The style of a liberal often includes these characteristics:

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The style of a liberal often includes these characteristics:

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over-reliance on mockery 10
preference for obscenity and profanity 7
believing that the education of children is for liberals to control 2
draw an analogy between opponents and racists, no matter how illogical 2
bullying conservatives who disagree with liberal views 2
hostility to faith 2
willing to give away everything held dear by the majority to avoid serious conflict (such as liberal Prime Minister Nevi1
often declare that an adversary should be "ashamed of himself," while never saying that about a fellow liberal1
reluctance to admit that anything is morally wrong 1
using hyperbole instead of fact-based logic in an attempt to tug at people's emotions rather than appealing to their sen1
over-reliance on accusations of hypocrisy 1
insistence on having the last word in a discussion or debate 1
resistance to quantifying things, such as liberal bias or openmindedness 1
believing that conservatives will fail, and shock when they succeed 0
insistence on censoring certain speech, such as a description of The Flood or even teaching children about a massive flo0
claim that science supports their position, and ignore any evidence that shows their science to be false 0
pretending to know more than he does; Isaac Newton admitted that he knew almost nothing, yet a liberal rarely admits tha0
calling conservative free speech "hate" speech 0


and what, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

voted for "preference for obscenity and profanity," immediately regretted my decision.

n/a, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

"over-reliance on mockery "

lol

Euler, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

Funny- where's this from?

o. nate, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

Lots of big words up there that Hannity does'nt know.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

*doesn't

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

"resistance to quantifying things, such as liberal bias or openmindedness "

quantifying?

Abbott, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

"how much liberal bias does the media have, on a scale of 1 to 10?"

o. nate, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

# using hyperbole instead of fact-based logic in an attempt to tug at people's emotions rather than appealing to their sense of reason.[26]
# often long-winded and verbose, and in debates liberals often consume more than their fair share of the alloted time, leaving less time for the other side.
# attempting to control the rules of evidence used in a debate. For example, claiming that Young Earth Creationism is false, and then refusing to allow supporting evidence by claiming that the scientists are religiously motivated.
# attempting to control the definitions of words through political correctness. For example, referring to Israel as "occupied territories" or suggesting that Al-Qaeda terrorists in Iraq are not part of Al-Qaeda.
# Dismissing legitimate criticism as "a joke" [27]
# Denying something widely known to be true but difficult to prove, such as observing that men are far more likely to work in gas stations than women.[Citation Needed]
# Will often deny being a liberal, or will claim to be a "true conservative", while spouting liberal and democratic talking points and criticizing basic conservative beliefs and principles.
# using non sequiturs in argument, such as responding to the point above that liberals over-rely on accusations of hypocrisy by citing an example of conservatives' observing liberal hypocrisy. But their example does not help their argument. Quite the contrary, use of that example tends to prove that liberals do over-rely on accusations of hypocrisy (relativism). Think about that.
# selectively citing the Bible when convenient, even though they hold much of it in disdain.
# believing that bureaucratic honors or appointments are meaningful achievements.
# silly demands for apologies.[28]
# can't understand the difference between identity (e.g., color of one's skin), perspective (e.g., Judeo-Christian) and bias (e.g., Bias in Wikipedia).
# inability or unwillingness to differentiate between genuine conservative arguments and parodies of conservative arguments.
# "Contrariness is creativity to the untalented" - Dennis Miller's general observation about liberal behavior.[Citation Needed]
# Assuming criminals are on the other side of the political fence, without evidence.

and what, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

willing to give away everything held dear by the majority to avoid serious conflict (such as liberal Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, or those liberals who wish to pull our troops out of Iraq, and embolden the terrorists).

followed immediately by:

using hyperbole instead of fact-based logic in an attempt to tug at people's emotions rather than appealing to their sense of reason.

... amazing.

HI DERE, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

I love emboldening me some terrorists

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

such as liberal Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain

You what?

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

THINK ABOUT THAT

gff, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

this is the dumbest fucking shit I've ever seen

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

e did u see this?

http://crookedtimber.org/2007/11/21/by-their-fruits-shall-ye-know-them/

gff, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

# inability or unwillingness to differentiate between genuine conservative arguments and parodies of conservative arguments.

hehe

sleep, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

fake poll

darraghmac, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

actually, true liberal 'style' is often condescending and pedantic.

that said, these don't have much to do with 'style' as much as they do with rhetorical content and tone.

elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

* insistence on splitting their infinitives and dangling their modifiers

elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

actually, true liberal 'style' is often condescending and pedantic.

Why do I find that less offensive than demagoguery and obscurantism?

Michael White, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

conservative "style" is just as condescending and pedantic. I mean wtf do you think Bible-thumping sounds like?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

In response, I would merely note this:

http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=7411021&nav=S6aK

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

lol

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

Also liberal Neville Chamberlain, like many Anglo-American conservatives of his age didn't see the necessity of militarily confronting Nazi Germany until it was almost too late.

Michael White, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

insistence on censoring certain speech, such as a description of The Flood or even teaching children about a massive flood, despite its acceptance by a majority of Americans

Yer talkin bout Katrina, rite?

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

And how is it that so-called conservatives now feel like they deserve dibs on being the whingiest cretins on the planet?

Michael White, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

ha!

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

most liberals can't even see the issues because they are so fixated on hating george bush!

bnw, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

conservative style -- neglects the democratic necessity of forestalling a tyranny of the majority

elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

The Hillary Clinton nutcracker will crack smiles and nuts with stainless steel teeth secured in the upper legs

woah

HI DERE, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

liberal style often includes stinking like patchouli

burt_stanton, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

forestalling a tyranny of the majority

Before 'liberal' became a mostly amorphous word for 'on-the-left-of-British-and-American-politics', back when their opponents were in favor of established churches and aristocratic privileges, liberals believed in liberty and, in the American context at least, as the Democratic-Republicans, the predecessors (for good or for ill) of the present day Democratic Party, insisted on amending the proposed US Constitution with a Bill of Rights before ratification.

Michael White, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

kill the homo atheists in the northeast and their fag btheretehn in california

burt_stanton, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

my kingdom for an editable username

gff, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

The Parable of the Good Homo Atheist
Submitted by bill on Thu, 09/01/2005 - 22:09. faith Giving

You probably recognize the Parable of the Good Samaritan. Jesus told this parable to answer the question of a lawyer, or theologian, “And who is my neighbor?” What's great about parables is that they force the hearer to answer their own question. Sometimes, this is the best way to get people to rethink long held and entrenched rationalizations that help them avoid the real answer that's likely different from what they would rather hear.

The Parable of the Good Homo Atheist
There was a big disaster. Tens of thousands, probably hundreds of thousands of people lost all they had. Some of these had very little to begin with. But now they had nothing at all and no way to help themselves. They had no way out, and nowhere to go if they did. Now many Christians and Christian groups tithed to raise money to help. Some others merely prayed for God to send a miracle. They believe, that for their generosity God would bless them “Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, [into their proverbial laps].”.

But a gay atheist had compassion on the victims too. He knew well what it was like to have nothing and nowhere to turn. So he gathered up into bags his blankets and towels; stopped by the Super Target and picked up some children's toys; pulled out his cell phone and called his boss to take a leave of absence from his job; drove through the bank drive-through and got a few hundred dollars out of savings; and then drove on to the Astrodome to deliver his packages and lend whatever help he could. Although he knew he'd never see a single penny of his money again and that he'd be late on his bills for the loss of pay for taking a leave of absence, he just wanted to do what he could for fellow human beings. No supreme being was going to bless him bounteously because he believed in none. No religious broadcaster would sing his praises. If anything, they would only condemn him for his homosexuality and for his rejection of their religion. And because he didn't go through proper channels--theirs.

Which of these proved the better neighbor? Which of these loved more?

If you think that this is stupid, just reread the passage in Luke 10:25-37 again and imagine how stupid this sounded to those taught to despise Samaritans and to disdain everyone outside their group, calling many of them “sinners.” It may help your understanding to substitute the word “Palestinian” for “Samaritan,” as you reread the parable. But the real point that I want to make, questions nobody's compassion or generosity.

The point that I want to bring up is that we Christians do good things often to please God and assume that we will be richly blessed for our generosity. Atheists expect nothing in return. Expecting "blessings" or more stars in your proverbial crown, makes realizing the real blessing of giving while expecting nothing in return, difficult to reach. So when we ask people to give, we should stop encouraging them with promises of supernal repayment. Just give because you want to.

burt_stanton, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

damn I didn't read that, I thought it was going to be a psycho sermon. oh well.

burt_stanton, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

There's too many choices to choose from, like Ponderosa on a good night.

kingfish, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

bullying conservatives who disagree with liberal views

tuff liberlz

jhøshea, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ burt, pwned by sane Christians

HI DERE, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

Chamberlain was a conservative politician. In case it wasn't obvious, like.

Pashmina, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

Then again he did declare war on the nazis, so maybe that makes him a "liberal"

Pashmina, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

two button sport coat / untucked shirt / washed jeans / converse

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

beard

gff, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

cut-off jean shorts, pink "down with america" t-shirt, stink lines

burt_stanton, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

I should have figured this out by now, and I hope this doesn't come off as condescending ("don't take this the wrong way"?), but what does "liberal" mean in the US? Is it just anything along a continuum from John Kerry (or Neville Chamberlain!) to Noam Chomsky? Is Stephen Harper or, say, Brian Mulroney a liberal? Do you need to stand for anything or do you just need to oppose Christian fundamentalism and extremely (as opposed to fairly) aggressive militarism in foreign policy?

Sundar, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

it really depends on who you ask, but yes, what you describe is certainly one definition

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

Depends on who you're talking to.

If they're a 'leftist' (ex. Chomsky) - then they'll not take kindly to being lumped in with the liberals. And probably vice versa.

If you're talking to a 'winger or libertarian, everyone to the left of Barry Goldwater/Dubya/Ron Paul/Reagan (pick one) is a Godless Leninist.

milo z, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

This can apply to a politician as a whole, as well as to their individual positions. So you could be liberal on abortion, but conservative on gun control, for example. There is a whole universe of issues that have been divided up in this way, and it would take some familiarity with the American political landscape to always know which side of which issue is which. I would imagine it's somewhat bewildering to outsiders, in much the way that someone learning a language with gendered nouns for the first time would need a while to learn whether a table is masculine or feminine, for instance.

o. nate, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:27 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks for the "Lol conservatives r dum" thread, Ethan!

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/302/deadhorseyk7.jpg

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

Barry G is too liberal for the cons, nowadays.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.boundbygravity.com/images/liberal_indifference.jpg

kenan, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:35 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.conservapedia.com/Liberal_Bias

libcrypt, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:36 (eighteen years ago)

Although some prominent liberal journalists and teachers deny being biased - or indeed that liberal bias exists at all in the media - many have freely admitted it (e.g., Andy Rooney).

libcrypt, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

that's funny. Wiki may be a bit slapdash, but someone would eventually edit out the part where they explain how liberal bias "infects" everything.

kenan, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

suit jacket and jeans
i'm feelin dirty, little loose at the seams

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

Jacques Barzun on "the great switch":

It is to the nineteenth century Liberals that we owe our political and civil rights. Sometimes the Conservatives helpe dhwen they wanted to outbid their opponents, but Conservatism normally stood for state intervention. It enacted the first factory laws, and "Tory Democracy" meant paternalism and protectrion over a broad range of social and economic activities. But toward the end of the century it became clear that neither Liberal freedoms nor Conservative restraints sufficed to give political equality and economic opporuntify for all.

...By the 1890's Liberal opinions everywhere abandoned the principle that the best government is that which governs least, and for practical politicans the ideal of liberty turned into that of liberality. A gneration later, by the end of the First World War, all parties favored some form of the welfare state. The Conservative (Republicans in America), slowly turning "Liberal" in the old sense, wer enow heard demanding a return to the "rugged individualism" of free enterprise adn claiming Adam Smith as their patron saint. The switch had taken place.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Thursday, 29 November 2007 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

Worst. Poll. Ever.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 29 November 2007 01:03 (eighteen years ago)

Che Guevara '08

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 29 November 2007 01:06 (eighteen years ago)

conservatives in america overwhelmingly opposed entering the war against hitler; their line (still spouted by pat buchanan) was "let the nazis and soviets kill each other off."

J.D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 01:10 (eighteen years ago)

Ann Coulter for Janitor '08

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 29 November 2007 01:12 (eighteen years ago)

when did ted kennedy become "lol at liberals" target number one?

J.D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 01:16 (eighteen years ago)

july 18 1969

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 29 November 2007 01:38 (eighteen years ago)

when were the Kennedys liberals?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 29 November 2007 01:39 (eighteen years ago)

i guess ted more or less fits the label now, but john was a moderate cold warrior at best and bobby was a belligerent ex-mccarthyite!

J.D., Thursday, 29 November 2007 01:48 (eighteen years ago)

straight up libertarians are like DID U JUIST SAY THAT MAN? libertarian: YEAH I TOTALLY DID.

burt_stanton, Thursday, 29 November 2007 02:26 (eighteen years ago)

The funny thing about the whole *science* thing is that in a sense liberals really do have a monopoly on science. I don't mean that there aren't plenty of science-minded conservatives or plenty of science-ignorant liberals, but the scientific mindset is inherently liberal.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 29 November 2007 03:50 (eighteen years ago)

And liberalism comes largely out of a scientific mindset.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 29 November 2007 03:51 (eighteen years ago)

But scientists DRESS more like conservatives than liberals.

Abbott, Thursday, 29 November 2007 03:52 (eighteen years ago)

37. can't understand the difference between identity (e.g., color of one's skin), perspective (e.g., Judeo-Christian) and bias (e.g., Bias in Wikipedia).

bernard snowy, Thursday, 29 November 2007 04:30 (eighteen years ago)

I mean just

wow

bernard snowy, Thursday, 29 November 2007 04:31 (eighteen years ago)

Photo bias is a common liberal tactic of using an unflattering or menacing photo of a supporter of a conservative position to create a hostile impression in the reader.

Examples include:

* Time magazine's cover photo of Ann Coulter, designed to make her look like a childish fool

I can't tell when conservapedia has been vandalized, does that make me a liberal?

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 29 November 2007 09:31 (eighteen years ago)

IRE got to it

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 29 November 2007 10:06 (eighteen years ago)

liberals: now to blame for conservatives' faces.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 29 November 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Friday, 30 November 2007 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

great work guys

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 30 November 2007 01:07 (eighteen years ago)

seven years pass...

Ctrl f strident- wtf

thoughts you made second posts about (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 23:02 (ten years ago)


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