SUPER COEN BROS trafficking in stereotypes and caricatures yes no maybe good bad who cares thread

*crickets*

yes! good!

ty tombot

I think it comes down to their best films being about MORE than just the caricatures (which, its true, are in every movie) - you know, Lebowski is a goof on the Big Sleep, Miller's Crossing is Hammett, Hudsucker is Hepburn-style screwball comedy, etc. But the reason I singled out Raising Arizona is because it doesn't have any subtext or even any real external reference points - its just wall-to-wall "laugh at the yokels" gags.

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-- Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:04 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

I vote ME
Well I vote ME
"I'm with you fellers!"

ban adam beales

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the cast of leibowski... hmm, let's see... includes a burnout, a vietnam vet, a slut, a yes-man, a wealthy self-important gas-bag, a pretentious feminist, bumblimg nihilists... etc ad nauseam. YES THOSE ARE ALL INTELLIGENT, SOPHISTICATED PEOPLE, NOT STUPID AT ALL, NOPE.

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but elmo its a riff on some old movie, therefore its ok

no that makes it less ok deeznuts

my favorite is on the other thread when cosmo says The Jesus is cool because he is an icon beloved by geeks

oh HEY WAIT, I forgot to mention the BENEVOLENT omniscient COWBOY narrator

hey check it out the hispanic sexual predator from southern california is totally hilarious

not to mention the viking opera bowling stereotype

but he is

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http://www.bay-area-bands.com/pictures/bab0379.jpg xp

they do have a pretty miserable view of human connectivity -- in all their movies communication is as hopeless and self serving as in mamet. how that relates to 'stereotype' i dunno, haven't thought that through.

all the not listening in big lebowski drives me crazy - i dont understand how people can watch it over and over

i have a number of acquaintances who go to "lebowski fest" every year. i don't really like those people at all.

b/c it (TBL) is full of funny xpost

love big lebowski but its hard to have anything to say about it any more

all their movies are like that! nobody ever gets through to anybody else... that's the big tragedy of 'miller's crossing' frex.

the mishearing and repetition are funny in lebowski, my favorite screenwriterly trick is how often he picks up other people's phrases w/o any real content or intent coming along w/ it

http://lebowskifest.com/images/2003/jesus_three.jpg

I would not go to the festival (wtf lebowski/anchorman nu trekkie rocky-horror fandom ugh) but I like the movie quite a bit for being ridiculous. I love when dude goes and gets the imprint off the porn king's notepad and it turns out he was just doodling an erection

dear christ omar

I remember when we used to have one thread for cosplay photos

yah not saying its uh bad or anything - just that particular tic drives me crazy - obv thats one of the edges to the thing - too edgy for me

ITS THE I WANNA DRESS UP LIKE A FICTIONAL PEDOPHILE BOWLER THREAD

WTF u talking about, gff? the 'tragedy' of millers crossing has to do w/ tom's moment of weakness / mercy and how that eventually requires him to become a murderer. did you even watch that movie?

i don't hate TBL but jeez

i dont even like to think abt that sort of thing

Can someone take a shit on The Ladykillers so I can agree with someone on this thread?

the Coens mostly suck.

As much as I love Hudsucker Proxy, Moses the Clock Man is a textbook Magic Negro.

Ladykillers trafficked in bad everything.

god I didn't even realize people went to see Ladykillers

yes in fact i did watch that movie. being a murderer doesn't seem that tragic, in context. what i mean is: the elaborate flip floppy plot is all about a dude tied up in the masculine gangster codes so that at every turn it's impossible for him to end up with the woman he really loves (and who in fact loves him)

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they did not write that tho right xp ladykillers

wow the wiki page for ladykillers is like 3x as long as the one for miller's crossing. fuck u wikipedia contributorz

for being dumb and awful

biz-r wtf who cares abt ladykillers?!?!

you know which coen film I hated that I was really stoked for? TMWWT. So BORING.

gff, I still don't understand how that relates to blah blah blah human connectivity blah blah communication blah

yeah The Movie That Wasn't There is terrible

TMWWT W REALLY T

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the man who wasn't there is horrible but at least it looks good

bla blah bla

srsly guys, let's talk about "Smell Yo Dick" instead.

TMWWT is a really good boring movie

ace xxp

but three kings rules, wtf wouldn't you watch that? esp if you haven't seen it ten times already

i was asking for suggestions for a trip to the video store/drug front down the block from my house

you know what movie we need a fuckin' thread for is BEHIND ENEMY LINES

i have seen it twice! most recently about a month ago.

i has a sixpack

have you seen that? rent that

kingdom of heaven is virtually the only post-braveheart flick that actually is really good and often awesome.

by 'post-braveheart' i mean one that apes braveheart

I has a about a half liter of root beer
my corner beer store closed before I even left work tonight

i have seen Three Kings twice, i mean.

xp no! maybe they have it. i DO <3 Owen Wilson (RIP). and i guess if they don't have it, i can just rent Miami Vice or Sniper. i mean why the fuck not.

Miami Vice=teh win

sniper is the shit.

sniper fucked me up when i was 9

for real, i lived in a house with a stairwell, thought dudes were gunning for me from the landing and shit

house with a stairwellway

wait i think i meant Shooter

though i too remember seeing Sniper (w/Tom Berenger, right?) as a kid

aight headed to the store/front.

maybe i'll live blog something! won't THAT be fun!

shooter is retarded but kinda worth seeing. sniper is ridiculous and amazing.

i worked with a guy who claimed ex-special forces, insisted he was a sniper. says that he learned from "sniper" about spotters being ordered to kill their sniper counterparts if they didn't carry out the mission. says he called his old spotter buddy "YOU WERE READY TO KILL ME, YOU MOTHERFUCKER?!"

i got master and commander f u if u disagree nabisco otm

behind enemy lines, three kings: yes
shooter: maybe
man on fire: no oooh nooooo fuk

fuck a russell crowe with a lute

paul bettany da god

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lol at everybody in the army ever insisting that they were SF snipers

met a dude in montana who tried for sniper school ("the red cloud dude WAU") but failed to pass the psyche exam. i assured him this was a good thing.

im a sniper of the mindo

I'M LIKE A SNIPER HYPER OFF THE GINSENG ROOT

sniping is a pretty primo activity

except when it is done by douches on the internets

virtual douche sniping?

http://www.colossusblog.com/mt/archives/images/virtual_morelli.jpg

first gis for virtual douche sniping

If only Blount were here to back me up on Man on Fire. It is insane and horrible, but it's like listening to GG Allin or particularly egregious rap. You don't have to agree with it to have your mind blown.

Black Hawk Down is almost unwatchable. Cloud of war, battle confusion, etc. yeah yeah yeah but Christ it's just not very interesting to watch whip-pans back and forth between characters you don't really know or have a reason to care about (except for Tom Sizemore, of course). Edited a little more rationally, it might have been good.

Shooter is very fun. Sniper seemed stupid (that's the movie where one guy's warned not to let any pee escape into the river or evil amoeba will swim up his urethra, right), but I might give it a chance on cable.

Master & Commander is tite.

i can't believe you're complaining about irrational editing in black hawk down in the same post as you're sort of praising man on fire

u mad!

M&C's dialogue was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more embarassing and children's theatrickal than i remembered it. i mostly just like it for sweeping shots of big ships and the ocean and stuff.

+ the doctor and the captain jamming in the stateroom

MEN MUST BE GOVERNED

"children's theatrickal" no wai!! more movies should have cliff's notes burke vs rousseau scenes.

yeah, i liked the jams, too. but the MEN MUST BE GOVERNED thing was more overbearing than I remembered. then again, i was *_* at the time, and tend to get a little over-analytical

xp not the CONTENT of the dialogue, but the hamminess! especially merry/pippen dude. there was lots of exaggerated mugging and oh my how british sorts of stuff going on. also, HOLD FAST dude was a cartoon and having him actually say "hold fast" all the time was a little smarmy

then again, i was *_* at the time

I would have been SO lost.

Up next (actually next-next): Coens traffic in Yiddish stereotypes, Policemen caricatures

This has been at the top of my list to read for awhile, bring it on.
http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2007/05/01/chabon-yiddish.jpg

also have been waiting for the Coens to bring their regional schtick to my native northwest since Raising Arizona.

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so more rural yuks (i don't always mind)

lol @ "we are streaming motherfuckers"

glad to hear this is a film now

although if anyone is going to completely miss the mark going for a coen-esque performance it's james franco

this might be a controversial take but I think he's actually a pretty good actor