"Announcing the biggest design change in British coinage since decimalisation"

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The Royal Mint's marketing hyperbole fills me with fear.

I love my portcullis and fleur-de-lis and lion and thistle thing and I don't want new designs "reflecting a 21st-century Britain".

How I square this with being in favour of adopting the euro, I don't know. I suppose then there's a good reason to get new coinage. It's going to be Antony Gormley's Angel of the North or a curry house in Brick Lane or something :/

I don't know why this has brought the fuddy duddy out in me. I spent so long absorbing all those designs when I was a child, I suppose. I didn't care so much about the notes changing because I never had them to look at very often.

Alba, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

I suppose it's not really hyperbole. It is the the biggest design change in British coinage since decimalisation. I just don't like their tone.

Alba, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

i guess it's symbolic that i do most of my transactions with a thin grey slice of plastic. maybe i could brighten up my debit card using some little stickers of and heraldic iconography and robert louis stevenson.

blueski, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

i guess it's symbolic that i do most of my transactions with a thin grey slice of plastic.

This is precisely why they have to jazz up the coins. The kids just aren't excited about using coins anymore, what with your credit card this, and debit card that, and "paypals" and such.

G00blar, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.platinum.matthey.com/image.php?pg=1194001211

We will not see their like again.

I didn't even like it when they changed them from saying NEW PENCE to TEN PENCE etc around the edge.

On the other hand, I do hope they take this opportunity to make the copper coins smaller, or even get rid of them all together.

Alba, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I messed that up.

http://www.platinum.matthey.com/uploaded_files/news%20room%20pics/ukl8pls_3.jpg

Alba, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

people to put on the new coins:

1p Robert Green
2p Samanda
5p Brucie
10p Tamsin Greig
20p Schnorbitz
50p Joey Boswell
£1 Tim Berners-Lee
£2 Tim Hopkins

blueski, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/SaveBritanniaMOS_468x313.jpg

Funnily enough, the Britannia is the design I care about least, maybe because they've regularly messed about with the 50p since that EEC handshake one in 1973.

Alba, Monday, 11 February 2008 19:45 (seventeen years ago)

Changing coin designs will provide important work for archeologists in the early 3000s tho.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 11 February 2008 19:50 (seventeen years ago)

lol like there'll be any human beings alive by then

Noodle Vague, Monday, 11 February 2008 19:51 (seventeen years ago)

I for one welcome our future panda archaeologist overlords

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 11 February 2008 19:52 (seventeen years ago)

Almost the pilot of Samurai Jack

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:22 (seventeen years ago)

I'll miss all those busted-ass twenty pence pieces from 1992 that the coke machine doesn't accept even now because they're a bit warped and manky.

Bodrick III, Monday, 11 February 2008 20:48 (seventeen years ago)

This looks like the mint's glib way of saying 'WE WILL NEVER ADOPT THE EURO'

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 11 February 2008 22:47 (seventeen years ago)

who'd've thunk it -- Alba the coin rockist!

the EEC hands one in '73 was genius.

the euro *is* the way to get kids excited about coins, obv, as they have the opportunity to collect the full set from each country, and the list is growing all the time! You can just imagine the kids boasting about having ALL the Cyprus ones already when you're still struggling to complete a set for Slovenia, all v similar to back in '79 when I always seemed to get at least one John Hollins every time I bought some Panini football stickers, and nobody wanted to swap him.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 11:31 (seventeen years ago)

Man, I had dozens of Leighton Jameses for the 74-75 book.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 11:58 (seventeen years ago)

Grandpoint Genie - sadly I think the things that excite the kids have moved on since the mid-70s.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 12:04 (seventeen years ago)

hmm, not sure about that, they seem more obssessed with street corners than ever!

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 12:05 (seventeen years ago)

It's not like they've been that constant since they went decimal anyway. I can remember loads of changes since I was a kid. Halfpennies have gone. They could easily get rid of ones and twos now, I don't think anyone would care much. Tens and fives have shrunk. I'm sure we were still able to use old shillings instead of fives until whenver the fives shrunk to their current tiny size (late 80s? early 90s?). Twenties and pound coins and two pound coins have turned up. Have fifties changed at all?

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 12:26 (seventeen years ago)

Fities got smaller as well.

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 12:29 (seventeen years ago)

i still have one of those old fifties, it's mighty in size!

Ste, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 13:24 (seventeen years ago)

Do plenty of damage to a referee's head during an Old Fim game

Tom D., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 13:25 (seventeen years ago)

Aye, I've got one in a wee box on my dressing table that holds various useless bits of currency (pesetas, francs etc) - it's like from a whole different universe of long-ago-ness.

xpost, haha

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 13:26 (seventeen years ago)

We certainly did use shillings in place of 5ps. Sometimes you'd get George VI on them and once in a while you'd even see a George V one.

I've argued for a while they should get rid of coppers, but I had a crisis of confidence the other day when I worried about rounding errors being too great. Could you have a situation where bank accounts would show any amount, but 5p became the smallest coin denomination?

Alba, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 13:28 (seventeen years ago)

The disparity in size between a 2p and a 5p concerns me greatly

Tom D., Tuesday, 12 February 2008 13:28 (seventeen years ago)

how long before the £5 coin enters general circulation?

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 13:31 (seventeen years ago)

Biggest drawback of £5 = temptation to overdo it on pub quiz machines.

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 13:34 (seventeen years ago)

£5 coin, that is - I've never succumbed to the "put a £10 note in" ones.

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 13:34 (seventeen years ago)

No £5 coin for a long time, please. I hope we get the euro before it ever happens.

Alba, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 13:35 (seventeen years ago)

Ailsa you just play a quid and you can collect the other 9 back. Me overdoing it on quiz machines more to do with being completely blootered.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 14:02 (seventeen years ago)

I've given up alcohol for lent, maybe now is the time to hit the quizzers!

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 14:04 (seventeen years ago)

well, yes, if i was not blootered i would be winning off the first pound and not needing £5 worth of goes to get anything back. as in "you CAN collect the other £9 back BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO, ARE YOU, YOU BIG DRUNKEN IDIOT".

xpost to Noodle Vague

ailsa, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 14:06 (seventeen years ago)

I start leaning over the shoulders of other people trying to play and being that annoying git who shouts out answers once it's that time of the evening.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 14:08 (seventeen years ago)

wow when did they reduce the 50P piece size?! no recollection of this whatsoever. how big was it before?!

pisces, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 14:37 (seventeen years ago)

As big as Chic's "Le Freak" 12" remix!

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 14:45 (seventeen years ago)

50ps be tasty.....

http://www.magicianscave.co.uk/Images/COIN%201%20002.jpg

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 14:50 (seventeen years ago)

The only original decimalisation coins that are still legal are 1p and 2p. The rest have all been replaced with smaller versions, apart from the halfpenny, which was abandoned around '84.

The original 5p and 10p were the same size and weight as the pre-decimal shilling and florin (2s) coins, which remained in circulation until the 90s.

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 14:53 (seventeen years ago)

I don't understand. Where is the news about the NEW coins?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

There is no news. It's hush hush.

Alba, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 15:39 (seventeen years ago)

Best crossover coin was the pre-decimal sixpence which had an exciting run as a 2 and a half pence piece for a while there in the 70s.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:54 (seventeen years ago)

they can't lose coppers and keep the 5p, it destroys the lovely 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 50 sequence.

ledge, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:56 (seventeen years ago)

which works in pence and in pounds, if you include notes.

ledge, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 17:57 (seventeen years ago)

I have no interest in this sequence.

Alba, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:22 (seventeen years ago)

I don't think the Mint does either, going by how long it took for £2 coins to be widely available.

I do not like 1 or 2p pieces much but the vending machine at work takes them and when you pile all your useless change in there it feels like you are getting a free packet of crisps.

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 18:33 (seventeen years ago)

1p and 2p coins haven't changed in design since decimalisation, but since the early nineties they haven't been made of copper. Otherwise we'd all be melting them down together with railway tracks and street signs, right?

Madchen, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 20:30 (seventeen years ago)

Well, I think there's still a bit of copper in the alloy, but they're only worth 1p and 2p now.

Madchen, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 20:32 (seventeen years ago)

A while ago I worked out roughly how much money I'd be down if the 1p and 2p coins were eliminated and everything rounded up, and I demand that they stay.

But then I still get excited by the thought of ever coming across a £1 note again.

(note that I'm Scottish, not TREMENDOUSLY OLD like many of you)

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 21:37 (seventeen years ago)

A while ago I worked out roughly how much money I'd be down if the 1p and 2p coins were eliminated and everything rounded up, and I demand that they stay ... note that I'm Scottish

:)

Madchen, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 21:55 (seventeen years ago)

heehee

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 22:06 (seventeen years ago)

ha oh dear. sorry about that terrible propagation of stereotypes, fellow Scots.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 22:27 (seventeen years ago)

Llantrisant, the Welsh town where the Royal mint is located, is known locally as "The hole with the mint".

Grandpont Genie, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 09:17 (seventeen years ago)

Could you have a situation where bank accounts would show any amount, but 5p became the smallest coin denomination?

Sure, that's what's done here (Norway), and I suspect elsewhere where the smallest unit of currency is far smaller than the UK penny (ie about everywhere): Smallest coin is 50 øre (0.5 kroner, approx 4 pence), but bank accounts go down to 1 øre (< 0.1 penny). Also, rounding isn't done when paying by card.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 09:28 (seventeen years ago)

I love that 'hole with the Mint' quote

Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 09:36 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Here they are

Alba, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 17:28 (seventeen years ago)

cool!

gff, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 17:35 (seventeen years ago)

The jigsaw concept is ingenious. It will encourage wealth creation through people wanting to complete the set.

Alba, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 17:40 (seventeen years ago)

OK, they're pretty cool. They should do bigger, better pictures that way - like currency jigsaws. It would be something to do on a quiet day in the pub, gathering all the edges and pieces of sky together.

x-post

dowd, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 17:41 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe they can put a picture of Our Maddy on the coins and by the time the coins come out of circulation again, she might have been found.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 17:56 (seventeen years ago)

i approve of this coins

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 18:04 (seventeen years ago)

The next design should have British monarch top trumps on them.

dowd, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 18:23 (seventeen years ago)

They will be "reflecting" 21st-century Britain.

Geddit???!!!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 April 2008 11:08 (seventeen years ago)

I for one welcome our future panda archaeologist overlords
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super!

the pinefox, Thursday, 3 April 2008 11:16 (seventeen years ago)

uk nu coins v us nu notes

http://www.typography.com/ask/showBlog.php?blogID=93

Alan, Thursday, 3 April 2008 12:37 (seventeen years ago)

hey where's my 2 pound coin???

Alan, Thursday, 3 April 2008 12:41 (seventeen years ago)

Not being changed, still with the annually changing design.

Ed, Thursday, 3 April 2008 12:43 (seventeen years ago)

I like these new ones except for the pound which looks a bit of cop-out.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 3 April 2008 12:47 (seventeen years ago)

Poll!

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 3 April 2008 12:54 (seventeen years ago)

New British coins - which ones the best?

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 3 April 2008 12:54 (seventeen years ago)


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