoying lol

V cool movie I worked doing admin stuff in a sales office once. V weird environment. I knew all about leads lol

I can't tell if you're quoting someone or if you're posting on ilx. The hairpin piece was funny and kinda insightful.

idk struck me as privileged grumbling from ppl who'd never stepped inside a shitty sales office

N: He’s not very encouraging.
AH: This is how you encourage a group of old men. You yell at them and belittle them. Remind them how weak they are.
N: I find it to be almost like nonsense, like I can’t — I can’t make sense of it. What is it that people like about this movie? Is it like, human? Is it true in any way?

yes

Yeah, I can see it that way, but I can also see why they think the movie's kind of over the top and unrelatable. Not every facet of being human is especially relatable to other humans (not an especially helpful truism, but it reconciles your and their povs), and in light of that, their questions and comments are fair. Plus, I think they're trying to entertain each other and their audience, so I don't junk it's fair to characterize what they said as grumbling.

GGR's in this class of movie about men that's ostensibly critical of certain male-centric institutions (like the mob) that at the same time seems to lionize some of the worst aspects of those institutions. Upthread morbs makes a comment about the shift in Mamet's politics, and I don't know his work too well, but considering GGR and Oleander, both of which I've read, I wonder if his politics have just calcified (which I think is what Morbs was wondering, too).

Anyway, that doesn't mean that GGR doesn't say anything of value about sales, real estate, the 80s, middle aged men, or capitalism.

The movie also makes statement on importance of coffee imo

pretty sure Mamet's language is not aspiring to big R Realism

none of this is to say i can't understand why you wouldn't like this thing by an unlikeable playwright about unlikeable characters behaving unlikeably

right it's not that i dont get why people wouldn't like it—its obv about a very particular culture (and masculine as it may be, I think its being underestimated maybe cuz the movie focused on men how many women have similar jobs w/ the same pressures—the office I worked in, the leading sales person was female, and the women were often doing better than a number of the dudes) (nb everyone was kind of sad).

but it's the feigned ignorance i guess that bothers me, the "who would live like this" stuff...idk, maybe a guy trying to take care of his daughter in the hospital? an average working person?

finding it tough to watch makes sense, the faux naif thing just bothers me for some reason

the best sales person in the office was a woman—and she was also known for using extra sleazy sales tactics to move the units they needed

yeah the culture of sales is in no way a uniquely male one, any more than the culture of office (micro)aggression is

and for most people, if you don't think bullying happens in yr workplace, you're probly the bully

The Wolf of Wall Street seems similarly dated. When I saw it, I thought of all these guys getting rich selling things over the phone, when now no one will pick up the phone to talk to a stranger, let alone their friends.

Daniel Pink has a good chronicle of how sales has fundamentally changed when both parties have access to the same information.

Also, related to D's comment, when I saw In The Company of Men I remember that the pack-mentality reminded me more of groups of saleswomen than men in the offices where I temped at the time.

Glengarry in a very specific way feels of the 1979-80 recession, the same "I got debts that no honest man can pay" of Nebraska, with the same underlying story being that there was no way for a weak-performing salesman to get the leads that would keep him from being a weak-performing salesman.

this movie is incredibly dated, but i still liked it. needs a reboot/sequel.

one where the coffee is gritty

The timeline confuses me. Roma, Levene etc believe Williamson that he "filed the contracts at the bank" even though it's night when they leave the office and obv no banks are open?

Ha, I never thought about that.

Well, now the clocks have moved over here, it gets dark before the banks close.

Banks in grocery stores used to be open late.

I doubt Williamson was dropping real estate contracts at a Safeway bank kiosk.

show of hands: how many ilxors in retail have been shown the Alec Baldwin clip by their supervisors?

Fantastic.

that is amazing.

That's almost too good to be a mere clickbait parody, even as great as clickhole is.

lol at punctuation at 1:20

its a labor of love, which all the best clickhole stuff is

listen

i got 48 hours to make you a loootta money

will you go to lunch

^ this is the real line to use at work, nm aida or abc

Go to lunch, George.

The Machine!

Don’t think anyone’s mentioned Roma’s burn of Williamson: “Who told you you could work with men!?”

I think about it all the time