C/D: Mike Huckabee

He seems like a really nice guy who has a compelling narrative and might have a lot of crossover appeal, but still wants to do awful things with the gummint, especially on social issues.

Sometimes when traveling long distances, thanks to having no music in my car right now, I listen to right wing am talk. I've heard a couple dudes talking about him just making fun of his name, which I think is talk radio code for "This might be the guy, but don't want to align with him just yet, so I'll criticize him for something really stupid."

Honestly, I think he's the (R) to fear right now.

So, D.

His name would certainly stick out among the list of US presidents, much in the same way that it was striking to go from Brown and Wilson to Schwarzenegger.

DUD.

this guy's a fucking lunatic.

dead even w/ rudy in the polls according to cnn.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/10/cnn.poll/index.html

It's been interesting watching NRO world come to grips with Huckabee. To quote one of their number, "In my view, Huckabee is a big government populist liberal, not a conservative." (This from a Fred Thompson supporter.)

i still have a hard time believing that when republican voters step into the booth they are going to pick huckabee over giuliani or even romney.

Delete. Thinks it wasn't well understood how AIDS is transmitted -- in 1992. And is stupid enough to say it on the record. Believes in creationism. Perfect example of smiling and well-meaning but totally ignorant American heevahava. Public and collegiate education was better than this through the Seventies and Eighties so what's his excuse? Grew up with lots of 'em. Bass player in a covers band that would be bottled if it didn't play in front of DC politico-sissies and journalists. Check Youtube version of "Born to be Mild" -- er, "Born to be Wild."

Excellent presidential candidate for people who believe sub-mediocrity means likable.

well he may be reminding the republican party that there's some political advantage in not seeming like a complete insane asshole. although whether that's a good thing or not i'm not sure. the batshit craziness of the giuliani and romney campaigns has been kind of refreshing. "i'll torture people!" "i'll torture MORE people!" "i hate mexicans more than you do." "no you don't!" huckabee threatens to bring republicanism back into the realm of socially acceptable human behavior.

More bemusing "OMG, NOT HUCKABEE, HELP!" shrieking from the deep thinkers at RedState (more in the comments) and Hugh Hewitt (actually his minion Ruffini on "Defusing the Huckabomb").

tbh i think he's taking the I'M NOT A FLIP FLOPPER stance right now rather than the YOU CAN GET AIDS FROM BREATHING stance. though i'm not sure if his core voters realize that, and that's kind of scary.

The idea that someone who thinks the earth is only 6,000 years old could be the fucking president is chilling. Even GW would probably concede to the validity of evolution on some level, off the record at least.

which isn't to say that huckabee has modern views about AIDS or anything.

Dinosaur fossils are just God fucking with our heads.

He used to be pretty chunky.

If I can't trust a guy to be left alone with a plate of cookies, how can I trust him to be president?

classic for pissing off everybody in the country who makes or tries to make a living out of punditry

dud. extra dud for making that "i wish i were a baby bum-bl-bee/huck-a-bee" song go through my head every time i hear his name.

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It's guys like Huckabee that make America seem so foreign to me. I can't think of any Western European country where someone who believed in creationism could have a serious shot at the top job.

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wow, turkey came in first and we came in second? i never would've believed so many turkiyeanians would believe in evolution! oh, wait.

"heevahava"!!

It's guys like Huckabee that make America seem so foreign to me. I can't think of any Western European country where someone who believed in creationism could have a serious shot at the top job.

-- Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:12 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

yeah imagine a post-darwin western european country voting in someone with crackpot views.

No doubt plenty of Western European leaders have crackpot views, but openly believing in creationism is something else. It's like believing the world is flat or something. Can you seriously imagine David Cameron coming out as a creationist while campaigning to lead the Tories? It would have been the death of his political career right there.

tony blairs said it was legit to teach creationism 'alongside' evolution.

Tony Blair tended to keep quiet about his Christian beliefs. It was a negative rather than a positive for him. A. Campbell: "We don't do God".

hes more 'likeable' than ghouliani or romney. not that i agree with anything he stands for. and he sometimes has good answers in the debates for example he said jesus was too smart to run for political office. i agree - jesus was smart. unfortunately it was just a quip and he is gonna do what jesus wouldn't do.

ie run for political office.

also classic for making the republican race more of a clusterfuck free for all.

He pardoned Keith Richards for some weapons offense he had in the '70s. Other than that, about as dud as you can get. We've had 8 years of a social conservative, fiscally liberal president, let's call it quits.

"fiscally liberal" huh?

Religious wack job:

Huckabee: U.S. gave up on religion
School shootings were wake-up call, he says
LINDA S. CAILLOUET
ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE

SALT LAKE CITY -- Government may have dropped the ball in modern American society,
but religion dropped it first, Gov. Mike Huckabee told Southern Baptist pastors
Sunday night.
"The reason we have so much government is because we have so much broken
humanity," he said. "And the reason we have so much broken humanity is
because sin reigns in the hearts and lives of human beings instead of the Savior."
Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, addressed his contemporaries
at the two-day Pastors' Conference, which continues today. The three-day Southern
Baptist Convention begins Tuesday here in the heartland of the Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter-day Saints and the city in which the Mormons have their world headquarters.
Huckabee told the pastors gathered in the Salt Palace Convention Center that
while the March 1, 1997, tornadoes which struck Arkansas were tragic, at least the
devastation could be clearly seen from a helicopter. In contrast, he said, the catalysts
for the nation's recent school shootings -- including the one March 24 near
Jonesboro that left four students and a teacher dead and 10 others wounded -- were
harder to see but were driven by "the winds of spiritual change in a nation
that has forgotten its God."
"Government knows it does not have the answer, but it's arrogant and
acts as though it does," Huckabee said. "Church does have the answer but
will cowardly deny that it does and wonder when the world will be changed."
The shootings were just one more wake-up call to the nation, he said.
"I fear we will turn and hit the snooze button one more time and lose this
great republic of ours."
Huckabee said ungiving individuals are responsible for higher taxes.
"I'm often asked why taxes are so high and government is so big. It's
because the faith we have in local churches has become so small. If we'd been
doing what we should have -- giving a dime from every dollar to help the widows,
the orphans and the poor -- we now wouldn't be giving nearly 50 cents of every
dollar to a government that's doing ... what we should have been doing all along."
Huckabee also explained why he left pastoring for politics.
"I didn't get into politics because I thought government had a better
answer. I got into politics because I knew government didn't have the real answers,
that the real answers lie in accepting Jesus Christ into our lives."
He compared his entry into politics to "getting inside the dragon's
belly," adding, "There's not one thing we can do in those marbled
halls and domed capitols that can equal what's done when Jesus touches the lives
of a sinner."
The most basic unit of government is not the city council, quorum court or state
legislature, Huckabee said. "It is Mom and Dad raising kids and teaching them
respect for authority, others and God."
The nation has descended gradually into crisis, Huckabee said, and repairing
the damage needs to be gradual, too. He said the solution is simple: faith in Christ.
Huckabee recalled the five occasions he's had to sit by the phone on the
eve of an execution.
"It's the greatest sense of helplessness and despair you can imagine
to know we've exhausted all help and hope here on earth for that person."
He also spoke of his early misconceptions of his duties as a pastor.
"In one of the first churches I was assigned to, I thought I was supposed
to be the captain of a warship leading the congregation into a battle against spiritual
darkness," he said.
"But they wanted the captain of the Love Boat. They just wanted everybody
to be happy. It was not about how many people were won to Christ or how many teens
were pulled away from drugs or how many marriages were saved. Instead, it was about
the seniors having a great trip going to watch the fall leaves change, the teen-agers
going to a better summer camp than the church across town."
Huckabee concluded his speech by recalling his 10th birthday, when he accepted
Christ.
"I went to Vacation Bible School for all the wrong reasons -- I was told
they'd give me all the cookies I could eat and all the Kool-Aid I could drink.
But that day I got something better than cookies and Kool-Aid. I got the Savior.
"I hope we answer the alarm clock and take this nation back for Christ."
Before Huckabee spoke, more than 350 copies of his new book, Kids Who Kill:
Confronting our Culture of Violence, had been placed in reporters' press boxes
in the convention center press room.
The slick cover of the book is a grim one -- a black-and-white, blurry photograph
of a young boy pointing a gun at the reader. The most prominent part of the photograph
is the round barrel of the gun. At the top of the book, this question is posed:
"Are we reaping what we've sown?"
The book was co-written by Dr. George Grant, director of the King's Meadow
Study Center and a contributor to World magazine.
The back cover states: "No more hand-wringing, no more finger-pointing.
No more sound bites." It also makes a reference to the Jonesboro school shootings.
Huckabee has recently been criticized by opponents claiming he has capitalized on
the shootings with the publication of his book.
The back cover states: "Just after lunch on March 24, 1998, four school
children and a teacher were murdered by two students, ages thirteen and eleven,
at an Arkansas middle school. Governor Mike Huckabee was informed of the tragedy
en route from Washington, D.C. By the time he arrived, the news media were already
waiting -- already polling the pundits and drawing conclusions based on the sketchiest
information. The quest for quick answers has robbed us of the truth. Until now."
The paperback is published by Broadman & Holman, a Nashville, Tenn., arm
of the Baptist Sunday School Board. It retails for $11.99. Publicists for the book
said last week they didn't expect it to arrive at the convention until today.
Huckabee and his wife, Janet, left Salt Lake City immediately after his speech,
and the governor did not hold a book signing at the convention. In fact, Huckabee
didn't know the books had made it to the convention, said editors of the biweekly
Arkansas Baptist Newsmagazine who visited with the governor shortly before his speech.
Huckabee, governor since 1996, is a former president of the Arkansas Baptist
Convention. He has authored one other book, Character is the Issue: How People with
Integrity Can Revolutionize America, which was first publicly announced at the 1997
Southern Baptist Convention in Dallas a year ago and released last September.
Other books given to reporters at the convention Sunday included a how-to boycott
book aimed at the Walt Disney Co. by Richard D. Land titled Sending a Message to
Mickey: The ABC's of Making Your Voice Heard at Disney. The back cover features
an outline of the famous mouse's round ears and the words: "He who has
ears, let him hear."
The other book was Mormonism Unmasked by R. Philip Roberts, who examines the
beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

This article was published on Monday, June 8, 1998

+=Not retarded like Bush.
-=Fuckin' nuts.

ugh i would never vote for a bassist

"fiscally liberal" huh?

Yes, our deficit and overall spending have gone through the roof under Bush, compared to Clinton who somehow got us a surplus and balanced budgets, despite unreal Congressionial opposition.

I've met the guy several times, and he's very affable. I understood the Rolling Stone writer who drove off with a Huckabee-induced feeling of euphoria before getting down the interstate and going, "Wait a minute!" The dude certainly shares a lot of political qualities with the other guy from Hope, Ark.

He did some reasonably good things in my homestate, though I never voted for him. We've got a statewide children's health insurance program that he helped get off the ground, something that my little impoverished state needed. Our highways are in much better shape now, thanks to a package he pushed along. Our taxes went up to pay for these things that we needed, but to be honest, our taxes are still crazy-low.

He never pushed the evolution angle into law or anything. Arkansas has had to endure what Kansas went through with that issue. He marched in the annual "pro-life" parade each year and appointed a guy to head the state health department who believed that fear prevented pregnancies during a rape (that guy, by the way, eventually died when his barn collapsed on top of him.)

The major issue I have with the guy is the Wayne DuMond thing. You can read about it elsewhere, but don't buy the line that it was Clinton and Tucker appointees who made the decision. Huckabee lobbied for DuMond's release almost like he lobbied for the highway taxes. He pressured the commission to release him, and when you're dealing with the guy who makes reappointments to the commission, you do what you're told.

I'll tell you this: What you see of Huckabee is what you get. From what I've seen (he used to come up to the radio station on a regular basis), there is no "political mask" that he wears. I'm not exactly saying it's a good thing that this is the case.

(Arkansas hasn't had to endure...)

Actually it is a good thing, just because you get what you vote for, unlike George "I'm not into nation building" Bush, or guys like Giuiliani and Romney who are taking totally opposite positions from what they had in their previous offices. I would never vote for Huckabee though.

like PP, i lived through his governorship here in arkansas and never voted for him. lots and lots of problems with this guy. he is a wackjob. but when he's not talking about faith and evolution and things like that, he's likeable. which is the scary part. it's too bad imus ruined himself. imus loves him some mike huckabee. at least he's got chuck norris on his side. anyone see that campaign ad? wow.

huckabee's band is called capital offense.

One of my first experiences at the station was when Imus did his show from the governor's mansion, and had interviewed Huckabee three feet in front of me.

It was like watching a bug talk to a slug. Huckabee was a big fat guy, you don't even know.

I guess I meant is that just because what you see is what you get, and he's not holding back or hiding anything, you still probably don't want to vote for the guy.

I took that to be what you meant, Plains, and I appreciated your take on him, as an Arkansan (is that a correct term?).

Sometimes I think if we were going to get saddled with another 4 years of GOP, I would rather it be this guy than those other assholes - for some of the same reasons PP listed...

but then there's the whole willful schmuckery via his 'faith' thing, and I just get really depressed.

On balance, I'm afraid a big D.

Frankly I've gotten to the point where the moment "The Lord" is invoked,
I run screaming in the other direction.

The AIDS thing is actually a pretty good metaphor for the guy's general psycho-creepiness: it's 1992 and a Senate candidate is supporting quarantining AIDS patients and their "plague" from the rest of the population. We can all wish for straight-shooting politicians who are honest and unafraid to say what they think, but here is one very good that does not happen: because in fact we would prefer politicians who are at least conscious enough not to think total crazypants batshit and not realize it.

as an Arkansan (is that a correct term?).

Unfortunately, yes.

Pigfuckers

More reasons not to heart Huckabee.

Huckabee rides FairTax plan

By Jonathan Weisman

The Washington Post

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Republican presidential hopeful and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee campaigns in Pella, Iowa, on Friday. He says the so-called FairTax would send the economy into overdrive.

WASHINGTON — To former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, supporting a national retail-sales tax is more than a policy proposal. It has provided much-needed muscle for his campaign, filling rallies and events with fervent supporters hoping to replace the entire income- and payroll-tax system.

There's one problem: A national sales tax won't work, at least not according to tax experts and economists of all political stripes. Even President Bush's Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform dedicated a chapter of its 2005 final report to dismissing such proposals.

"After careful evaluation, the panel decided to reject a complete replacement of the federal income-tax system with a retail-sales tax," the panel said. It concluded that such a move would shift the tax burden from the rich to the poor or create the largest entitlement program in history to mitigate that new burden.

Under the proposal, known to supporters as the FairTax, the Internal Revenue Service and the entire income- and payroll-tax system would be abolished. Americans would then pay a sales tax on virtually everything: a new home, yard work, food, health care. Only education would be broadly exempted.

FairTax advocates say a 23 percent tax rate would maintain the same amount of money flowing into the Treasury, though that number is debatable. An item priced at $1 would cost consumers 30 percent more, or $1.30. FairTax advocates say that amounts to a 23 percent rate, because 30 cents is 23 percent of the product's after-tax cost of $1.30.

To offset the burden on the poor, the FairTax system would send monthly checks to everyone in the United States, compensating for taxes paid up to the poverty level and ensuring that some minimum standard of living would go untaxed.

The president's tax-overhaul panel, in its final report, said such a program would cost $600 billion to $780 billion a year, making "most American families dependent on monthly checks from the government for a substantial portion of their income."

But the biggest criticism is that the tax cannot be administered. Many economists said a black market would develop overnight, especially in the service sector.

"Under the FairTax, every time you purchase a service, you would probably get two prices: one you can pay with a check or credit card that includes the FairTax and one you can pay in cash and save 23 percent," conservative economist Bruce Bartlett wrote this week in the publication Tax Notes. "Because there would no longer be any audits of income, since the IRS would have been abolished ... massive evasion is inevitable."

At the same time, federal spending would shoot up because the government would have to pay sales taxes on purchases. To compensate, the sales-tax rate would have to rise to more than 40 percent for the government to take inasmuch as it does now, said William Gale, a tax economist at the Brookings Institution. State and local governments, facing a new burden on purchases, also would have to increase taxes to maintain current levels.

To Huckabee, there seems to be no downside to a national sales tax. By eliminating federal income and payroll taxes, businesses would save considerable sums and pass on the savings. He says the FairTax would lower the cost of retail goods, make U.S. companies more competitive internationally, send the economy into overdrive and encourage thrift, since the national sales tax would apply only to new goods.

"Am I running for president to shut down the federal government? Not exactly," Huckabee says on his Web site. "But I am running to completely eliminate all federal income and payroll taxes. And I do mean all — personal federal, corporate federal, gift, estate, capital gains, alternative minimum, Social Security, Medicare, self-employment. ... Instead we will have the FairTax, a simple tax based on wealth."

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Besides Huckabee, Republicans Ron Paul, Alan Keyes and Duncan Hunter and Democrat Mike Gravel support the national retail-sales tax.

Once an advocate of a single, "flat" income-tax rate, Huckabee was converted by FairTax advocates who peppered town-hall meetings while he was governor. Now, supporters of the tax pack his events. A May rally in Columbia, S.C., attracted about 10,000 FairTaxers, who cheered rapturously when Huckabee said: "I realize that the FairTax organization does not endorse candidates, but let me be very clear: I endorse you."

Nonetheless, the tax's detractors are legion. In Tax Notes, Bartlett spent 15 pages attacking the proposal and its advocates, whom he accuses of being ignorant or dishonest.

Alvin Rabushka, the father of the flat tax and a senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution, said anyone claiming to be an independent businessman or contractor would label every purchase as a wholesale transaction or business necessity, because business-to-business purchases would not be subject to the tax.

Charmaine Yoest, a Huckabee spokeswoman, said all tax systems have their flaws, and Huckabee would address issues of compliance as president.

Advocates of the tax see sour grapes in criticism of the system. Ken Hoagland, a spokesman for Americans for Fair Taxation, said Bush's tax panel was headed by tax lobbyists intent on maintaining the current system and their livelihoods.

though this has been clear from the beginning, it's this quote that finalized my opinion of huckabee as a homophobic, evangelical nut:

"I feel homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk."

and for the record, Giuliani has said similar things. though his asshattery is well-known here.

Explaining statements he made suggesting that the instability in Pakistan should remind Americans to tighten security on the southern border of the United States, Mr. Huckabee said Friday that “we have more Pakistani illegals coming across our border than all other nationalities, except those immediately south of the border.”

Oh, whups. Sorry.

is it wrong to assume that Huck's voters won't be swayed by inconvenient things like facts and reality?

this is the best part:

FairTax advocates say a 23 percent tax rate would maintain the same amount of money flowing into the Treasury, though that number is debatable. An item priced at $1 would cost consumers 30 percent more, or $1.30. FairTax advocates say that amounts to a 23 percent rate, because 30 cents is 23 percent of the product's after-tax cost of $1.30.

me fail maths? that's <> unpossible!

is it wrong to assume that Huck's voters won't be swayed by inconvenient things like facts and reality?

Yeah, I think it's wrong to assume that. Huckabee's rise will probably pop because of withering attacks by the GOP establishment (such as it is) that doesn't really want a populist evangelical as their nominee.

Without those withering attacks, tho, I doubt Huckabee's core voters would be dissuaded by facts and reality (the attacks may not matter to his core voters, anyway, but they may prompt other GOP voters to flock to a single alternative candidate).

Huckabee scares me, man. He scares me because I am fundamentally opposed and in some cases offended by many things that he has said and I still like him. I would never vote for him, though, but I can see why many would. And that scares me, man.

the teeth omg

I like this dude! but yes I wd fear hard his court appointees.

he is a competent bassist and has the POWER of RHETORIC by GOD but he is also a SCARY SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE - what to do? hope he gets the nom and then vote dem as usual. still my fave republican in decades, probably because he's throwing a wrench into the neo-rove caboonacamoggle in the way that only a vat-bred southern strategy side effect can

This guy is actually the person that people say GWB is (ie, incredibly likeable dude with completely abhorrent policy ideas).

HI DERE OTM. He'd make a great drinking buddy.

He's that guy you sort of like but who emits a low background hum of always being about to say something vaguely racist and then expect you to laugh along at it.

i.e. half my high school friends

"REM singer charmed by Huckabee"

B-b-b-b but he likes boys. And Huckabee hates the gays. I don't think this one's gonna work.

Funny how these "drinkin' buddy" analogies always apply to teetotalers.

typical Stipe coherence

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/19/175629/012/188/439174

DA HUCK has connections to some really, really, really dubious religious organizations. "handmaid's tale" types. kill all gays, non-christians and disobedient children types. "people in positions of authority should be obeyed as you would obey jesus christ" types. guys that are just one god away from being taliban.

long article, recommend reading it all if you're not familiar with bill gothard and his insane, practically scientological variant of christianity.

I'll read it. More generally, and based solely on what I'd hoped Huckabee would do to the GOP: After Iowa -- Classic; After South Carolina -- Semi-Dud.

This guy is actually the person that people say GWB is (ie, incredibly likeable dude with completely abhorrent policy ideas).

unless you were a country club republican who thot that GWB was really actually a fiscally conservative, eastern elite, super-sharp CEO. In which case, Mitt Romney is GWB.

unless you were a militaristic nonconformist who believed that GWB was really an asskicking devil-may-care hardass, in which case John McCain is GWB.

unless you want stern daddy etc etc Fred Thompson

unless you...

you seem to have missed the point of dan's post

did yall here how one of his campaign advisors suggested we put a cop in front of every mosque in the us?

That was Jim Pinkerton. It was a sobering, frightening moment. My impression of Pinkerton as a right-of-center thinker with reasonable ideas was far off the mark, apparently.

basically it's starting to look like he and hs advisors are dropping ugly little hints to the absolute worst segment of the fundie set. and that "aw shucks" thing after the "amend the constitution for jesus" remark was probably his big, coded "get out the vote" moment. great.

i really, really wish this guy wasn't "likable" to so many people.

Wait, you thought Pinkerton was reasonable? Are you nuts?

xp: well, that second sentence could use some editing:

and that "aw shucks" thing aside, the "amend the constitution for jesus" remark was probably his big, coded "get out the vote" moment.

There’s a Huckabee Born Every Minute
by Ann Coulter

Despite the overwhelming popular demand for another column on Ron Radosh's review of Stan Evans' book, this week's column will address the urgent matter of evangelical Christians getting blamed for Mike Huckabee.

To paraphrase the Jews, this is "bad for the evangelicals."

As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee. Liberals adore Huckabee because he fits their image of what an evangelical should be: stupid and easily led.

The media are transfixed by the fact that Huckabee says he doesn't believe in evolution. Neither do I, for reasons detailed in approximately one-third of my No. 1 New York Times
best-selling book, Godless: The Church of Liberalism.

I went on a massive book tour for Godless just last year, including a boffo opening interview with Matt Lauer on NBC's "Today," a one-on-one, full-hour interview with Chris Matthews on "Hardball," and various other hostile interviews from the organs of establishmentarian opinion.

But I didn't get a single question from them on the topic of one-third of my book.

If the mainstream media are burning with curiosity about what critics of Darwinism have to say, how about asking me? I can name any number of mathematicians, scientists and authors who have also rejected Darwin's discredited theory and would be happy to rap with them about it.

But they won't ask us, because, unlike the cornpone, we won't immediately collapse under gentle questioning. It's one thing to be "easily led" by the pope. Huckabee is easily led by Larry King.

Asked on CNN's "Larry King Live" Monday night about his beliefs on evolution, Huckabee rushed to assure King that he has no interest in altering textbooks that foist this fraud on innocent schoolchildren.

I don't understand that. Does Huckabee believe Darwinism is a hoax or not? If he knows it's a fraud, then why does he want it taught to schoolchildren? What other discredited mystery religions -- as mathematician David Berlinski calls Darwinism -- does Huckabee want to teach children? Sorcery? Phrenology? Alchemy?

Admittedly, the truth about Darwinism would be jarring in textbooks that promote other frauds and hoaxes, such as "man-made global warming." Why confuse the little tykes with fact-based textbooks?

Huckabee immediately dropped his alleged skepticism of Darwinism and turned to his main goal as president of the United States: teaching children more art and music. This, he said, was his "passion" because "I think our education system is failing kids because we're not touching the right side of the brain -- the creative side. We are focusing on the left side."

I think I know someone who has just read an article in Reader's Digest about left brain/right brain differences!

When not evolving his position on Darwinism, Huckabee insults gays by pointlessly citing the Bible's rather pointed remarks about sodomy -- fitting the MSM's image of evangelicals sitting around all day denouncing gays. (Which is just so unfair. I'm usually done denouncing gays by 10:30 a.m., 11 tops.) And yet, Huckabee has said he agrees with the Supreme Court's lunatic opinion that sodomy is a constitutional right.

In the 2003 decision Lawrence v. Texas, the Supreme Court overruled Bowers v. Hardwick, a case only 17 years old (and with a name chosen by God) -- despite the allegedly hallowed principle of "stare decisis." As explained in "Godless," stare decisis means: "What's mine is mine and what's yours is negotiable."

Justice Anthony Kennedy's majority opinion in Lawrence was so insane that the lower courts completely ignored it. Since then, courts have disregarded Lawrence in order to uphold state laws banning the sale of vibrators, restricting gays' rights to adopt, prohibiting people from having sex with their adult ex-stepchildren, and various other basic human rights specifically mentioned in our Constitution.

Lawrence was promptly denounced not only by Republican governors and Christian groups across the nation, but also by anyone with sufficient reading comprehension skills to see that the Constitution says nothing about a right to sodomy. But when Huckabee was asked about this jaw-dropping ruling from the high court, he said the majority opinion "probably was appropriate."

He made these remarks on his monthly radio show, "Ask the Governor," as was widely reported at the time, including a July 3, 2003, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette article titled, "Huckabee Says Sex Lives of Adults Not State Affair." I stress that "Ask the Governor" was not a wacky, comedy-based, morning zoo-type radio program. It was supposed to be serious.

Employing the ACLU's "any law I don't like is unconstitutional" test, Huckabee said he supported the court's decision because a law "that prohibited private behavior among adults" would be difficult to enforce. Next he'll be telling us which of the Ten Commandments he considers "nonstarters."

How about adults who privately operate meth labs? How about a private contract between an employer and employee for a salary less than the minimum wage?

Hey! How about adults privately smoking cigarettes in their homes? Nope, Huckabee wants a federal law banning smoking but thinks state laws banning sodomy are "probably" unconstitutional.

Justice Antonin Scalia wrote a spirited dissent in Lawrence, joined by Justices William Rehnquist and Clarence Thomas, raising the somewhat embarrassing point that homosexual sodomy is not technically mentioned in the Constitution. Otherwise, our Founding Fathers would have been our "Founding Life Partners."

Scalia said that inasmuch as the Texas law furthered "the same interest furthered by criminal laws against fornication, bigamy, adultery, adult incest, bestiality and obscenity," the court's ruling placed all these laws in jeopardy.

Most important, Scalia said: "Today's opinion dismantles the structure of constitutional law that has permitted a distinction to be made between heterosexual and homosexual unions." At least no court has tried to legalize gay marriage since that 2003 ruling, so we can be grateful for -- Hey, wait a minute!

Huckabee claims he opposes gay marriage and says Scalia is his favorite justice, but he supports a Supreme Court decision denounced by Scalia for paving the way to a "constitutional right" to gay marriage. I guess Huckabee is one of those pro-sodomy, pro-gay marriage, pro-evolution evangelical Christians.

No wonder Huckabee is the evangelical liberals like.

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As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee.As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee.As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee.As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee.As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee.As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee.As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee.As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee.As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee.As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee.As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee.As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee.As far as I can tell, it's mostly secular liberals swooning over Huckabee.

Asked on CNN's "Larry King Live" Monday night about his beliefs on evolution, Huckabee rushed to assure King that he has no interest in altering textbooks that foist this fraud on innocent schoolchildren.

I don't understand that. Does Huckabee believe Darwinism is a hoax or not? If he knows it's a fraud, then why does he want it taught to schoolchildren? What other discredited mystery religions -- as mathematician David Berlinski calls Darwinism -- does Huckabee want to teach children? Sorcery? Phrenology? Alchemy?

apparently coulter has no idea that some elementary school children are assigned harry potter as reading

David Berlinski's Wikipedia page contains this gem:

In a 2006 DVD, Berlinski made the statement:[10]

The interesting argument about the whale, which is a mammal after all, is that if its origins where(sic) land-based originally…what do you have to do from an engineering point of view to change a cow into a whale?...Virtually every feature of the cow has to change, has to be adapted.

As a number of biologists have pointed out, whales evolved, not from cattle, but from pakicetids, hoofed carnivores.[11][12]

Wait, you thought Pinkerton was reasonable? Are you nuts?

Not nuts; misinformed.

Well, maybe nuts.

So now we're copying and pasting entire Ann Coulter columns.

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a collection of unfortunate haircuts

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I'm almost tempted to request this thread be retitled "Mike Huckabee Is Having Fun".

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Likely not in JAKE tuning either.

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Snorgabee

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"See here, and you're really going to think this is kinda funny, but I'm actually Jewish."

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"And definitely not a Mormon."

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