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So it's time for another re-evaluation. I just watched Clerks II and enjoyed it pretty much. Not enough to give it an 8 minute standing ovation but still..and I know there's a lot of dislike out there, too, so...

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Clerks. (1994)16
Mallrats (1995) 10
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (2001) 3
Dogma (1999) 3
Chasing Amy (1997) 2
Jersey Girl (2004) 1
Clerks II (2006) 0


Ned Trifle II, Friday, 7 December 2007 11:08 (seventeen years ago)

yeah it's 'clerks'

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 7 December 2007 11:55 (seventeen years ago)

Mallrats by a nose over Clerks. Everything else, when actually thought about, pretty much blows.

G00blar, Friday, 7 December 2007 11:58 (seventeen years ago)

he gets worse with each movie, tho i've not seen 'jersey girl', and 'clerks II' was actually not too bad (tho i have such a thing for rosario dawson my opinion here is not to be trusted, and i saw it on a plane). clerks, then, tho i love mallrats too. chasing amy has moments, but is seriously flawed, while dogma is seriously flawed, but has moments. jay and silent bob is just dogshit.

stevie, Friday, 7 December 2007 11:58 (seventeen years ago)

I mean, I suppose Clerks II could have been alot worse, but it was pretty awful, even given Rosario.

G00blar, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:02 (seventeen years ago)

it was very poor.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:05 (seventeen years ago)

it can only be clerks.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:05 (seventeen years ago)

Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (2001) - too corny (loved the meta at the time tho)
Dogma (1999) - too alanis
Chasing Amy (1997) - too emo
Mallrats (1995) - too goofy
Clerks. (1994) - winner

blueski, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:11 (seventeen years ago)

J&SB has some decent lols.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:11 (seventeen years ago)

almost all of them stem from the cameos tho

blueski, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:17 (seventeen years ago)

yep.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:19 (seventeen years ago)

I'm reading his book at the moment (the diaries) and he really loves Clerks II, unsurprisingly. He has a very touching relationship with Jason Mewes irl it seems.

I really don't think CII is that bad, I chuckled throughout. The 8 minute ovation at Cannes is mystifying though given that Cannes audiences will just as likely boo.

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:30 (seventeen years ago)

haven't seen Clerks 2 yet. but who will own up to having seen Jersey Girl?

blueski, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:35 (seventeen years ago)

not even.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:36 (seventeen years ago)

no hate for J&SB. any movie ALL about J&SB rocks.

dogma was forced and unfunny, chasing amy and mallrats were whiny annoying teen movies. clerks, while obviously appealling massively to ILX, is good but overrated. clerks II is funnier, but without randall neither would workd at all.

darraghmac, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:39 (seventeen years ago)

whole lotta wrong there.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:40 (seventeen years ago)

Clerks=Blue Album
Mallrats=Pinkerton

G00blar, Friday, 7 December 2007 12:51 (seventeen years ago)

clerks II seems to succeed or fail on whether or not you find a man fucking a donkey to be the height of comedy.

again, my tolerance is based upon my love of rosario.

stevie, Friday, 7 December 2007 13:06 (seventeen years ago)

I was an extra in Mallrats -- I'm wearing a yellow winter coat in the background in the scene where the two main guys are talking about the physics of Superman having sex. I never saw the movie, but a year ago late at night I happened to flip channels onto that very scene.

Eazy, Friday, 7 December 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago)

Hey, that's me (in 1995) at 0:04!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pLewb-_JtPo

Eazy, Friday, 7 December 2007 20:44 (seventeen years ago)

"Dogma" is awesome.

HI DERE, Friday, 7 December 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago)

My favorite of his is either Dogma or Mallrats. Clerks is OK but overrated, never understood how it could be by far his best, unless you initially hoped he'd become some great B&W indie auteur and not a grown up fanboy making screwball comedies. never saw the sequel, actually did catch Jersey Girl on cable and it was far more enjoyable than it was made out to be. kind of ambivalent toward Chasing Amy.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 7 December 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago)

oh and Strike Back was a hoot, almost as funny as Mallrats.

Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 7 December 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago)

Dogma was funnier than Catholic school.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 7 December 2007 21:05 (seventeen years ago)

Clerks.

I kinda liked Mallrats and I didn't hate Dogma. The rest can hang.

will, Friday, 7 December 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

Rosario Dawson was the only remotely good thing about Clerks II.

da croupier, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:09 (seventeen years ago)

Mallrats! I still totally love it. Dogma and Chasing Amy are so, so bad.

horseshoe, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:10 (seventeen years ago)

I haven't seen Dogma in a long time but I enjoyed it. Only saw Chasing Amy once and enjoyed it until Ben Affleck discovers she slept around in high school, and then the whole thing went batshit. Haven't seen Jersey Girl, but I'm curious, as the clips I saw in This Film Is Not Yet Rated looked decently shot (the outdoors scenes had extras!), something that could not be said for Clerks II. What little I saw of Jay & Silent Bob was crap, always thought Mallrats was crap. Voting for Clerks, at this point I probably like him more as an actor in shit like Live Free Or Die Hard and as an interview subject than as a writer/director. Though it must be hard to mature and improve your craft when you have Aint It Cool News living inside your asshole.

da croupier, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:13 (seventeen years ago)

this can only be clerks but i'm not giving dude a vote on anything

gff, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago)

LFoDH just proved he should keep his trap shut whenever he appears on camera.

omar little, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:19 (seventeen years ago)

oh he was a fine stock techie

da croupier, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:20 (seventeen years ago)

if only he was, that scene was dire. tbh the film had plenty of other problems. but it was still kinda fun!

omar little, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:22 (seventeen years ago)

olyphant...i remember when he was this charismatic badass. maybe i remember wrong. nowadays he's stuck in deadwood mode. i like deadwood but that's not a good thing outside of the show.

omar little, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:23 (seventeen years ago)

there was nothing wrong with his performance a bad dye job wouldn't fix.

da croupier, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:24 (seventeen years ago)

him or smith

da croupier, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:25 (seventeen years ago)

I object to the premise of this thread.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:31 (seventeen years ago)

smith used to be my favorite director, back in middle school/high school. when i worked at a video store in NJ, clerks hit home in a huge way... i think mallrats and chasing amy are pretty OK; dogma and everything since are... meh. sometimes funny, sometimes totally irritating. the "theology" segments of dogma are so middle-of-the-road "spiritual" that i fast-forward through them.

max, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:34 (seventeen years ago)

What premise? xp

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:37 (seventeen years ago)

If Kevin Smith is a director, we need a new word for people like Spielberg, Coen, shit, even Oliver Stone.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:45 (seventeen years ago)

"William Hung - Singer"

Oilyrags, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:47 (seventeen years ago)

Well I was differentiating from his work as a writer but I get your point. Even if I disagree with it profoundly.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:53 (seventeen years ago)

It's okay, I'm done pooping in this thread. As you were.

Oilyrags, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:56 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Friday, 14 December 2007 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

surprise.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Friday, 14 December 2007 01:43 (seventeen years ago)


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